Random Green Day Thoughts

[Libertine Angel]

12 minutes ago, The Insider said:

but i love that song😩

It's a solid song, I'm not denying that at all, and considering it's nearly identical to a Lennon/McCartney composition that's unsurprising

[Beerjeezus]

Billie is the king of shamelessly re-writing stuff 

[I’m_An_Idiotic_Cat_Lover]

7 hours ago, Beerjeezus said:

Billie is the king of shamelessly re-writing stuff 

Billie doesn’t have any shame at ALL!

¡Dos! leaves me with more questions than answers. So I would say ¡Trè! is the best trilogy album with ¡Uno! not far behind. I don’t like ¡Dos!  as it has a lot of sex references and I’m eleven, I don’t need that. So ¡Dos! is probably one of my least favorite GD albums as well as my least favorite trilogy album.

[The Blayr]

32 minutes ago, I’m_An_Idiotic_Cat_Lover said:

 I don’t like ¡Dos!  as it has a lot of sex references and I’m eleven, I don’t need that.

Don't worry, the sex references will grow on you 😶

[Beerjeezus]

51 minutes ago, I’m_An_Idiotic_Cat_Lover said:

¡Dos! leaves me with more questions than answers. 

That is an absolutely normal way to feel about Trilogy.

18 minutes ago, Private Snowball (Blayr) said:

Don't worry, the sex references will grow on you 😶

Ugh haha or not really.  I mean, it's not exactly sexy. He sounds like a guy who thinks he's irresistible to young women but in fact he isn't at all. That's what Makeout Party sounds like to me and Fuck Time is more of a jokey song and I don't even know what to say about Nightlife except that it's a meme. Is that an unpopular opinion? Sex on Dos is generally very unsexy.

Aaand while I'm at it, another opinion: as long as sex is concerned, Billie was being really gross at that time. I remember one interview where he talked about Fuck Time and he was like lmao marital rape is fun and although I'm not accusing him of anything and I'm not really judging him for it because it seems he was talking lots of bs at that time, it was disgusting and he better watch his mouth. Definitely not something I'd say is a norm that you're supposed to grow to like.

[I’m_An_Idiotic_Cat_Lover]

1 hour ago, Private Snowball (Blayr) said:

Don't worry, the sex references will grow on you 😶

I don’t want them to. I was having a normal childhood, and then people started complaining about Nightlife, so I listened to it, and I. Am. Scarred. For. Life.

[The Blayr]

46 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said:

That is an absolutely normal way to feel about Trilogy.

Ugh haha or not really.  I mean, it's not exactly sexy. He sounds like a guy who thinks he's irresistible to young women but in fact he isn't at all. That's what Makeout Party sounds like to me and Fuck Time is more of a jokey song and I don't even know what to say about Nightlife except that it's a meme. Is that an unpopular opinion? Sex on Dos is generally very unsexy.

Aaand while I'm at it, another opinion: as long as sex is concerned, Billie was being really gross at that time. I remember one interview where he talked about Fuck Time and he was like lmao marital rape is fun and although I'm not accusing him of anything and I'm not really judging him for it because it seems he was talking lots of bs at that time, it was disgusting and he better watch his mouth. Definitely not something I'd say is a norm that you're supposed to grow to like.

I just meant in general, sex tends to bother people less as they grow up. I haven't read too much into the trilogy and honestly I don't know those albums very well, or much of what Green Day did or said during that time period, except iHeart Radio... 

[Beerjeezus]

1 hour ago, I’m_An_Idiotic_Cat_Lover said:

I don’t want them to. I was having a normal childhood, and then people started complaining about Nightlife, so I listened to it, and I. Am. Scarred. For. Life.

I was about your age when I saw the infamous dick pics so I sort of can relate to the feeling that...that wasn't necessary 

[I’m_An_Idiotic_Cat_Lover]

32 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said:

I was about your age when I saw the infamous dick pics so I sort of can relate to the feeling that...that wasn't necessary 

I’m not even going to ask what that is. Not that I could be even more grossed out then I already am.

[Squashie]

6 minutes ago, I’m_An_Idiotic_Cat_Lover said:

I’m not even going to ask what that is. Not that I could be even more grossed out then I already am.

Don't ask and if/when it pops up on here (cuz it will), I'm sorry (in advanced) for the trauma you will have.

