Random Green Day Thoughts

[Guest]

Sometimes I think if I didn't have Green Day songs in my bad moments maybe I wouldn't be here. 
 

[Guest]

So my state has this thing called Green Up Day that happens on the first Saturday in May every year. Basically you go out and pick up trash off the sides of the roads LOL. And since it is this Saturday, it is all over TV and every time I see it my eyes just pass right over the word "Up" and I read it as "Green Day" and I get all excited and then I have to remind myself, "Nope, it's just the day we pick up trash off the side of the highway." 🤣 I mean, it's a great concept and it has been around over 50 years, but I really feel like it would be better if we just didn't throw trash all over to begin with and then we wouldn't have to pick it up.

[Mar]

From cheese curds, there is no return. 

[Slave To The Network]

I was thinking about Billie's tattoos earlier today and remembered that he's got two "punx" ones. I wonder why. I can't help imagining him getting the second one and then afterwards thinking "Oh. Shit, I already had that one. Oh well." That's just funny to me. 

[Guest]

Super cute video of a performance before the RRHOF Induction. I love how Billie deals with disruptive people in the crowd. 🤣

 

[That Dude]

I'm always on the lookout for bands that Green Day recommend.   Billie Joe talked about Rob Cavallo and his work with The Muffs, and I decided to give it a listen.   

Oh my goodness, guys.   Dookie sounds near-identical to this album.     Green Day did it better, sure.  But these gals and guys did it first.   

[Guest]

On 4/30/2021 at 10:34 PM, Mar said:

From cheese curds, there is no return. 

So true. Cheese has taken possession of my soul. 🤣

[Slave To The Network]

I just checked my Green Day Videos folder on my computer because I renamed and added some new ones and was curious to see how many I had at this point. It's 666. I have 666 GD videos in this folder. It means nothing (except that I have a shit ton of GD videos), but it's funny.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Slave To The Network said:

I just checked my Green Day Videos folder on my computer because I renamed and added some new ones and was curious to see how many I had at this point. It's 666. I have 666 GD videos in this folder. It means nothing (except that I have a shit ton of GD videos), but it's funny.

Never change that. Just leave that one and put all the new ones in a new folder. 🤣 Also, I am honestly surprised you don't have more.

[Little Boy Named Booze]

With the Bamboozle Festival coming back in 2023 after 10 years of absence it would be cool to have Green Day on the headliners!!

[Montclare]

Was googling the lyrics to Hold On.  And here I thought it was Look for Love that started Billie's career.

[Cali89]

So he was only 2 years old when they released Warning. That's impressive 😄

[Little Boy Named Booze]

Just realizing NOW.
RevRad lyrics video words SCREAM & SING are reversed.

That's so Green Day.

[gnash]

48 minutes ago, Little Boy Named Booze said:

Just realizing NOW.
RevRad lyrics video words SCREAM & SING are reversed.

That's so Green Day.

Pretty sure he swaps them when playing live too

[That Dude]

So Green Day and Weezer have dropped the best albums of their career in preparation for Hella Mega.

Albums that show omage and sometimes blatant copyright issues in honor of their influence. 

Who is up for Fall Out Boy going in a FOAM, Van Weezer direction?

Hella Mega was already great, but with a guitar centric, hard rock album by FOB, it would be the wildest, biggest night of rock music ever!

Move over Woodstock and Liveaid.  

The punk rockalypse hella Hella Mega tour is coming to melt your face off.

[Montclare]

Came across the RevRad instrumentals (with a few FOAM ones) in case anyone else is interested.  Wish there were more isolated vocals out there.

[Beerjeezus]

I read through this whole thing and I have THOUGHTS...

basically the writer makes an argument that Green Day promotes middle class values (individualism, nuclear family, professionalism, striving to get better etc.), while never belonging to middle class economically.

I have to say that this is an interesting way to look at the band, but I’m not convinced by many of the author’s arguments and I think the core of the problem is the way she’s looking at class. She makes the distinction between the working class and the “professional middle class” as a distinction between having a boring job to make ends meet and having an enjoyable, possibly even fulfiling career, typically with more autonomy as to what you do at your job. That might be true for many people (interestingly, the authors lists examples of jobs that don’t seem typically middle class, like working in academia or being an attorney), but in my opinion, this way of looking at class completely discounts the most important thing, which is the work itself. Yes, you are more likely to enjoy a career that you actively chose to pursue, but being economically middle class doesn’t mean you’re certainly going to be less alienated - you’re probably going to make more money, live more comfortably and the career might become a part of you identity etc., but that says nothing about whether or not you feel any actual enthusiasm while creating the best solutions for your customers, teaching annyoing middle school kids math etc... you might. And then there are the so called “bullshit jobs” that typically are done by middle class people and yet, these people feel alienated.

So, how does being in a band fit into this? The writer is right that the way Green Day talks about their work ethic and professionalism is the same as the petit bourgeoisie idea of grind, because essentially, singning a contract with a label isn’t all that different from getting another job, think of being a freelance writer for a company. But that’s it... they talk about music like it’s a job because it IS a job and that’s not acknowledged in the entire thesis, even though it explains  everything (it doesn’t really matter how much money they earn, because the position they’re in is the same).

