Random Green Day Thoughts

[Beerjeezus]

1 minute ago, BillyjoelxkidXx said:

To tell you the truth - I can't remember many of the categories just that the bitch & I were ripped off on best board buds.

I voted for you in that one. 

[UNICORN VOMIT]

3 minutes ago, Jane Lannister said:

I voted for you in that one. 

We voted for us in that one.

[Chin for a Day]

1 hour ago, BillyjoelxkidXx said:

We will make a new category up just for you.  Go to bed.

Hey @JJ1964 you got my vote in a lot of categories last time but not the one you won

I won 3.

[lizziebix]

Since the last post was an hour ago, I'm assuming you ladies are done spamming this thread, right?

Thanks. 

[GenXIdiot]

3 hours ago, JJ1964 said:

Oh no, don't you see, I'm still #1.  First, I'm Billie's favorite fan.  Second. anyone can love someone unconditionally, sort of like a puppy.  I can identify his faults and still love him unconditionally. Sorry GenX.

Well I know we shouldn't spam but I get one post to defend myself, don't I? I love Billie no matter what, EXCEPT for Hobo Billie. Also, he's a hell of a lot sexier and more beautiful than a puppy! Finally, I identify his faults and love him as the sum of his faults:  the aesthetic of perfection found in  imperfection.

OK done spamming

 

[Hermione]

18 hours ago, Whatsername_123 said:

What do people think of Jason White? Even though he's a permanent member of the band I still think of the band as a trio. There seems to be a lot of awkwardness surrounding him because we don't really know a lot about him. I can understand why he sticks to the music and doesn't do interviews/promotion with Billie, Mike and Tre. But on the other hand it would be nice if he did just the one interview on his own so he can talk about his role in the band and his relationship with the rest of the band.

I think awkwardness is created among fans who insist on categorizing him as either "official member" or not and expecting that he has to play the same role as the other members if he's "officially" in the band, leading to disappointment or confusion when he doesn't even though no one ever said he would.

The band themselves seem to have deliberately left it much less black and white, they never made a big announcement or anything and instead his role just naturally grew from being a live guitarist who was often in the studio with them to also playing with them on a set of albums. He was credited equally with the other members for doing that but nothing else was promised. Just seems like he plays as big or small a role as suits him and the others at a given time, he's a member of the band but his role within it is flexible.

I would love it if he did more interviews! But I suppose it just isn't his thing, and even when he did do an Idiot Nation one a couple of years ago with Jeff Matika asking him fan submitted questions they didn't talk about his role in the band (which seems like it must've been deliberate because pretty sure 90% of the questions submitted were about it ). Still awesome to watch him on stage or hear his contributions to an album, I just think of him as the fourth band member and am entertained by whatever big or small contribution to things he makes.

[RedundantIdiot]

6 hours ago, Hermione said:

 

I would love it if he did more interviews! But I suppose it just isn't his thing, and even when he did do an Idiot Nation one a couple of years ago with Jeff Matika asking him fan submitted questions they didn't talk about his role in the band (which seems like it must've been deliberate because pretty sure 90% of the questions submitted were about it ). Still awesome to watch him on stage or hear his contributions to an album, I just think of him as the fourth band member and am entertained by whatever big or small contribution to things he makes.

Oh, I didn't know he did an interview with Jeff. Where is this video available? 

[Shtrudel]

I don't like John Kiffmeyer's playing style. Other than keeping the rythm, his parts have never had anything to do with the songs themselves. In short, his plays inappropriate fills and hits the crash cymbals in inappropriate times. But I will give him credit for his part on the song "Green Day", it's really neat and unique to a Green Day song. In my opinion, Tre plays the 1,039 songs better. Everything he does is appropriate to them.

What I like about Tre's playing style, is the small build-ups he does. The dynamics in Green Day songs pretty much stay the same and don't change, true, but Tre knows to hold himself and not blasting with killer fills and not hitting the crash cymbals every-damn-chord (Main examples: Burnout, Basket Case). Sadly, today, he just blasts the kit immediately, and it ruins the performance for me. (Of course, I'm only talking about songs that do have these build-ups)

Also, he tends to play his parts tighter in live rather than in the studio (Boulevard Of Broken Dream and Jesus Of Suburbia are great examples for that).

