Random Green Day Thoughts

[St. Jonny]

I would want to think anybody who cares enough to come on here likes Green Day enough that they have seen the video. One of the best!

[jengd]

Watched a video last night, Green Day Concert Prive, filmed in France and basically 21 century breakdown and it was so good.  I realised that I haven't listened to that album in ages and it's probably one of my favourites, although I seem to say that about all of them, must listen to it again - think I've hardly listened to anything but revrad since it came out.

[zeldachick14]

I saw a photo of billie taken in a bar that Brit posted on his birthday. I know he's sober, but it still kind of worried me. 

[Billie Joes Eyelids]

2 hours ago, zeldachick14 said:

I saw a photo of billie taken in a bar that Brit posted on his birthday. I know he's sober, but it still kind of worried me. 

Brit hasn't posted a pic of Billie--do you mean the one Sara posted? I believe that was actually taken on New Years Eve.

[Hermione]

14 hours ago, FallingFromTheStars said:

Very well.

It doesn't say explicitly that he doesnt have friends, but you can gather it. The only friend he seems to have doesnt even seem to be in regular contact with him, thus the postcard (Rock and Roll Girlfriend). Whatsername even tells him nobody likes him and that theyre all out without him having fun. Now I realize she is a dark, pissed off character, but it seems rooted in truth. Almost all the songs on the album are about being alone. Its clear that he went to the city by himself. When Billie left for Oakland, he was not by himself. He was always around people.

Furthermore, reading the official picture book companion with Jesus's journals, it gives you this idea.

Billie also has a good relationship with his mom, Jesus definitely does not.

Billie is in a band, Jesus is not.

Even when you watch VH1 storytellers, he very much treats it as a fictional story with a fictional character.

Yes, it is based off of his experiences. But I disagree they are the same people.

Making Jesus his own person makes him more interesting IMO.

Yay . I don't think having friends or being in a band are ruled out on the album, not all details of his life are mentioned so it could be either way. Similarly the relationship with his mum isn't described in detail and also I think Billie's said he had quite a lot of conflict with his mum as a teenager rather than it being as straightforward as a good relationship all the time. I guess it comes down to how you prefer to interpret it. Definitely can be interpreted as a separate character (as he has been in Sam Bayer's music video and the AI musical), but I like to think of him as Billie at the core.

[Beerjeezus]

In defense of Dos: it's actually very good and the closest to Stop Drop and Roll part II as we might ever get. Yes, the whole concept of "i've got a young concubine and we party a lot more than we should" is ridiculous and so are the lyrics but they do fit the theme. I'm not talking about individual nonsensical one-liners but for example Makeout Party gets a lot od hate for its cringey lyrics, but a fact is that it's a song written from a pov of a guy who is rather desperately hitting on a girl (one of the main themes on that album) and they do fit.

I mean, it's an album about partying, letting loose and making poor decisions. the lyrics are a means to an end rather than simply just bad lyrics. It's a story about ridiculous behavior told through ridiculous words. 

[Chin for a Day]

15 minutes ago, Jane Lannister said:

In defense of Dos: it's actually very good and the closest to Stop Drop and Roll part II as we might ever get. Yes, the whole concept of "i've got a young concubine and we party a lot more than we should" is ridiculous and so are the lyrics but they do fit the theme. I'm not talking about individual nonsensical one-liners but for example Makeout Party gets a lot od hate for its cringey lyrics, but a fact is that it's a song written from a pov of a guy who is rather desperately hitting on a girl (one of the main themes on that album) and they do fit.

I mean, it's an album about partying, letting loose and making poor decisions. the lyrics are a means to an end rather than simply just bad lyrics. It's a story about ridiculous behavior told through ridiculous words. 

I agree 100%.  Dos has actually become my favorite of the Trilogy.  I think because I've started looking at it the exact way you describe. 

[Beerjeezus]

4 minutes ago, Scattered Wreck said:

I agree 100%.  Dos has actually become my favorite of the Trilogy.  I think because I've started looking at it the exact way you describe. 

It's always been my favorite part and I would always take it with a grain of salt but it was only today that I realized that the whole album can be seen as one story and that the language is a part of it/works as a connection. 

[MaraGreenDay]

6 hours ago, zeldachick14 said:

I saw a photo of billie taken in a bar that Brit posted on his birthday. I know he's sober, but it still kind of worried me. 

Sara posted that picture. Billie has been in lots of bars and restaurants where everybody is drinking, He even said that he doesn't have a problem with that. I don't think there's anything to worry about. 