The writer doesn’t consider the relationship between class and whether or not you’re an employee or an employer - being working class means you’re most definitely going to be working for somebody else (unless you start a company and if you’re successful, you become a boss), same goes for middle class, but when we get to the upper classes and the 1% that Green Day are a part of, there’s going to be very few people who are employed by a single company (that they don’t own/have power over), yet bands typically have contracts that bind them to labels. An owner of a company can have the same amount of money as a rockstar, but they’re in a very different position.

However, the question I find interesting is whether or not can making art as a job be compared to other jobs. There’s no way to explore this question other than by asking people who are employed to create art how they feel - is there creative freedom, do they feel alienated, do they feel fulfilled? Possibly,  these content creators might be the most “free” employees, simply because they would be making art even if they didn’t sign a contract to do so. I don’t believe you can compare BJA saying he “is Green Day/music/thinking about music all the time” with someone who “is a marketing executive,” because art is also a tool of self-expression and that probably goes beyond doing work you don’t mind doing/enjoy to get paid for it (but you wouldn’t make ads in your feee time, you know what I mean?).

So yeah, what I’m saying is that class isn’t one-dimensional and there are different levels of alienation and different ways people relate to their work that don’t neccessarily correlate with how much money people earn and creative work, most prominently art like music, can be made in a similar framework of employment that other jobs are done in and I think you can’t write about art and class withought acknowleding this.

I could scream about this for hours, but I’m sure you got bored half an hour ago so this is it!

[That Dude]

This may be old news, but it's new news to me.

Banging in Your Stereo by....some band....sounds exactly like Know Your Enemy.  

Banging in your stereo x 3

Ra hey!

Massive Wagons is the band. 

[Little Boy Named Booze]

15 minutes ago, That Dude said:

This may be old news, but it's new news to me.

Banging in Your Stereo by....some band....sounds exactly like Know Your Enemy.  

Banging in your stereo x 3

Ra hey!

Massive Wagons is the band. 

I didn't knew ahah but yeah that's the same!

[That Dude]

2 hours ago, Little Boy Named Booze said:

I didn't knew ahah but yeah that's the same!

Apparently Weezer ripped off a song by Ridel High for the track "Sheila Can Do it", but it's not as similar as these two. 

Eh.  

 

 

[Slave To The Network]

I listen to all my GD music on shuffle when I'm driving and something that sticks out to me a lot is how much Billie's voice has changed in recent years. There is such a huge contrast between the way he sounds now when he sings (and even sometimes talks) and something like AI era or before. His singing was at its peak during AI and 21CB in my opinion, and it seems like he just can't replicate that anymore, or simply chooses not to. He used to sing at a bit lower register and it sounded so good! Now it feels like everything is a little too high, falsetto aside. Don't get me wrong; I still think he's a wonderful singer and I love his voice, but I do miss his old singing styles quite a bit sometimes.

[The Grohl]

15 hours ago, Slave To The Network said:

I listen to all my GD music on shuffle when I'm driving and something that sticks out to me a lot is how much Billie's voice has changed in recent years. There is such a huge contrast between the way he sounds now when he sings (and even sometimes talks) and something like AI era or before. His singing was at its peak during AI and 21CB in my opinion, and it seems like he just can't replicate that anymore, or simply chooses not to. He used to sing at a bit lower register and it sounded so good! Now it feels like everything is a little too high, falsetto aside. Don't get me wrong; I still think he's a wonderful singer and I love his voice, but I do miss his old singing styles quite a bit sometimes.

It's funny you bring that up because my bf made a similar remark when listening to the new song. He said his voice has changed and he wasn't a fan. In his own words, it sounds very polished. 

[That Dude]

20 hours ago, Slave To The Network said:

I listen to all my GD music on shuffle when I'm driving and something that sticks out to me a lot is how much Billie's voice has changed in recent years. There is such a huge contrast between the way he sounds now when he sings (and even sometimes talks) and something like AI era or before. His singing was at its peak during AI and 21CB in my opinion, and it seems like he just can't replicate that anymore, or simply chooses not to. He used to sing at a bit lower register and it sounded so good! Now it feels like everything is a little too high, falsetto aside. Don't get me wrong; I still think he's a wonderful singer and I love his voice, but I do miss his old singing styles quite a bit sometimes.

I love "the new song", but Billie's definitely not doing anything complex with the vocals.    I'm sure there will be some variety on.....whatever is coming.   

[Slave To The Network]

9 hours ago, The Grohl said:

It's funny you bring that up because my bf made a similar remark when listening to the new song. He said his voice has changed and he wasn't a fan. In his own words, it sounds very polished. 

Interesting. I don't know if polished is the word I would have chosen, but I don't know how else I would describe it. I guess my best guess at a description would be that the way he used to sing had more of a visceral grit to it that really projected from his very soul. It was still smooth and clear, but it had that underlying emotional depth. Now when he sings it's like he's got the technical prowess, but the depth has fallen by the way side. There are very few songs that I can name recently outside of ones like Brutal Love that seem to have as much of that.

[That Dude]

I think the new album should either be called Seis or Catorce.

Also, that their entire back catalogue be changed to be part of the Trilogy line.  Every album will have a Trilogy cover, but with Pukey slapped on top of it.     American Idiot will now be Siete. 

And ugly.