Random Green Day Thoughts

[Guest]

I've been complaining for like a week because I had 3 tickets but I had to throw away 2 because of Covid. 
It was pointed out to me that at least Green Day I saw them in Copenhagen, by the way from the front row, and not everyone maybe has a chance to pick up and go abroad. 
Rightly it was also pointed out to me that these behaviors are childish and ungrateful.
but I'm like "I don't have any other dates scheduled now, when do I see these guys again?" 
 

I feel so fckng stupid. 

 

[jengd]

12 hours ago, ilaria idiot said:

I've been complaining for like a week because I had 3 tickets but I had to throw away 2 because of Covid. 
It was pointed out to me that at least Green Day I saw them in Copenhagen, by the way from the front row, and not everyone maybe has a chance to pick up and go abroad. 
Rightly it was also pointed out to me that these behaviors are childish and ungrateful.
but I'm like "I don't have any other dates scheduled now, when do I see these guys again?" 
 

I feel so fckng stupid. 

 

Hey, yes you got to some shows but it’s still reasonable to be disappointed that all your careful planning fell apart.  Is it the worst thing in the world, no and others are suffering worse but it doesn’t make you bad for feeling how you do.  I saw GD in London for RevRad and for first time ever was going to see them twice, shortly after in Glasgow but Glasgow was cancelled and Glasgow was gutted.  I get how you feel.

[Guest]

26 minutes ago, jengd said:

Hey, yes you got to some shows but it’s still reasonable to be disappointed that all your careful planning fell apart.  Is it the worst thing in the world, no and others are suffering worse but it doesn’t make you bad for feeling how you do.  I saw GD in London for RevRad and for first time ever was going to see them twice, shortly after in Glasgow but Glasgow was cancelled and Glasgow was gutted.  I get how you feel.

Right? Because I fully understand those who tell me that I should be grateful, especially because I had the opportunity to travel abroad.
If it wasn't for Green Day, I don't think I would have ever gone to Copenhagen. (I never considered it as a tourist destination but now I kind of want to spend a month there ahaha) 

On the other hand though, I say, that sucks! For once I had 3 tickets in my hand, I only used 1. 
Because in the end, after a year of an underpaid job where I was also mobbed, I had told myself "You deserve some fun." 
So it is not a matter of being ungrateful. I guess. 
By the way, I'm so pissed off at the world that I can't even say, "What a great concert in Denmark, though!" 
That is, it's like right now I only see the negative side of it. 

[Beerjeezus]

Ever since the show I saw I’ve been super happy they still got it and also obsessed with whatever routine Billie has to keep in shape… I need to do whatever he does. 

[jengd]

Came across this,  it’s clearly fiction but the blurb says his stories are based around his time on the road,  I would love to know if there is any basis to this. 
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/billie-joe-armstrong-and-the-boulevard-of-broken-dreams/

[pacejunkie punk]

4 hours ago, jengd said:

Came across this,  it’s clearly fiction but the blurb says his stories are based around his time on the road,  I would love to know if there is any basis to this. 
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/billie-joe-armstrong-and-the-boulevard-of-broken-dreams/

At first I was afraid it was going to be a terrible story, judging from the title, but that sounds just like the stories we know so I would say yeah, very believable. Go ahead and meet your hero, as long as its Billie Joe 🥰

[jengd]

1 hour ago, pacejunkie punk said:

At first I was afraid it was going to be a terrible story, judging from the title, but that sounds just like the stories we know so I would say yeah, very believable. Go ahead and meet your hero, as long as its Billie Joe 🥰

That’s exactly what I thought, it’s what people say and I didn’t expect it to be what it is.  Don’t think it’s a brilliant piece of writing mind.

[Beerjeezus]

I was so afraid this was going to be something awful, but the story was so mundane.

[Zebahar]

I kinda wonder if they guys are getting sick of playing the same songs every show for the past 10+ years it seems like. The last time we got any significant variability in songs was during the trilogy era right?

I'm not sure if just the guys make the setlist or if there is some other intervention, but I get sick of listening to the same song over and over, I can't imagine its much better having to play it over and over.

[Rumpelstiltskin2000]

24 minutes ago, Zebahar said:

I kinda wonder if they guys are getting sick of playing the same songs every show for the past 10+ years it seems like. The last time we got any significant variability in songs was during the trilogy era right?

I'm not sure if just the guys make the setlist or if there is some other intervention, but I get sick of listening to the same song over and over, I can't imagine its much better having to play it over and over.

