Random Green Day Thoughts

[Hermione]

3 hours ago, LaughingClock said:

Had to put it somewhere.

 

Fuck the media. Fuck the fan that shames Jeff for shaming cheating girlfriend.

 

i don’t give a fuck how old she was and he is. Women are as mature as men ever get at 25 then we even do. Take it as a compliment.

 

But shaming Jeff because one women’s rights woman wagged his finger at him, by the way, one of the nicest people you could ever meet. This is why I hate social media. It brings famous or quasi-famous people’s personal lives into your noggin. She deserves everything she got and more. Jeff on a year where he has had incredible personal battles had a girlfriend he busted. Fuck her.

Ill say it. This is reverse sexism. Had this happened the other way around and some dude cheated on a girl and the girl was some famous chick, the media would understand but Jeff took the high road and apologized and I am glad he did because that makes him him but fuck that girl. She has every right but if you wanna cheat on Jeff rather than break up with him first than FUCK YOU.

 

Sorry. I represent only my own personal feelings here.

 

http://www.alternativenation.net/green-day-member-calls-out-girlfriend-cheating-on-him/

The cheating/relationship part is really none of our business. No way to make a judgement on it only hearing vague details from one side, it's between them. Jeff has been "shamed" for choosing to act like a dick on social media in front of a large number of fans causing them to go after someone. A 47 year old man with a large fan base directing people to attack a non famous 24 year old over a private issue (and no, sexist shit about men being naturally less mature than women - convenient way to excuse childish behaviour in men and condemn it in women - doesn't justify it). Jeff himself has agreed with the "shamers" and apologised as well as expressing that he'd like for people to move on so defending what he posted is unnecessary.

[LaughingClock]

2 hours ago, Jane Lannister said:

Nothing forces famous people (including Jeff) to be twats on social media. If it wasn't for social media, the public wouldn't find out, so it wouldn't get discussed, but it's always just their own choice if they choose to be assholes.

He wasn’t be a “twat”, he reacted, as a lot of people would to a girl that cheated on him and was busted and he reacted. How surprising? Give me a break. I’m not saying I agree with the way we handled it but I’ve also kicked people out of my own parties (happens over Christmas) because he was yelling at the girl that was at the party who was cheating on him.

I kicked him out of my house because of his behavior but I also gave him a hug and told him I’m sorry. Jeff was completely justified IMHO to react to what to what was a life changing moment. All of a sudden when there is someone to blame for someone, the person being blamed is perfect? Yes, he acted human and made a mistake. People are such fucking hypocrites. Most people wouldn’t have been as cordial afterwards as he was. 27 is a full grown ass woman who made her own choices both to be with him and cheat on him. It’s not like she was 13.

 

Completely understandable reaction and while I’m glad he apologized, my anything towards Jeff with all he’s been through this year was nothing but sadness and empathy for him and a big fuck you to her gold digging, spotlight hungry ex who peobably regrets it. Better he found out who she was now but he was never an asshole as you said. He was human.  He’s far from an asshole. He’s the kind of guy that you would want to bring home to your parents.

48 minutes ago, Hermione said:

The cheating/relationship part is really none of our business. No way to make a judgement on it only hearing vague details from one side, it's between them. Jeff has been "shamed" for choosing to act like a dick on social media in front of a large number of fans causing them to go after someone. A 47 year old man with a large fan base directing people to attack a non famous 24 year old over a private issue (and no, sexist shit about men being naturally less mature than women - convenient way to excuse childish behaviour in men and condemn it in women - doesn't justify it). Jeff himself has agreed with the "shamers" and apologised as well as expressing that he'd like for people to move on so defending what he did is unnecessary.

Exactly, he’s a good man.  And it’s not sexist for me to think that women mature earlier than men. That is my opinion and I don’t suffer from political correctness which allows me to say what I think.

[Billie Hoe]

33 minutes ago, LaughingClock said:

He wasn’t be a “twat”, he reacted, as a lot of people would to a girl that cheated on him and was busted and he reacted. How surprising? Give me a break. I’m not saying I agree with the way we handled it but I’ve also kicked people out of my own parties (happens over Christmas) because he was yelling at the girl that was at the party who was cheating on him.

I kicked him out of my house because of his behavior but I also gave him a hug and told him I’m sorry. Jeff was completely justified IMHO to react to what to Jin was a life changing moment. All of a sudden when there is someone to blame for someone, the person blaming is perfect? 