 

[jengd]

I agree, I think Billie is a very strong willed person, if he decides he's sober, I think we should all go,with that.  I though his birthday party was in a bowling alley and the photo was from Christmas.  In one of their recent interviews they said that Mike and Billie were walking on the beach, talking about their futures and I feel certain things like whether Billie could tour like they have in the past would be one of the issues that worried them both, for  lots of reasons.  The shows are shorter which I think will help Billie, but part of his obvious joy may be in discovering that he can do this sober, he is still one of the very best frontmen around,  if not the best.

[DeJennsitized]

13 hours ago, FallingFromTheStars said:

I don't know what Green Day was thinking when they let "The Forgotten" be in Twilight. Still embarrassing.

I don't care that it was in the movie. Actually, I went to see the movie  (for nostalgia reasons and because I was a big Rob Pattinson fan.) So I didn't mind hearing Green Day in the credits  

I'm honestly just glad they didn't do a song for 50 Shades  

[FallingFromTheStars]

14 hours ago, sherribomb said:

I would highly recommend everybody watch the music video for Nice Guys Finish Last. It's brilliant and easily one of my favorites. I really wonder why it never gets played on tv.

That music video is so funny! One of my favorites too, it should really be famous. The humor is clever.

5 hours ago, Hermione said:

Yay . I don't think having friends or being in a band are ruled out on the album, not all details of his life are mentioned so it could be either way. Similarly the relationship with his mum isn't described in detail and also I think Billie's said he had quite a lot of conflict with his mum as a teenager rather than it being as straightforward as a good relationship all the time. I guess it comes down to how you prefer to interpret it. Definitely can be interpreted as a separate character (as he has been in Sam Bayer's music video and the AI musical), but I like to think of him as Billie at the core.

I think it's pretty obvious we can rule out the character being in band on the album. It's a pretty important thing to mention, so it's lack of mention in any medium of the story makes it clear for me.

The relationship with the mom is touched on in the companion book quite a bit, as well as the music video.

I'm sure Billie did have some conflict, he was fatherless and a lot changed after Jospeh died. But Jesus pretty much hates his mom and his mom is very antagonistic to him also.

Samuel Bayer's music video was awesome, I think he got a lot right about the character.

I mean, that's cool that you think of them as the same person. But Jesus is his own character regardless, even Billie will and has said that. He always addresses the character by name, not as himself.

[Hermione]

1 hour ago, FallingFromTheStars said:

That music video is so funny! One of my favorites too, it should really be famous. The humor is clever.

I think it's pretty obvious we can rule out the character being in band on the album. It's a pretty important thing to mention, so it's lack of mention in any medium of the story makes it clear for me.

The relationship with the mom is touched on in the companion book quite a bit, as well as the music video.

I'm sure Billie did have some conflict, he was fatherless and a lot changed after Jospeh died. But Jesus pretty much hates his mom and his mom is very antagonistic to him also.

Samuel Bayer's music video was awesome, I think he got a lot right about the character.

I mean, that's cool that you think of them as the same person. But Jesus is his own character regardless, even Billie will and has said that. He always addresses the character by name, not as himself.

I genuinely hate Sam Bayer's interpretation of the characters in that video . So I tend to ignore it. Maybe our preferences there are why we view it differently. I still think it's both (a character and a representation of Billie) but yeah I guess which one you see it as more comes down to your personal interpretation and preference.

2 hours ago, Jenn. said:

I don't care that it was in the movie. Actually, I went to see the movie  (for nostalgia reasons and because I was a big Rob Pattinson fan.) So I didn't mind hearing Green Day in the credits  

I'm honestly just glad they didn't do a song for 50 Shades  

To be honest the list of films their songs have been in is already pretty bad with or without Twilight . Freddy Got Fingered and Transformers 2 anyone?

[sherribomb]

13 hours ago, jengd said:

Watched a video last night, Green Day Concert Prive, filmed in France and basically 21 century breakdown and it was so good.  I realised that I haven't listened to that album in ages and it's probably one of my favourites, although I seem to say that about all of them, must listen to it again - think I've hardly listened to anything but revrad since it came out.

I was just watching that early this morning! Truly a great performance. I don't think they'll ever again sound as tight musically as they did that year.

[Beerjeezus]

4 hours ago, Jenn. said:

I'm honestly just glad they didn't do a song for 50 Shades  

Wouldn't you love if blood sex and booze was used? 

I would!