During the RevRad tour a couple of times Billie did suggest playing something different but Mike wasn't interested. Don't know if that's relevant 

[Zebahar]

4 minutes ago, Rumpelstiltskin2000 said:

During the RevRad tour a couple of times Billie did suggest playing something different but Mike wasn't interested. Don't know if that's relevant 

I do remember that. It could also be something like fatigue or not feeling confident in playing the song well.

I understand audibles can be a little tricky, but it seems like if there are any changes in the setlists, its mainly just removing songs rather than throwing in something new to the mix

[Beerjeezus]

I think a part of it is the ease that comes with having a well rehearsed setlists that they’re confident and comfortable in playing. Also as with any cognitively demanding activities, it’s about how you distribute the capacity and I think Billie will rather put more into the show while playing songs he could play in his sleep than put more effort into playing less rehearsed stuff and have less of a show because he’d have to put more focus into  memory and the performance.

[Zebahar]

I was playing this game called Mario Strikers Charged, and one of the songs I heard when I scored a goal sounded grittier and better than any Green Day songs I have heard in the past few years.

I'm serious, look up some of the music in that game if you are ever bored. None of the songs are necessarily life changing, but they are fun and rocking and I wish Green Day would make songs similar honestly

[Rumpelstiltskin2000]

Green Day was trending on Twitter in the UK after the London show (forgot to take screenshot) 

[That Dude]

Just got a 2021 book called Sellout by Dan Ozzi.  

Green Day are Chapter 1, with a bunch of other great bands as well, like Jimmy Eat World, Blink, Distillers, MCR,  Against Me! and a bunch more.

I am just getting started and there's some great info about Green Day I haven't heard anywhere else.  

[The Grohl]

1 hour ago, That Dude said:

Just got a 2021 book called Sellout by Dan Ozzi.  

Green Day are Chapter 1, with a bunch of other great bands as well, like Jimmy Eat World, Blink, Distillers, MCR,  Against Me! and a bunch more.

I am just getting started and there's some great info about Green Day I haven't heard anywhere else.  

I have this book! I really enjoyed it!

[That Dude]

10 hours ago, The Grohl said:

I have this book! I really enjoyed it!

I'm about to check out all these Lookout bands, even though I know I've done most of them before.  

Corrupted Morals, Sewer Trout. Yeastie Girlz, No Dogs, Christ On Parade. 

Then on the same page, Billie and Mike go to a Van Halen show.   😄 

We really need a Green Day movie, and not one of these glossy biopic films.    Maybe even an indie film to represent their true selves. 

 

[The Grohl]

Currently listening to Popper Punk. Forgot what a banger it is! 

[Beerjeezus]

The way mainstream PR approved biopics are done is so formulaic that they don’t even have to make individual movies, you can watch the ones that already exist and imagine whatever band you want it to be about… I feel like I know exactly how the GD one would look:

1st act:

- Estabilishing the main character, BJA. Childhood scene, his talent is discovered.

- The topic of BJA’s father’s illness is introduced. BJA meets Mike, they start playing together, we want the audience to see that they vibe.

- BJA’s father dies, the boy finds solace in playing music. Eventually, he gets Blue.
 

Fade to black, 10 years later…

2nd act

- We cut directly to Billie playing Blue in a club. We learn that they’re a fairly successful DIY band now, they say no to a record deal. A love interest is introduced, he meets Adrienne after the show.

- They keep touring (a quick montage of other club shows, it ends with them playing 2000 LYA so the audience is reminded that there is a love interest). It’s estabilished that GD is now freakishly popular for a DIY band, but we see they still live in a dingy flat/eat from a dumpster. BJA realizes the band has much larger potential and grows restless with the scene. He advances the plot by signing with Warner. He marries Adrienne because this movie has a romantic storyline. We see the other guys have girlfriends too but this is a Hollywood production that wants to be easy to follow.

- Dookie is out, another montage (this time they’re playing arenas, sometimes naked) we see them doing lines backstage, Woodstock 94 - we see that there’s backlash against them. BJA receives criticism from his mother. The audience sees that deep down he feels hurt and misunderstood, but there’s more touring, more partying, a baby, more touring, more partying, inevitably a fight with the wife.

 

3rd act

- Fight with the wife, dissatisfaction, acoustic guitar, we are in the 00s. The band isn’t doing as well as it used to be. BJA gets dramatic about not wanting to do Warped tour and then agrees to doing it under the weight of arguments about his own lack of success. The audience sees he’s dying inside.