Completely understandable reaction and while I’m glad he apologized but my anything towards Jeff with all he’s been through this year was nothing but sadness and empathy for him and a big fuck you to her gold digging, spotlight hungry ex who peobably regrets it. Better he found out who she was now but he was never an asshole as you said. He was human.

For someone who claims to love and respect women so much you sure waste no time trying to blame the woman who has received detailed death threats as a result of Jeff's "understandable, completely justified" callout for literally everything. She said she had to delete her twitter because Green Day fans told her they would set her house on fire, with her and her toddler son in it. Yeah. 

I guess a man's emotions and lack of self-control are 100% human and forgivable, but when a woman allegedly talks to other men online (and that's the only thing Jeff claimed she did) she deserves to be burned at the stake and be called a hoe and a bitch and a cunt and a "gold digger" and "hungry for spotlight" and deserves what's coming to her.

You don't know who replaced your brain with a pile of steaming hot shit and how long it's been festering there, but you're quite the asshole, my friend. You don't know what happened, you don't know anything about his ex. Sucks for Jeff if what happened is actually true, but he doesn't deserve a hug for what he did because the poor baby boy is not to blame for his emotions and lack of self-control, he deserves a swift kick in his ass. Publicly outing your ex and ecouraging thousands of eager followers to harrass a young hairdresser online, who likely can't afford private security, is not the same as yelling at somebody at a party, and I can't believe this even has to be explained to a man your age.

You're not being a hero by bravely stating your opinion here, you're actually giving me more and more reasons to forever stay away from men. In fact, what you wrote in this thread is probably the worst thing I've read since the whole drama started. Congratulations. For what it's worth, I hope someone will be able to remove the stinking turd from your head. Please feel better soon.

33 minutes ago, LaughingClock said:

Exactly, he’s a good man.  And it’s not sexist for me to think that women mature earlier than men. That is my opinion and I don’t suffer from political correctness which allows me to say what I think.

Women mature earlier than men because they are forced to. Because society punishes girls for acting out at a young age while still babying middle aged men who do the same. Nice self own there, dipshit, you're part of the problem. And you are sexist, your posts have proven that.  

[LaughingClock]

16 minutes ago, Billie Hoe said:

For someone who claims to love and respect women so much you sure waste no time trying to blame the woman who has received detailed death threats as a result of Jeff's "understandable, completely justified" callout for literally everything. She said she had to delete her twitter because Green Day fans told her they would set her house on fire, with her and her toddler son in it. Yeah. 

I guess a man's emotions and lack of self-control are 100% human and forgivable, but when a woman allegedly talks to other men online (and that's the only thing Jeff claimed she did) she deserves to be burned at the stake and be called a hoe and a bitch and a cunt and a "gold digger" and "hungry for spotlight" and deserves what's coming to her.

You don't know who replaced your brain with a pile of steaming hot shit and how long it's been festering there, but you're quite the asshole, my friend. You don't know what happened, you don't know anything about his ex. Sucks for Jeff if what happened is actually true, but he doesn't deserve a hug for what he did because the poor baby boy is not to blame for his emotions and lack of self-control, he deserves a swift kick in his ass. Publicly outing your ex and ecnouraging thousands of eager followers to harrass a young hairdresser online, who probably can't afford private security, is not the same as yelling at somebody at a party, and I can't believe this even has to be explained to a man your age.

You're not being a hero by bravely stating your opinion here, you're actually giving me more and more reasons to forever stay away from men. In fact, what you wrote in this thread is probably the worst thing I've read since the whole drama started. Congratulations. For what it's worth, I hope someone will be able to remove the stinking turd from your head. I hope you'll feel better soon.

I stopped reading at the part where you were putting words in my mouth.

I know more about this then you do and the girl had issues and if the situation was reversed and some dude cheated on my sister or one day, my daughter, my feeling would be the same.

it has nothing to do with gender, it has to do with character. She made the mistake and he made the mistaken reaction which makes him less guilty because it was provoked. 

The sex again, has morning to do with it and is just this board doing their usual drama fabrication and create issues where there are none.

Edit: I’m done responding to this. Anyone that thinks this is sexist is wrong. Anyone that thinks that I don’t blame Jeff for his behavior and how he handled it is weong wrong.  Anyone who thinks that girl deserves respect from people who care about Jeff is wrong.  Yes. It’s life and none of us are perfect but if we make mistakes, we deal with the outcome and cheating on your awesome, sweet man, makes you the asshole, not the other way around.

Again, I don’t condone his breakdown but anyone that has had a breakup because of the behavior of someone you love/d doesn’t understand human emotion.