2 hours ago, Hermione said:

To be honest the list of films their songs have been in is already pretty bad with or without Twilight . Freddy Got Fingered and Transformers 2 anyone?

What the fuuuuck is Freddy Got Fingered?  I saw Transformers 2 in a cinema - it was horrible and mom got traumatized and vowed to never go to see a movie with me ever again haha 

[DeJennsitized]

2 hours ago, Hermione said:

To be honest the list of films their songs have been in is already pretty bad with or without Twilight . Freddy Got Fingered and Transformers 2 anyone?

Haha! It's quite cute - maybe they deliberately give awesome songs to bad movies

27 minutes ago, Jane Lannister said:

Wouldn't you love if blood sex and booze was used? 

I would!

I wouldn't forgive them  

[Chin for a Day]

6 minutes ago, Jenn. said:

Haha! It's quite cute - maybe they deliberately give awesome songs to bad movies

 

Maybe they are laughing all the way to the bank.  

[DeJennsitized]

Just now, Scattered Wreck said:

Maybe they are laughing all the way to the bank.  

Yes, there's that too!  

[herewegoagain]

5 hours ago, jengd said:

I agree, I think Billie is a very strong willed person, if he decides he's sober, I think we should all go,with that.  I though his birthday party was in a bowling alley and the photo was from Christmas.  In one of their recent interviews they said that Mike and Billie were walking on the beach, talking about their futures and I feel certain things like whether Billie could tour like they have in the past would be one of the issues that worried them both, for  lots of reasons.  The shows are shorter which I think will help Billie, but part of his obvious joy may be in discovering that he can do this sober, he is still one of the very best frontmen around,  if not the best.

I haven't thought about it like that but it makes a lot of sense. Even with the social lube that is alcohol I have such massive respect for the way he could perform with his anxiety and all that. Doing what he does sober is on another level.

[FallingFromTheStars]

3 hours ago, Hermione said:

I genuinely hate Sam Bayer's interpretation of the characters in that video . So I tend to ignore it. Maybe our preferences there are why we view it differently. I still think it's both (a character and a representation of Billie) but yeah I guess which one you see it as more comes down to your personal interpretation and preference.

To be honest the list of films their songs have been in is already pretty bad with or without Twilight . Freddy Got Fingered and Transformers 2 anyone?

What do you hate about it?

The only tick I have with it is Whatsername is a bit too emotionally unstable for my taste. I have always pictured her as someone who is always angry. The other tick is that it tells the story out of sequence, all of his relationship with Whatsername and becoming St. Jimmy all happens in Jingletown before he goes to the city.

And oh, I thought were saying it was just a representation of Billie and not a character. Maybe our opinions aren't so different. I view him as a separate character who has been injected with some of Billie. I mean, a lot of times characters have some of their authors in them.

[Beerjeezus]

33 minutes ago, herewegoagain said:

I haven't thought about it like that but it makes a lot of sense. Even with the social lube that is alcohol I have such massive respect for the way he could perform with his anxiety and all that. Doing what he does sober is on another level.

And he seems 100% confident. When you watch him perfom, it's almost impossible to believe he could ever not be completely self-assured. 

[Billie Hoe]

Just now, Jane Lannister said:

And he seems 100% confident. When you watch him perfom, it's almost impossible to believe he could ever not be completely self-assured. 

I think that depends on who he is performing for. Or if he's talking in front of thousands of fans or thousands of people who didn't come for him. He seemed super anxious at the EMAs during his speech for accepting the Global Icon award.

[Beerjeezus]

2 minutes ago, Billie Hoe said:

I think that depends on who he is performing for. Or if he's talking in front of thousands of fans or thousands of people who didn't come for him. He seemed super anxious at the EMAs during his speech for accepting the Global Icon award.

You are right - it comes through much more when he's talking. His speeches during shows are something else - a part of the act so to speak. 

[herewegoagain]

Peak anxious Billie - and also the sweetest thing ever - is the Hall of Fame induction video. Especially while Mike and Tré do their speeches you can see him almost literally falling apart in the background (would add a millions "s" but trying to restrain myself outsid of the fangirls thread)

[Beerjeezus]

7 minutes ago, herewegoagain said:

Peak anxious Billie - and also the sweetest thing ever - is the Hall of Fame induction video. Especially while Mike and Tré do their speeches you can see him almost literally falling apart in the background (would add a millions "s" but trying to restrain myself outsid of the fangirls thread)

The way he was mumbling to himself. Only remembering it makes me feel anxious too. (I tend to take on other people's tension and tics. )