- A studio scene, Cigarettes and Valentines sessions. It’s not going well, the band tells BJA his songs suck, he walks out, gives up, spirals… this era is dated through historical events BJA sees happening & is upset with - first 9/11, later the start of the Iraq war… we see he picks up the guitar again when he comes back home from a shitty night out. The sun is coming out and he’s playing a song the audience recognizes. (It should be Are We The Waiting except this is a wide appeal Hollywood production so the script gets changed by the studio to something more instantly recognizable but less narratively fitting… the AI riff will do).

-  The band makes up, they decide to give it one more try and do their best. Another montage, we see them recording and getting a general makeover. There’s a sense of hope about it all. Finally, the album is done, touching moment, we see they’ve adopted a one for all all for one mentality.

- The big finale, everyone knows AI was a success. We watch the band set off on tour in a reasonably sized venue but there they are with their epic, larger than life show… they’re like this was ok, then it turns out it was more than ok - the final scene is heavily copying BIAB, they’re playing Jesus Of Suburbia in front of a huge audience.

Fade to black… subtitles tell us Green Day became one of the biggest bands in the world and went on to play music for decades after this. Also they all lived happily ever after. Since there was a romantic storyline it has to be mentioned that BJA is still with Adrienne and by the time the movie comes out they have a bunch of grandkids.

[The Grohl]

8 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said:

The way mainstream PR approved biopics are done is so formulaic that they don’t even have to make individual movies, you can watch the ones that already exist and imagine whatever band you want it to be about… I feel like I know exactly how the GD one would look:

1st act:

- Estabilishing the main character, BJA. Childhood scene, his talent is discovered.

- The topic of BJA’s father’s illness is introduced. BJA meets Mike, they start playing together, we want the audience to see that they vibe.

- BJA’s father dies, the boy finds solace in playing music. Eventually, he gets Blue.
 

Fade to black, 10 years later…

2nd act

- We cut directly to Billie playing Blue in a club. We learn that they’re a fairly successful DIY band now, they say no to a record deal. A love interest is introduced, he meets Adrienne after the show.

- They keep touring (a quick montage of other club shows, it ends with them playing 2000 LYA so the audience is reminded that there is a love interest). It’s estabilished that GD is now freakishly popular for a DIY band, but we see they still live in a dingy flat/eat from a dumpster. BJA realizes the band has much larger potential and grows restless with the scene. He advances the plot by signing with Warner. He marries Adrienne because this movie has a romantic storyline. We see the other guys have girlfriends too but this is a Hollywood production that wants to be easy to follow.

- Dookie is out, another montage (this time they’re playing arenas, sometimes naked) we see them doing lines backstage, Woodstock 94 - we see that there’s backlash against them. BJA receives criticism from his mother. The audience sees that deep down he feels hurt and misunderstood, but there’s more touring, more partying, a baby, more touring, more partying, inevitably a fight with the wife.

 

3rd act

- Fight with the wife, dissatisfaction, acoustic guitar, we are in the 00s. The band isn’t doing as well as it used to be. BJA gets dramatic about not wanting to do Warped tour and then agrees to doing it under the weight of arguments about his own lack of success. The audience sees he’s dying inside.

- A studio scene, Cigarettes and Valentines sessions. It’s not going well, the band tells BJA his songs suck, he walks out, gives up, spirals… this era is dated through historical events BJA sees happening & is upset with - first 9/11, later the start of the Iraq war… we see he picks up the guitar again when he comes back home from a shitty night out. The sun is coming out and he’s playing a song the audience recognizes. (It should be Are We The Waiting except this is a wide appeal Hollywood production so the script gets changed by the studio to something more instantly recognizable but less narratively fitting… the AI riff will do).

-  The band makes up, they decide to give it one more try and do their best. Another montage, we see them recording and getting a general makeover. There’s a sense of hope about it all. Finally, the album is done, touching moment, we see they’ve adopted a one for all all for one mentality.

- The big finale, everyone knows AI was a success. We watch the band set off on tour in a reasonably sized venue but there they are with their epic, larger than life show… they’re like this was ok, then it turns out it was more than ok - the final scene is heavily copying BIAB, they’re playing Jesus Of Suburbia in front of a huge audience.