[Beerjeezus]

3 minutes ago, I’m_An_Idiotic_Cat_Lover said:

I’m not even going to ask what that is. Not that I could be even more grossed out then I already am.

I'm not going to explain, I'm afraid you're going to see for yourself sooner or later. Feeling like you couldn't be more grossed out is a big mood when it comes to this band but there's no limit really. For me it's the spit and catch routine that makes me feel like I've seen everything.

Just now, DadBod said:

Don't ask and if/when it pops up on here (cuz it will), I'm sorry (in advanced) for the trauma you will have.

Technically it's banned to post that kind of stuff on here, so it shouldn't appear (but it does because ppl tend to forget about it). Fun fact: it's still to be seen on tumblr despite the recent ban. the algorithm can't recognize it for what it is

[Montclare]

4 hours ago, Beerjeezus said:

 I remember one interview where he talked about Fuck Time and he was like lmao marital rape is fun

What interview/quote was this?  Did he use that phrase?

[Beerjeezus]

1 hour ago, Montclare said:

What interview/quote was this?  Did he use that phrase?

I can't remember and can't find it either. I looked for it both on GDA and GDC and didn't find it, but I remember it well and i remember we discussed it and someone argued maybe translation made it sound worse than what he said, so apparently the interview was from a non-English source. I wasn't trying to quote him because I'd get it wrong. He said something like "sometimes it's time to tie up? your wife and fuck her" or something to that effect. It definitely sounded like a rape joke classic.

Anyway, I'm really not trying to go your fave is problematic, I just wanted to say that it's understandable to be uncomfortable with the trilogy sex talk/writing... Like, I have no problem with it in the context of art and in the interview it's a little ew but not my problem. If a guy cracked the same joke irl I'd assume he's an asshole plus it's a major red flag. Instant chuck 

[Libertine Angel]

8 hours ago, Beerjeezus said:

That is an absolutely normal way to feel about Trilogy.

Ugh haha or not really.  I mean, it's not exactly sexy. He sounds like a guy who thinks he's irresistible to young women but in fact he isn't at all. That's what Makeout Party sounds like to me and Fuck Time is more of a jokey song and I don't even know what to say about Nightlife except that it's a meme. Is that an unpopular opinion? Sex on Dos is generally very unsexy.

Aaand while I'm at it, another opinion: as long as sex is concerned, Billie was being really gross at that time. I remember one interview where he talked about Fuck Time and he was like lmao marital rape is fun and although I'm not accusing him of anything and I'm not really judging him for it because it seems he was talking lots of bs at that time, it was disgusting and he better watch his mouth. Definitely not something I'd say is a norm that you're supposed to grow to like.

Yeah, I don't mind Fuck Time so much because it's a parody of Stones-esque gross hypersexuality, but when later in the album he unironically uses the phrase "like a dirty old man with a babysitter" that's really inexcusable.

[The Bellie]

Everyone has their take on it but I'm definitely not bothered by all the sex references in the trilogy, at least not anymore. I'd say Billie's way of talking and singing about sex has made me move on on that subject that was not obvious for me at first (I had a fucked up teen period). @I'm_An_Idiotic_Cat_Lover if you're eleven it's perfectly normal if you're not comfortable with these subjects  By the way I love your profile picture, well done!

[Redundantuserjinxboy]

On 8/29/2019 at 8:50 PM, Libertine Angel said:

Maybe it's just 'cause it's late at night but I'm listening to A Hard Day's Night and I am finding it fucking hilarious how utterly, shamelessly Hold On is a rework of I Should Have Known Better, every time the harmonica comes in I start laughing.

Dude I was just thinking this the other night. Both two good songs but yeah hold on def ripped it off. Or "payed homage" to it if you wanna be nice about it

[Redundantuserjinxboy]

17 hours ago, I’m_An_Idiotic_Cat_Lover said:

I’m eleven, 

Okay I'm going to get off topic but I want to think back thanks to you 

I got into green day when I was eleven. I mean I liked them way before then, ever since my parents played their singles in the car. But in 2009 that's when I think I became an actual fan thanks to 21 guns and know your enemy. I was in 5th grade, crazy crazy. 