[WhiteTim]

The human side is telling me to put everyone calm down 

but the bored side tells me to grab some popcorn 

[Billie Hoe]

5 minutes ago, LaughingClock said:

I know more about this then you do and the girl had issues

Bold of you to assume that you know more about this than anyone, I sincerely doubt that.  

[LaughingClock]

2 minutes ago, Billie Hoe said:

Bold of you to assume that you know more about this than anyone, I sincerely doubt that.  

I didn’t say anyone. And it’s not bold of me to assume I know more than 99.9% of what’s what around this and that around here is not bold, its fact. I know you, in particular like to call that out, but it’s just a fact. Sorry you don’t like that.

Now I’m going back to not coming here for a while again. Bye.

[Billie Hoe]

6 minutes ago, LaughingClock said:

I didn’t say anyone. And it’s not bold of me to assume I know more than 99.9% of what’s what around this and that around here is not bold, its fact. I know you, in particular like to call that out, but it’s just a fact. Sorry you don’t like that.

Now I’m going back to not coming here for a while again. Bye.

Sure you do, buddy.  Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel good.

[herewegoagain]

Spoiler

 

 

[LaughingClock]

22 minutes ago, Billie Hoe said:

Sure you do, buddy.  Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel good.

Lol. I wrote my private message to you before you wrote this post.  It’s irony is so delicious I want to eat it over and over but instead I am going to get the fuck out of here again for a few months because of people like, and especially you.

I don’t give a flying fuck what you think of me. I am not silent about it. Why don’t you ask jnet or the myriad of people I’ve gotten backstage and have introduced the band to for charitable stuff and the like if I’m lying about who I know.

Why I am explaining myself to you, the person that can’t do anything in life but pretend to be affable on an Internet forum 28 hours a day and 10 days a week. You are NEVER NOT here.

Get a life, maybe youll enjoy it.

[Billie Hoe]

Just now, LaughingClock said:

Lol. I wrote my private message to you before you wrote this post.  It’s irony is so delicious I want to eat it over and over but instead I am going to get the fuck out of here again for a few months because of people like, and especially you.

I don’t give a flying fuck what you think of me. I am not silent about it. Why don’t you ask jnet or the myriad of people I’ve gotten backstage and have introduced the band to for charitable stuff and the like if I’m lying about who I know.

Why I am explaining myself to you, the person that can’t do anything in life but pretend to be affable on an Internet forum 28 hours a day and 10 days a week. You are NEVER NOT here.

Get a fucking life Billy Ho.

You said you wanted to leave half an hour ago, why are you still here lol

[WhiteTim]

In the words of Rodney King can’t we all just get along

[herewegoagain]

1 minute ago, WhiteTim said:

In the words of Rodney King can’t we all just get along

 

[DeJennsitized]

3 minutes ago, LaughingClock said:

Lol. I wrote my private message to you before you wrote this post.  It’s irony is so delicious I want to eat it over and over but instead I am going to get the fuck out of here again for a few months because of people like, and especially you.

I don’t give a flying fuck what you think of me. I am not silent about it. Why don’t you ask jnet or the myriad of people I’ve gotten backstage and have introduced the band to for charitable stuff and the like if I’m lying about who I know.

Why I am explaining myself to you, the person that can’t do anything in life but pretend to be affable on an Internet forum 28 hours a day and 10 days a week. You are NEVER NOT here.

Get a fucking life Billy Ho.

You always get so personal when someone calls you out. It’s petty and immature. No wonder you’re sticking up for Jeff 

[Beerjeezus]

(ever heard of the concept of differing opinions?)

[LaughingClock]

11 minutes ago, WhiteTim said:

In the words of Rodney King can’t we all just get along

I wish. But no, we can’t. I would do my part but she will always be angry no matter what I’ll post. Ive been working on her since she first started hating on me for not liking a response to a post of mine. Watch this, I’ll try:

 

@Billie Hoe I am sorry if anything I said upset or somehow made you upset or disappointed but I am truly apologetic for that.  I was just trying to express an opinion of mine regardless of everyone else’s. If I knew it would elicit such a response from people like yourself and others, I would not have posted that. I was just posting something because I didn’t know it was such a big talked about thing on this forum which I knew I should have. I apologize. At the end of the day, we all want love. And contrary to what you imply, I know Jeff, well for years and I was upset and said what I said. In retrospect after reading the article, I just can’t here to vent but this place has become more of a woman’s support group with a silent majority than a fan forum. For all those reasons, I apologize. Do you accept? I mean it truly and would love to just be not on your bad side, not even friends. Just get along. 