Fade to black… subtitles tell us Green Day became one of the biggest bands in the world and went on to play music for decades after this. Also they all lived happily ever after. Since there was a romantic storyline it has to be mentioned that BJA is still with Adrienne and by the time the movie comes out they have a bunch of grandkids.

[pacejunkie punk]

1 hour ago, Beerjeezus said:

The way mainstream PR approved biopics are done is so formulaic that they don’t even have to make individual movies, you can watch the ones that already exist and imagine whatever band you want it to be about… I feel like I know exactly how the GD one would look:

1st act:

- Estabilishing the main character, BJA. Childhood scene, his talent is discovered.

- The topic of BJA’s father’s illness is introduced. BJA meets Mike, they start playing together, we want the audience to see that they vibe.

- BJA’s father dies, the boy finds solace in playing music. Eventually, he gets Blue.
 

Fade to black, 10 years later…

2nd act

- We cut directly to Billie playing Blue in a club. We learn that they’re a fairly successful DIY band now, they say no to a record deal. A love interest is introduced, he meets Adrienne after the show.

- They keep touring (a quick montage of other club shows, it ends with them playing 2000 LYA so the audience is reminded that there is a love interest). It’s estabilished that GD is now freakishly popular for a DIY band, but we see they still live in a dingy flat/eat from a dumpster. BJA realizes the band has much larger potential and grows restless with the scene. He advances the plot by signing with Warner. He marries Adrienne because this movie has a romantic storyline. We see the other guys have girlfriends too but this is a Hollywood production that wants to be easy to follow.

- Dookie is out, another montage (this time they’re playing arenas, sometimes naked) we see them doing lines backstage, Woodstock 94 - we see that there’s backlash against them. BJA receives criticism from his mother. The audience sees that deep down he feels hurt and misunderstood, but there’s more touring, more partying, a baby, more touring, more partying, inevitably a fight with the wife.

 

3rd act

- Fight with the wife, dissatisfaction, acoustic guitar, we are in the 00s. The band isn’t doing as well as it used to be. BJA gets dramatic about not wanting to do Warped tour and then agrees to doing it under the weight of arguments about his own lack of success. The audience sees he’s dying inside.

- A studio scene, Cigarettes and Valentines sessions. It’s not going well, the band tells BJA his songs suck, he walks out, gives up, spirals… this era is dated through historical events BJA sees happening & is upset with - first 9/11, later the start of the Iraq war… we see he picks up the guitar again when he comes back home from a shitty night out. The sun is coming out and he’s playing a song the audience recognizes. (It should be Are We The Waiting except this is a wide appeal Hollywood production so the script gets changed by the studio to something more instantly recognizable but less narratively fitting… the AI riff will do).

-  The band makes up, they decide to give it one more try and do their best. Another montage, we see them recording and getting a general makeover. There’s a sense of hope about it all. Finally, the album is done, touching moment, we see they’ve adopted a one for all all for one mentality.

- The big finale, everyone knows AI was a success. We watch the band set off on tour in a reasonably sized venue but there they are with their epic, larger than life show… they’re like this was ok, then it turns out it was more than ok - the final scene is heavily copying BIAB, they’re playing Jesus Of Suburbia in front of a huge audience.

Fade to black… subtitles tell us Green Day became one of the biggest bands in the world and went on to play music for decades after this. Also they all lived happily ever after. Since there was a romantic storyline it has to be mentioned that BJA is still with Adrienne and by the time the movie comes out they have a bunch of grandkids.

Can’t imagine they would leave out the most dramatic part - iHeart and rehab. Maybe they’d save that for the sequel? 😂

[Vintage Disciple]

1 hour ago, Beerjeezus said:

The way mainstream PR approved biopics are done is so formulaic that they don’t even have to make individual movies, you can watch the ones that already exist and imagine whatever band you want it to be about… I feel like I know exactly how the GD one would look:

1st act:

- Estabilishing the main character, BJA. Childhood scene, his talent is discovered.

- The topic of BJA’s father’s illness is introduced. BJA meets Mike, they start playing together, we want the audience to see that they vibe.

- BJA’s father dies, the boy finds solace in playing music. Eventually, he gets Blue.
 

Fade to black, 10 years later…

2nd act

- We cut directly to Billie playing Blue in a club. We learn that they’re a fairly successful DIY band now, they say no to a record deal. A love interest is introduced, he meets Adrienne after the show.

