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14 hours ago, The Grohl said:

Listening to those NFM covers, I think Billie's got plenty of soul! He could totally do it. 

Which covers are you talking about?

 

You've seen him sing FOA live, right? 

You've heard him try to holler, right? 

(To be fair, maybe if he wasn't singing falsetto then it wouldn't be so bad)

 

I mean, if he were to really dig deep, and do it right, maybe they could pull it off with Billie singing lead (he did significantly better than usual with Degenerate, so he can improve). Otherwise they'd need Kevin or Mike to sing (or maybe even Jason White).

Kevin singing seems like the best choice. I already know he's got some soul.

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14 minutes ago, MarriedtoMikeDirnt said:

Which covers are you talking about?

 

You've seen him sing FOA live, right? 

You've heard him try to holler, right? 

(To be fair, maybe if he wasn't singing falsetto then it wouldn't be so bad)

 

I mean, if he were to really dig deep, and do it right, maybe they could pull it off with Billie singing lead (he did significantly better than usual with Degenerate, so he can improve). Otherwise they'd need Kevin or Mike to sing (or maybe even Jason White).

Kevin singing seems like the best choice. I already know he's got some soul.

Of course he screams, but it's when he's not you can hear it. The first cover I thought of was "That Thing You Do!" "That's Rock n Roll" is another great one that highlights his vocals. I can definitely hear some soul and rockabilly in that. It's not far to use FOA as a comparison to his other singing because that's him doing something new with....questionable results. But I've always thought Billie's had a great voice that can be sweet, soulful, and even a bit haunting like on "Macy's Day Parade." It's not always there, but there are certain moments where he's not screaming and shouting that you can really hear what a great voice he has. I know Kevin is my boy, but sorry Kev, I like Billie's voice more.

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2 minutes ago, jengd said:

Wait, are you serious you don’t like Billie’s vocals?  It’s fine if you don’t, I’m just surprised because I think he’s great, very distinctive and a great part of GDs success.  His FOAM falsettos may not be your thing but he really can scream and growl, and sing with a pure, clear voice, be warm etc.  I get that real vocal people think he falls in a slightly unusual place, I think I’ve seen him called a low tenor, but I love his voice and I think he’s used it to great effect in Money Money 2020 part I I.

Billie's singing is either really annoying (nasally, whiny, etc), just alright, or very beautiful. I've learned to put up with it, but I don't like it. 

His falsettos are weak as fuck. Sounds like a pre-pubescent boy trying to sing. Hell, he can hardly keep it in tune.

While he can scream, hollering is different than screaming. (If you've ever heard the song "I Feel Good" by James Brown, then you've heard a holler. Sam Smith and Justin Timberlake have got a pretty good holler down too.). Hollerin' has got some soul behind it. Billie's attempted it, but like his falsettos, it's so puny. It's like shooting an arrow and it falls at your feet. Maybe it sucks because it's artificial. Maybe the lack isn't in his ability, but in his execution.

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2 minutes ago, MarriedtoMikeDirnt said:

Billie's attempted it, but like his falsettos, it's so puny. It's like shooting an arrow and it falls at your feet. Maybe it sucks because it's artificial. Maybe the lack isn't in his ability, but in his execution.

Can you give us an example?

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8 minutes ago, jengd said:

Can you give us an example?

Here's one. It's the same for basically every performance of the song.

 

Here's another. In this one he displays a bit more soul than normal (my face was like 😲). But his holler is still shit and his falsetto is more in tune, but sill weak.

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21 minutes ago, Slave To The Network said:

Falsetto definitely isn't his forte, but no one is good at everything. I think Billie has an outstanding voice and is able to do a hell of a lot with it. He can bring forth raw, unrestrained emotion that many other singers can't imo. He can make it dirty and rough or clean, pure, and beautiful. His voice is certainly very unique in regards to its timbre. Whatever he sings still is very distinctively him, even when he tries to not sound like himself.

It's fine if you don't care for it, but I just think he's a lot more skilled and has a lot more depth than you're giving him credit for.

Try listening to something like Red Tide by the Foxies. That one gives me chills every time. Roshambo is another one where his voice always leaves me speechless.

I would definitely like to hear him explore his vocal chords even more.   Weird voices, here we come! 

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43 minutes ago, Slave To The Network said:

Falsetto definitely isn't his forte, but no one is good at everything. I think Billie has an outstanding voice and is able to do a hell of a lot with it. He can bring forth raw, unrestrained emotion that many other singers can't imo. He can make it dirty and rough or clean, pure, and beautiful. His voice is certainly very unique in regards to its timbre. Whatever he sings still is very distinctively him, even when he tries to not sound like himself.

It's fine if you don't care for it, but I just think he's a lot more skilled and has a lot more depth than you're giving him credit for.

Try listening to something like Red Tide by the Foxies. That one gives me chills every time. Roshambo is another one where his voice always leaves me speechless.

I never said that Billie's a bad singer. All I said was that his falsetto's not it, he can't holler, and he doesn't have that much soul. 

He's a competent singer. I just don't like his voice.

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2 hours ago, Slave To The Network said:

Falsetto definitely isn't his forte, but no one is good at everything. I think Billie has an outstanding voice and is able to do a hell of a lot with it. He can bring forth raw, unrestrained emotion that many other singers can't imo. He can make it dirty and rough or clean, pure, and beautiful. His voice is certainly very unique in regards to its timbre. Whatever he sings still is very distinctively him, even when he tries to not sound like himself.

It's fine if you don't care for it, but I just think he's a lot more skilled and has a lot more depth than you're giving him credit for.

Try listening to something like Red Tide by the Foxies. That one gives me chills every time. Roshambo is another one where his voice always leaves me speechless.

I couldn't agree more with what you say.

Some songs I listen to so carefully and attentively because of the sound of his voice, the way he sings ❤ (Red Tide and Roshambo are even some of those!) 

Although with their last record I feel like his voice sounds too "thin," like weak :( And that wasn't the case in Love Is For Losers. I still like it, but I want him to sing SING 

 

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Everytime I check the leaderboards on here I start singing

Maybe you're the runner-up
But the first one to lose the race
Almost only really counts in
Horseshoes and hand grenades

 

 

 

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Billie's voice is amazing, and I think he has a lot more range than he gets credit for. I agree with what other people have said about how distinctive his voice is; no matter what he is singing, you know it's him when you hear him. OK, some of the FOAM falsetto wasn't my fave and I don't think it's his forte (Fink does it a lot better LOL), but that doesn't make him a bad singer. 

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I have Fink's "aw-aw-aw-awoh" from Popper Punk in my head. It really gets me. Also the way he says amyl nitrate nitrite. :wub: I would listen to Billie Fink just read a list of chemicals for several hours.

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20 hours ago, BillieMyLove said:

Billie's voice is amazing, and I think he has a lot more range than he gets credit for. I agree with what other people have said about how distinctive his voice is; no matter what he is singing, you know it's him when you hear him. OK, some of the FOAM falsetto wasn't my fave and I don't think it's his forte (Fink does it a lot better LOL), but that doesn't make him a bad singer. 

Falsetto isn't my favorite for Billie but maybe he can take some pointers from Fink. He must've been practicing or something because his vocals on Degenerate are good! Downright delicious. If Billie wants to keep doing falsetto he should squash his beef and ask Fink how he does it.

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