Tre's style was never about playing technical stuff, it was always about playing appropriately to the song. That's what really makes him a great drummer.

[Hermione]

1 hour ago, Whatsername_123 said:

Oh, I didn't know he did an interview with Jeff. Where is this video available? 

You have to be a member of Idiot Nation to see it (there's a bunch of videos "Jeff Matika Show" interviews that he did with the different band members in 2013/14 available for members to watch). Not worth paying to join for though to be honest, they're funny but nothing groundbreakingly interesting in them.

[Dakke]

I was listening to the 21CB demo today and I'm honestly wondering how the album would have been received by the fanbase if it the release version had had the more raw vocals and overall sound of the demo.

[Beerjeezus]

29 minutes ago, Dakke said:

I was listening to the 21CB demo today and I'm honestly wondering how the album would have been received by the fanbase if it the release version had had the more raw vocals and overall sound of the demo.

i'd love it even more.

[PurpleIron1039]

5 hours ago, Jane Lannister said:

i'd love it even more.

Seconded.

[Sixtrix]

They are playing 21st Century Breakdown here on the radio right now! Haven't heard that one played on the radio for quite some time

[Hermione]

13 hours ago, Dakke said:

I was listening to the 21CB demo today and I'm honestly wondering how the album would have been received by the fanbase if it the release version had had the more raw vocals and overall sound of the demo.

I think the sound it had went with it, like with American Idiot a more "stadium rock" style of production is what suited the style of the music best.  I haven't heard many complaints about the production of the vocals (aside from maybe about the pitch correct or whatever it is on the high notes of 21 Guns), for something that grand and ambitious it needed to be polished, and I think it showcases the best vocals he's ever done. It was received pretty well by the fanbase as well as critics at the time, certainly most people here liked it and it got rave reviews when it was first out and won the best rock album Grammy, and they had a very successful world tour off the back of it. I guess a lot of people compared it to American Idiot and didn't think it was as good and that disappointed them, and it was as hugely successful, but overall it was a success. Some better single choices and not abandoning all promotion of it quite early on to promote the AI musical instead might have helped its popularity but I don't think the production was really an issue.

[Dakke]

5 hours ago, Hermione said:

I think the sound it had went with it, like with American Idiot a more "stadium rock" style of production is what suited the style of the music best.  I haven't heard many complaints about the production of the vocals (aside from maybe about the pitch correct or whatever it is on the high notes of 21 Guns), for something that grand and ambitious it needed to be polished, and I think it showcases the best vocals he's ever done. It was received pretty well by the fanbase as well as critics at the time, certainly most people here liked it and it got rave reviews when it was first out and won the best rock album Grammy, and they had a very successful world tour off the back of it. I guess a lot of people compared it to American Idiot and didn't think it was as good and that disappointed them, and it was as hugely successful, but overall it was a success. Some better single choices and not abandoning all promotion of it quite early on to promote the AI musical instead might have helped its popularity but I don't think the production was really an issue.

I mostly agree with that assessment. LotAG was a questionable choice. I personally think Horseshoes and Handgrenades or Static Age would have been better suited, but 21CB was epic in all facets, even if it was pushing it with its sheer length. I think that if 21CB was released this years instead of in 2016, it would have been just as smashing a success.

[PurpleIron1039]

38 minutes ago, Dakke said:

I mostly agree with that assessment. LotAG was a questionable choice. I personally think Horseshoes and Handgrenades or Static Age would have been better suited, but 21CB was epic in all facets, even if it was pushing it with its sheer length. I think that if 21CB was released this years instead of in 2016, it would have been just as smashing a success.

I mostly really loved 21CB; it's definitely in my top 3 GD records. However, I agree about the choice of singles. I've always thought that LotAG was kind of bland and missing something to make it stand out, like the excellent wah pedal-ed solo in Restless Heart Syndrome or the angry, urgent feel of Horseshoes and Handgrenades. I agree that Static Age would have made a great single.