In 8th grade the trilogy came out, the first release as a fan. I loved all three but Tre was my favorite at the time. Now it's Dos actually. I did remember being underwhelmed by oh love at first. Oh and I always hated night life. But me my brother and cousin would go on YouTube to find leaks of songs and just be so fucking hyped. Let yourself go was probably our favorite back then. Ahh the nostalgia. Sure the trilogy might be ... the trilogy but they hold a nostalgic piece of my heart no other music ever will. Dos was my first album. Got it for Christmas 2012. I remember thinking "this is awesome but did they have to get me the worst one?" Lol. I then got Uno a day later at my aunt's. My grandma a few days later took us to go shopping at the mall and we bought Tre. Oh and Dookie. I remember my aunt commenting on how Dookie is everyone's first album lol. Me, my aunt, grandpa, grandma, cousins, and brother, listened to it on the drive back. Fun times. Ahhh take me back to those days. So simple and care free and easy 

 

I was a senior in high school when RevRad came out. I got the leak early on my PC. I thought it was my favorite green day record at the time because I was so hyped. I still think it's good but it's not my favorite lmao.

Year after that me my cousins and my bro finally saw them live in Indy. A dream come true. Seriously dreamed of it since I was 11. Never did I actually think I would.

Now I'm 21 and impatiently waiting for this new mysterious record to come out while rambling on like a grandpa with Alzheimer's to this kid. It's just crazy that this band has that kind of staying power. I remember when I was a new fan, shit I still technically am to those who've been listening since the earliest days. 

 

[Slave To The Network]

I think Fuck Time is hilarious. It's clearly written to be stupid and ridiculous and that really comes through. It's just Green Day being dumb shits.

[The Bellie]

I don't think it's meant to be dumb but rather to show what kind of feelings (or impulses) Billie may have through sexuality, in a probable context of alcohol, maybe drugs, the whole rock n rock thing that he lets show, as well as showing that it's also in that precise context that he sought for that sexuality. Fuck Time does sound willingly goofy in a way, and there's a lot of violence on his part, but it's like stating the way he feels in his guts when wanting to have sex (in a particular context). Apart from the fact he expresses how sex can contain violence, FT goes less deep than in other songs, but if anything it's a good song about sex lol. Good song to start Dos.

The result of tackling the subject of sex throughout the whole of trilogy songs is some violence (on himself and on the object of the desire), through the tone and the words chosen, especially in Fuck Time, Makeout Party, Lady Cobra, and also Wow That's Loud, and Stop When the Red Lights Flash, as for Dos. But there are lot of other examples. In Wild One he expresses more feelings of fascination, there's less violence, and he says "hello" after saying "my mind is going to blow" as to say "now that I'm fucked up I can come to you" and otherwise he maybe wouldn't. In other songs he also expresses desire even without a clear mention of sex or drugs (that is how I interpret Baby Eyes for instance, and there the result is also lighter and goofier). In Nightlife and even more, Oh Love, he says how he needs a particular person (someone he's got to hold on to) or wishes to fall in love but not in a way that will last (in Oh Love, because his heart is "on a noose" and needs someone just not to fall off the cliff). There it's not real love (the video is criticized but I think they wanted to be cliché because he was talking about that exact sort of sex, and "love"-seeking context).

I think it may be the same theme in Stay The Night, and also in Brutal Love, at least one of the themes covered in that song, "bad sex" used like a remedy for his "troubled mind". "How low is this brutal love" may be "what do I really put in that love - too low to be real love" (I say that but when I listen to that song, and I do very often, I do feel love out of it just because of the beauty and intensity of the feelings expressed and the music. And I guess some of us could say our Brutal Love is Billie and it's of course real love lol but as desperate as the desperation he expresses in that song.) 

So the whole sex references throughout the trilogy are not just sex for the sake of it. He expresses everything he puts in it (and I'm not saying it's necessarily a desire devoid of any feeling as opposed to real love all the time, but he expresses how the desire can be very mental and heartache-related). There are other trilogy songs where the subject is rather love (Stray Heart, Missing You, Sweet 16) and others when it's even something else. Idk I guess I'm in the receptive age for that shit but I really do love listening to the trilogy over most of other GD stuff on a daily basis. I don't even feel like I'm listening to "songs about sex" when I do, it's much more than just that. It's raw but complex, down-to-earth (sometimes to the point of cliché but it makes it relatable) and overall very sensible at the same time. I also like that he could express all these darker sides of him and deliberately linking it to sex. That's just how it is for him and I love the honestly there (well, and the sexy vibes too, for all there is!)

