Stefano Bras Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Nice opinion you've got there Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Certified Nimrod Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 People thought that the bar of triplets in the last chorus of Church On Sunday was the CD skipping. As you'd know if you'd read any of the posts I was responding to. I know what you were responding to, I just don't understand all that technical talk. I read everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoopy Doo Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I listened to The Forgotten again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaïs. Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 That is a fact, not an opinion (who'd have thought those words would ever be said in this thread?) But why the face???? Oh, you know very well why, you fangirl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlissaGoesRAWR Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Oh, you know very well why, you fangirl. Kay is not a fangirl. She insulted hobo Billie, remember? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 How they play Church On Sunday live just bothers me so much that I refuse to acknowledge that they've played it. Way way too fast. Spoils a great song. ia, and I feel the same about Waiting. Much as I'd love to hear it live, I know it won't be the same as the CD version, which I love because it's at the perfect tempo IMO. I don't even think it's the lyrics that are the problem. If ever a song needed to be about 100bpm faster to make sense it's that one. It just feels so weird and lethargic, listening to it feels like wading through treacle. Funny, that's the description I'd use for Little Boy Named Train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Haze Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 out of all the shit songs on the trilogy i still don't see why people hate wild one so much It's to slow and boring and sluggish. The list goes on. It does have a nice guitar solo though :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I tried to summarize around 70% of this thread into a single picture: (The pic's a meme that made the rounds in Japanese twitter a while back) You have succeeded. I think I'd place the figure closer to 90% though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Z J Posted April 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2014 Demolicious is excellent so far. 99 Rev Demo>>>Original Angel Blue Demo>>>Original (by a shit ton) Carpe Diem Demo>>>Original State of Shock is better than half the songs on the trilogy already. And Let Yourself Go is better as well. This is the live studio sound they needed. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted April 13, 2014 Author Share Posted April 13, 2014 Demolicious is excellent so far. 99 Rev Demo>>>Original Angel Blue Demo>>>Original (by a shit ton) Carpe Diem Demo>>>Original State of Shock is better than half the songs on the trilogy already. And Let Yourself Go is better as well. This is the live studio sound they needed. Yep. They should have just released this in the first place. Nuclear Family Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxymore Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 State of Shock is ok. Catchy, but not great. I think I enjoyed it just because it was new.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonflower93 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 meh, Demolicious is a 6.5 in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlissaGoesRAWR Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 A polished version of State of Shock might have been nice... The lyrical delivery is just bad on the demo, imo. I dunno if it's unpopular or not, but I really like acoustic STN. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z J Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 A polished version of State of Shock might have been nice... The lyrical delivery is just bad on the demo, imo. I dunno if it's unpopular or not, but I really like acoustic STN. I do like the acoustic version I also wish Billie had taken more vocal liberties. Would've been nice to hear more. And as I said over in the other thread, State of Shock's hook/chorus melodies are catchier than just about anything on the trilogy, but yes the lyrics were a bit awkward. Not so much in content but more in timing perhaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PleasedToMeetMe Posted April 14, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2014 The next album needs to have that raw, live sound. Just let the band do their thing, don't overproduce the fuck out of it. Also, no vocal filters. I think Green Day has the ability to make a great album without an outside producer. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spike Posted April 14, 2014 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2014 I used to think that Billie sounded better with vocal filters, but after hearing Demolicious.... nawwww son, he sounds fine the way he is. I'd definitely like to hear more of that. Also fuck the fact that Mike didn't get to actually do backing vocals on the Trilogy. "Hey guys, let's make a live-sounding album." "Sounds good." "Okay. So let's not allow the band's esteemed backing vocalist to do any backing vocals, and just have the same person dub them over. That sounds natural." 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I used to think that Billie sounded better with vocal filters, but after hearing Demolicious.... nawwww son, he sounds fine the way he is. I'd definitely like to hear more of that. Also fuck the fact that Mike didn't get to actually do backing vocals on the Trilogy. The filters Billie uses is fine per se as it worked very well on AI and 21st but it ruined the trilogy if Billie really thinks he needs it they should have lowered the settings on the filters to match the sounds It's like the took the guitar settings for AI/21st and lowered them but kept the vocal filter at the same settings and that just doesn't work and Billie was either too loaded to hear what was wrong with it or Rob just doesn't have a backbone when it comes to GD and just says yes it sounds great Billie which is what I'm leaning towards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 It's like the took the guitar settings for AI/21st and lowered them but kept the vocal filter at the same settings and that just doesn't work and Billie was either too loaded to hear what was wrong with it or Rob just doesn't have a backbone when it comes to GD and just says yes it sounds great Billie which is what I'm leaning towards How do you know it's Billie who wanted it that way and not Rob or both of them? Do we have any info that indicates Billie likes songs to sound that way and Rob doesn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE THE X-KID Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Conspiracy: Rob Cavallo hates Green Day and set out to saboatage their career, by overproducing the fuck out of the trilogy and sucking the life out of it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted April 14, 2014 Author Share Posted April 14, 2014 Conspiracy: Rob Cavallo hates Green Day and set out to saboatage their career, by overproducing the fuck out of the trilogy and sucking the life out of it. Yep. As revenge for not working on Breakdown which turned out to be their best produced album by far. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 How do you know it's Billie who wanted it that way and not Rob or both of them? Do we have any info that indicates Billie likes songs to sound that way and Rob doesn't? Well there is that quote from Billie saying he likes using the vocal filter There also the other rock albums Rob produced that year having no vocal filters like Shinedown or Goo Goo Dolls... And I wasn't saying it as a fact... In Cuatro they said they wanted a clean tone and that's cool I like clean tone albums but for some songs on the trilogy weren't meant for that sound and a producer should have addressed that and a producer would have addressed the filter as well I am a big fan of the trilogy so I'm not bashing it but the production was lacking Conspiracy: Rob Cavallo hates Green Day and set out to saboatage their career, by overproducing the fuck out of the trilogy and sucking the life out of it. In actuality the trilogy isn't over produced from a production standpoint Dookie is overproduced more than the trilogy but the vocal filters does make it sound like it was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE THE X-KID Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Well there is that quote from Billie saying he likes using the vocal filter There also the other rock albums Rob produced that year having no vocal filters like Shinedown or Goo Goo Dolls... And I wasn't saying it as a fact... In Cuatro they said they wanted a clean tone and that's cool I like clean tone albums but for some songs on the trilogy weren't meant for that sound and a producer should have addressed that and a producer would have addressed the filter as well I am a big fan of the trilogy so I'm not bashing it but the production was lacking In actuality the trilogy isn't over produced from a production standpoint Dookie is overproduced more than the trilogy but the vocal filters does make it sound like it was well there's less guitar layers but Dookies rawer than the trilogy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
localinsomniac Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 What makes Dookie "raw"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Using a distortion pedal = / = raw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE THE X-KID Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 What makes Dookie "raw"? not raw but I...dunno, whatever. The vocals aren't as polished Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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