[Hermione]

I think they only chose LOTAG because it was one of the few 21st CB songs in the American Idiot musical. By that point all they talked about was the musical and all they played on TV/awards shows was songs that were in it (preferably with the cast joining them) so there was no way they weren't going to take the opportunity to promote it more with a single that's in it.

[Tayzon Ramírez]

i think that green day have passed through 3 "doors" in their music life:

1=Dookie

2=American Idiot

3=Trilogy

what do you think about the highly waited new album?

 

[Dakke]

6 hours ago, Tayzon Ramírez said:

i think that green day have passed through 3 "doors" in their music life:

1=Dookie

2=American Idiot

3=Trilogy

what do you think about the highly waited new album?

 

Dookie was obviously their breakthrough album, though it had its roots in Kerplunk, which was a sonically and instrumentally diverse album in its own right. American Idiot was in all regards a new beginning and very much Green Day's second act. 21CB built on AI. The Trilogy was a return to roots in some sort of way (power pop and garage rock), though I consider it more to be the oddball album of the second act, much like Warning resembled Dookie in no conceivable way. Both bombed commercially (though Warning had better critical reception). I think 12 is going to herald Green Day's third act, with a rawer instrumental sonical sound reminiscent of some of the Dookie era tracks, combined with the epic lyrics of the AI era.

12 hours ago, Hermione said:

I think they only chose LOTAG because it was one of the few 21st CB songs in the American Idiot musical. By that point all they talked about was the musical and all they played on TV/awards shows was songs that were in it (preferably with the cast joining them) so there was no way they weren't going to take the opportunity to promote it more with a single that's in it.

True, they even rereleased the 21 Guns single when the original Broadway tour started. Am I correct that When It's Time is the only non-album track used in the musical?

[Libertine Angel]

36 minutes ago, Dakke said:

 

Am I correct that When It's Time is the only non-album track used in the musical?

Nope, Favourite Son was and (if I recall correctly) so was Too Much Too Soon.

[Second favourite son]

5 hours ago, Libertine Angel said:

Nope, Favourite Son was and (if I recall correctly) so was Too Much Too Soon.

Incidentally my 3 favourite bits in the musical.

Edit: Adding this here instead of posting twice...

Today my dad asked me to go to his school on Thursday and perform Brutal Love with him as part of their end of year assembly.  He's just taken over as headteacher of a failing primary school, trying to bring it up to standard, and he said the song really captures his feelings for his job - incredibly hard work, difficult decisions to make, but he loves it and really invests in it.  I thought that was pretty cool, and I can't wait to play (we practiced a little and it was awesome).  I'm going to try to get someone to video it so you guys can see it, if you wanted to.

Edited July 16, 2016 by Second favourite son

[Shtrudel]

I'm a guy who preferst standard E tuning, the melody sounds stronger to me that way. Somehow, Green Day actually managed to sound better on Eb up to Insomniac. From Nimrod and on, they did the right move to go up to E again.

Many artists are performing on Eb just because they need to take in mind the singer's range - and they often lose the energy of the song, but for Green Day - it's just artistic preference.

[UNICORN VOMIT]

Im really looking forward to the new stage backdrop.  I loved everything that was going on behind the guys at the HOF.

[ZSebs]

1 hour ago, BillyjoelxkidXx said:

Im really looking forward to the new stage backdrop.  I loved everything that was going on behind the guys at the HOF.

I was actually thinking about this and what the actual backdrop will be. I personally think they will go for the simple backdrop and rely mostly on lighting instead of large screens and pyro and all that jazz

[UNICORN VOMIT]

57 minutes ago, ZSebs said:

I was actually thinking about this and what the actual backdrop will be. I personally think they will go for the simple backdrop and rely mostly on lighting instead of large screens and pyro and all that jazz

Do you really think they will bring back pyro? I enjoyed the screens with the old pictures - they were cool - Im hoping the GREEN DAY light sign is thrown away.