[Slave To The Network]

13 hours ago, The Bellie said:

I don't think it's meant to be dumb but rather to show what kind of feelings (or impulses) Billie may have through sexuality, in a probable context of alcohol, maybe drugs, the whole rock n rock thing that he lets show, as well as showing that it's also in that precise context that he sought for that sexuality. Fuck Time does sound willingly goofy in a way, and there's a lot of violence on his part, but it's like stating the way he feels in his guts when wanting to have sex (in a particular context). Apart from the fact he expresses how sex can contain violence, FT goes less deep than in other songs, but if anything it's a good song about sex lol. Good song to start Dos.

The result of tackling the subject of sex throughout the whole of trilogy songs is some violence (on himself and on the object of the desire), through the tone and the words chosen, especially in Fuck Time, Makeout Party, Lady Cobra, and also Wow That's Loud, and Stop When the Red Lights Flash, as for Dos. But there are lot of other examples. In Wild One he expresses more feelings of fascination, there's less violence, and he says "hello" after saying "my mind is going to blow" as to say "now that I'm fucked up I can come to you" and otherwise he maybe wouldn't. In other songs he also expresses desire even without a clear mention of sex or drugs (that is how I interpret Baby Eyes for instance, and there the result is also lighter and goofier). In Nightlife and even more, Oh Love, he says how he needs a particular person (someone he's got to hold on to) or wishes to fall in love but not in a way that will last (in Oh Love, because his heart is "on a noose" and needs someone just not to fall off the cliff). There it's not real love (the video is criticized but I think they wanted to be cliché because he was talking about that exact sort of sex, and "love"-seeking context).

I think it may be the same theme in Stay The Night, and also in Brutal Love, at least one of the themes covered in that song, "bad sex" used like a remedy for his "troubled mind". "How low is this brutal love" may be "what do I really put in that love - too low to be real love" (I say that but when I listen to that song, and I do very often, I do feel love out of it just because of the beauty and intensity of the feelings expressed and the music. And I guess some of us could say our Brutal Love is Billie and it's of course real love lol but as desperate as the desperation he expresses in that song.) 

So the whole sex references throughout the trilogy are not just sex for the sake of it. He expresses everything he puts in it (and I'm not saying it's necessarily a desire devoid of any feeling as opposed to real love all the time, but he expresses how the desire can be very mental and heartache-related). There are other trilogy songs where the subject is rather love (Stray Heart, Missing You, Sweet 16) and others when it's even something else. Idk I guess I'm in the receptive age for that shit but I really do love listening to the trilogy over most of other GD stuff on a daily basis. I don't even feel like I'm listening to "songs about sex" when I do, it's much more than just that. It's raw but complex, down-to-earth (sometimes to the point of cliché but it makes it relatable) and overall very sensible at the same time. I also like that he could express all these darker sides of him and deliberately linking it to sex. That's just how it is for him and I love the honestly there (well, and the sexy vibes too, for all there is!)

Worth the fucking read! Well said!

[The Bellie]

I was listening to Turn Me Loose which I must've listened to 2000 times at this point and because of @Beerjeezus's remark on the anticipation thread I heard "with dom tattoos" instead of "with dumb tattoos". Help 😂

[Beerjeezus]

9 minutes ago, The Bellie said:

I was listening to Turn Me Loose which I must've listened to 2000 times at this point and because of @Beerjeezus's remark on the anticipation thread I heard "with dom tattoos" instead of "with dumb tattoos". Help 😂

You're welcome I guess  It doesn't help that he pronounces it like "domb"

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

I’m not gonna post it in the speculation thread because it’s really just a random thought. Punk rock holiday, a really cool punk rock festival in Slovenia (one of the coolest festival in Europe I would say), just announced the presales for the next summer edition. The announcement post ends with “Welcome to paradise”. Probably it’s too soon for the next summer festivals planning, and maybe it would not even be a big enough venue, so most probably this is nothing, but my first thought went there   I would love to see them playing in that context  

The post is here: 

 

[The Blayr]

I finally realized why 21st Century Breakdown is my favorite Green Day album. It's not only filled with relatable lyrics, it's got the best music of all GD's albums. ♥️

[Squashie]

10 minutes ago, Private Snowball (Blayr) said:

I finally realized why 21st Century Breakdown is my favorite Green Day album. It's not only filled with relatable lyrics, it's got the best music of all GD's albums. ♥️

The variety of the music is what I love about 21CB. You go from KYE to Peacemaker (funky, gypsy beat) to Last night on earth. LIKE HOW, Billie Joe. HOW?!