- They keep touring (a quick montage of other club shows, it ends with them playing 2000 LYA so the audience is reminded that there is a love interest). It’s estabilished that GD is now freakishly popular for a DIY band, but we see they still live in a dingy flat/eat from a dumpster. BJA realizes the band has much larger potential and grows restless with the scene. He advances the plot by signing with Warner. He marries Adrienne because this movie has a romantic storyline. We see the other guys have girlfriends too but this is a Hollywood production that wants to be easy to follow.

- Dookie is out, another montage (this time they’re playing arenas, sometimes naked) we see them doing lines backstage, Woodstock 94 - we see that there’s backlash against them. BJA receives criticism from his mother. The audience sees that deep down he feels hurt and misunderstood, but there’s more touring, more partying, a baby, more touring, more partying, inevitably a fight with the wife.

 

3rd act

- Fight with the wife, dissatisfaction, acoustic guitar, we are in the 00s. The band isn’t doing as well as it used to be. BJA gets dramatic about not wanting to do Warped tour and then agrees to doing it under the weight of arguments about his own lack of success. The audience sees he’s dying inside.

- A studio scene, Cigarettes and Valentines sessions. It’s not going well, the band tells BJA his songs suck, he walks out, gives up, spirals… this era is dated through historical events BJA sees happening & is upset with - first 9/11, later the start of the Iraq war… we see he picks up the guitar again when he comes back home from a shitty night out. The sun is coming out and he’s playing a song the audience recognizes. (It should be Are We The Waiting except this is a wide appeal Hollywood production so the script gets changed by the studio to something more instantly recognizable but less narratively fitting… the AI riff will do).

-  The band makes up, they decide to give it one more try and do their best. Another montage, we see them recording and getting a general makeover. There’s a sense of hope about it all. Finally, the album is done, touching moment, we see they’ve adopted a one for all all for one mentality.

- The big finale, everyone knows AI was a success. We watch the band set off on tour in a reasonably sized venue but there they are with their epic, larger than life show… they’re like this was ok, then it turns out it was more than ok - the final scene is heavily copying BIAB, they’re playing Jesus Of Suburbia in front of a huge audience.

Fade to black… subtitles tell us Green Day became one of the biggest bands in the world and went on to play music for decades after this. Also they all lived happily ever after. Since there was a romantic storyline it has to be mentioned that BJA is still with Adrienne and by the time the movie comes out they have a bunch of grandkids.

You're hired!

[Beerjeezus]

21 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

Can’t imagine they would leave out the most dramatic part - iHeart and rehab. Maybe they’d save that for the sequel? 😂

 I was thinking really hard about how they would incorporate that into the movie, because the downfall and rehab part is a staple in this kind of biopics and eventually I came to the conclusion that they’d leave it out because these movies work the best if they have a successful grand finale and they get that with the release of AI. That feels like the natural climax. Having that and then continueing the story to the part when the band is slightly behind its peak and Billie’s addiction gets bad and then it gets better and the band goes on to do pretty well is kind of… not enough of a Hollywood ending, you know… plus these movies are PR approved so I would bet the safer “old days” version is the one we’d get. (Even though 2012 is as stereotypically rockstar as he ever got). But yeah, if this was my story not a Hollywood biopic, the grand comeback would be revrad (and a lot of the early days stuff would be skipped. I’d trade the rise to fame story for the rockstar drama).  And it could end with him gently laying the guitar down at iHeart 2019.

[The Grohl]

1 hour ago, Beerjeezus said:

 I was thinking really hard about how they would incorporate that into the movie, because the downfall and rehab part is a staple in this kind of biopics and eventually I came to the conclusion that they’d leave it out because these movies work the best if they have a successful grand finale and they get that with the release of AI. That feels like the natural climax. Having that and then continueing the story to the part when the band is slightly behind its peak and Billie’s addiction gets bad and then it gets better and the band goes on to do pretty well is kind of… not enough of a Hollywood ending, you know… plus these movies are PR approved so I would bet the safer “old days” version is the one we’d get. (Even though 2012 is as stereotypically rockstar as he ever got). But yeah, if this was my story not a Hollywood biopic, the grand comeback would be revrad (and a lot of the early days stuff would be skipped. I’d trade the rise to fame story for the rockstar drama).  And it could end with him gently laying the guitar down at iHeart 2019.

This is the version I wanna see! 

[Little Boy Named Booze]

Damn @Beerjeezus you really work hard to think about their movie 😂

7 hours ago, The Grohl said:

Currently listening to Popper Punk. Forgot what a banger it is! 

Stop it