That’s my apology and olive branch.

9 minutes ago, DeJennsitized said:

You always get so personal when someone calls you out. It’s petty and immature. No wonder you’re sticking up for Jeff 

Why wouldn’t I stick up for Jeff? Would you not be pissed at someone that hurt someone you care about?  And btw, although you quoted me before I changed it, I had changed “Billy Ho” as that was too far.

[Billie Hoe]

1 minute ago, LaughingClock said:

@Billie Hoe I am sorry if anything I said upset or somehow made you upset or disappointed but I am truly apologetic for that.  I was just trying to express an opinion of mine regardless of everyone else’s. If I knew it would elicit such a response from people like yourself and others, I would not have posted that. I was just posting something because I didn’t know it was such a big talked about thing on this forum which I knew I should have. I apologize. At the end of the day, we all want love. And contrary to what you imply, I know Jeff, well for years and I was upset and said what I said. In retrospect after reading the article, I just can’t here to vent but this place has become more of a woman’s support group with a silent majority than a fan forum. For all those reasons, I apologize. Do you accept? I mean it truly and would love to just be not on your bad side, not even friends. Just get along. 

That’s my apology and olive branch.

stick that olive branch up your ass. you're a joke, you know that? you're gonna message me privately to try and insult me and get a reaction out of me, and on here you're gonna be all apologetic? i have to laugh.

[LaughingClock]

9 minutes ago, Jane Lannister said:

(ever heard of the concept of differing opinions?)

Yeah, some people like Trump, some people don’t. I don’t think that if someone cheats on another person makes them a terrible person. Most people in their lives have cheating on another, including myself, it doesn’t make them a bad person but all the people that know the person that was hurt can choose to hate on the asshole cheater.

4 minutes ago, Billie Hoe said:

stick that olive branch up your ass. you're a joke, you know that? you're gonna message me privately to try and insult me and get a reaction out of me, and on here you're gonna be all apologetic? i have to laugh.

My PM was an insult? It wasn’t a friendly “let’s love each other” message but it wasn’t to try and insult you. I said what I thought and if that’s insulting, sorry.

Anyway, I’m leaving this enjoyable Green Day middle school argument to go have a Saturday afternoon with my wife who I like like and my daughter.

Enjoy yourselves.

[solongfromthestars]

Not so far from the truth tbh

[Beerjeezus]

9 minutes ago, LaughingClock said:

Yeah, some people like Trump, some people don’t. I don’t think that if someone cheats on another person makes them a terrible person. Most people in their lives have cheating on another, including myself, it doesn’t make them a bad person but all the people that know the person that was hurt can choose to hate on the asshole cheater.

Yes, and just like that others can choose to hate on the person who used their big online following against someone they had a private falling out with. It's really only just a matter of perspective/moral standards.

To be fair, both cheating and online harassment are shit behavior. (The difference is we know what Jeff did while we don't know what his gf did.)

[herewegoagain]

2 minutes ago, solongfromthestars said:

 

Not so far from the truth tbh

I want to frame this.

[Billie Joes Eyelids]

2 minutes ago, Jane Lannister said:

To be fair, both cheating and online harassment are shit behavior.

Exactly. Like @LaughingClock, I had a real problem with Jeff being publicly made the villain when he was the one who was hurt in the relationship. They were both wrong. But making Jeff out to be the bad guy in this was wrong too. What she did was shitty. 

[Goofygoldfish]

We managed a pretty civilised conversation about this topic the other day, with differening opinions and everything, ok, so we didn't need popcorn, but y'know, no-one was nasty. That's the kinda community I prefer to be in. 

#justsaying 

[DeJennsitized]

1 minute ago, Goofygoldfish said:

We managed a pretty civilised conversation about this topic the other day, with differening opinions and everything, ok, so we didn't need popcorn, but y'know, no-one was nasty. That's the kinda community I prefer to be in. 

#justsaying 

Spot the difference 🤔

[WhiteTim]

so what’s the difference between what Jeff did and what Billie did to Tim Yohannan? Can’t tell me that if some fans threatened a person cause of back up guitarist non member of a bands personal issue you don’t think some didn’t send threatening letters to Gilman after hearing a 3 min song of Billie wishing death on Tim? You’d be very stupid if you think that didn’t happen... but y’all praise the shit out of Billie even tho he’d wish death on a couple of people publicly