Random Green Day Thoughts

[Libertine Angel]

1 hour ago, a123 said:

Take Back

Oh shit, I forgot that existed. Maybe not all of Nimrod then.

[WhiteTim]

1 hour ago, mrduckygoosy said:

 

Well I didn't mean that actually. The band definitely dropped songs like I Don't Wanna Fall In Love because they thought it wouldn't fit the album and I know they weren't "forced" in any way but the fact Rob Cavallo was unsure how he would proceed to record Good Riddance makes me think it might have been easier for him at the moment to keep some sound unity. Still I'm sure the album sounds precisely like the band wanted it to sound like, choices had to be made though. I agree so much about Pulling Teeth by the way, could almost be a Beatles song haha 

Well song wise it was vastly different (assuming it was played acoustically back then as well) and it was a lot more serious than the other songs to me it wouldn't have fit on Dookie Itd slowed the album down I don't think it was a Rob didn't know how to record it moment as Rob is a diverse producer as Rob has produced records for almost every genre except for rap/hip hop I think it was a don't think it's the right time moment going by the Insomniac version the song wouldn't had an impact if they used that version 

[XxXxXxXxX]

12 minutes ago, Libertine Angel said:

Oh shit, I forgot that existed. Maybe not all of Nimrod then.

1 hour ago, a123 said:

Sorry for being late to the party, but I agree that they should play all of Nimrod live. And even if they don't do the whole album there's a few songs on that album that haven't been played live in a while that they should play.

I've looked at setlist.fm and Reject and Uptight have only been played once.

Jinx, Last Ride In, All the Time & Worry Rock all played just the once.

Haushinka played four times, Take Back played five times.

Here's the source: http://www.setlist.fm/stats/albums/green-day-13d68939.html

 

JINX! I really like Jinx I will be seriously bummed if I go my whole life without hearing them play it live.

[grene cniht]

7 hours ago, mrduckygoosy said:

Interesting how On The Wagon, Don't Wanna Fall In Love and Walking The Dog (I know this one is a cover but still) were from the dookie sessions and all had that 50's/60's vibe. Makes me wonder how Dookie would have sounded if Rob Cavallo had been able to handle more diversity at the time.

Wait, is there a Dookie sessions version of On The Wagon? I know the song is included in both Longview and Basket Case singles, but I've never heard of such a version.

[Maddie86]

13 hours ago, BillyjoelxkidXx said:

Have you never flown because you haven't wanted to go anywhere or like me do you have a fear of flying.
 

I don't have a fear of it, I just haven't been able to afford a trip yet where I would need to fly, usually my road trips are like 4 hours away so I just drive

3 hours ago, Hermione said:

I would love all of Nimrod live . However they don't really do album anniversaries do they? They made a small attempt at it with Dookie's 20th (with it being the album that made them huge) but they never bothered with any 10th anniversaries or other 20ths so far so I'm not expecting anything. Especially with Nimrod where they'd have to re-learn so many songs including many they've never played live and that are tricky to play live.

so far Dookie is the only full abum anniversary set they've done. I'd love to see Insomniac but I doubt they'd ever do that one, and the time has already passed for it to be an anniversary set (unless they do a 21st anniversary set haha).

Is anyone here familiar with the Insubordination Fest that used to happen every summer in Baltimore? at its peak it was at a venue that held maybe a thousand people or so and it was all underground punk bands, mostly pop-punk. I guess Billie saw DVDs from it at one point and thought it was great, he said that it would be an awesome event for them to play Kerplunk at. in 2012 the fest organizers tried to get it to happen but they were working on the trilogy at the time and couldn't do it. Imagine how great a Kerplunk live set would be!

[UNICORN VOMIT]

12 hours ago, JJ1964 said:

I lvoe Hitchin A Ride.  I just don't love when he sticks his hands down his past.  So nice try bitch, but you are still wrong. 

haha you misunderstood me.  

[mrduckygoosy]

1 hour ago, Master Roshi said:

Wait, is there a Dookie sessions version of On The Wagon? I know the song is included in both Longview and Basket Case singles, but I've never heard of such a version.

No sorry, I'm afraid there's no demo of On The Wagon ^^ My point was that it was recorded during Dookie making.

[PurpleIron1039]

4 hours ago, Libertine Angel said:

Oh shit, I forgot that existed. Maybe not all of Nimrod then.

I actually quite liked Take Back. It was different, to say the least.

[Hermione]

8 hours ago, Kyle Serlington said:

I don't have a fear of it, I just haven't been able to afford a trip yet where I would need to fly, usually my road trips are like 4 hours away so I just drive

so far Dookie is the only full abum anniversary set they've done. I'd love to see Insomniac but I doubt they'd ever do that one, and the time has already passed for it to be an anniversary set (unless they do a 21st anniversary set haha).

Is anyone here familiar with the Insubordination Fest that used to happen every summer in Baltimore? at its peak it was at a venue that held maybe a thousand people or so and it was all underground punk bands, mostly pop-punk. I guess Billie saw DVDs from it at one point and thought it was great, he said that it would be an awesome event for them to play Kerplunk at. in 2012 the fest organizers tried to get it to happen but they were working on the trilogy at the time and couldn't do it. Imagine how great a Kerplunk live set would be!

That would be really cool! He's mentioned wanting to play all of Kerplunk more than once as well so definitely seems like the most likely album they'd do. The fact they don't seem to be too bothered about anniversaries (even with Dookie they were playing it a year early) means maybe the year doesn't matter too much, I guess they'd just have to be in the right place/right time according to their schedule to do it.

[Chin for a Day]

I think the reason they don't really celebrate an album from cover to cover too much is because it is just boring.  For me, part of the excitement of a concert is trying to figure out what they will play next and hoping they will play my favorites.  I'm always listening ot the first notes of the next song trying to figure it out.  If I know what is coming next, it takes all the spontaneity out and alot of the excitement.   If they played Nimrod cover to cover I would take a piss break at Platypus.  PLus, if I wanted to hear Nmrod cover to cover I would just put the album on.   Also, just because an album flows well, doesn't mean it will flow well in a concert setting.  I want excitement, to be entertained.  For me, playing an album cover to cover kind of takes that excitement away.

[Libertine Angel]

1 hour ago, JJ1964 said:

I think the reason they don't really celebrate an album from cover to cover too much is because it is just boring.  For me, part of the excitement of a concert is trying to figure out what they will play next and hoping they will play my favorites.  I'm always listening ot the first notes of the next song trying to figure it out.  If I know what is coming next, it takes all the spontaneity out and alot of the excitement.   If they played Nimrod cover to cover I would take a piss break at Platypus.  PLus, if I wanted to hear Nmrod cover to cover I would just put the album on.   Also, just because an album flows well, doesn't mean it will flow well in a concert setting.  I want excitement, to be entertained.  For me, playing an album cover to cover kind of takes that excitement away.

Nah, when he said they'd play Dookie front to back at Brixton that was one of the most exciting things I've ever had at a gig. Sure, it meant missing some other stuff off the setlist, but it made up for it.

[Chin for a Day]

Just now, Libertine Angel said:

Nah, when he said they'd play Dookie front to back at Brixton that was one of the most exciting things I've ever had at a gig. Sure, it meant missing some other stuff off the setlist, but it made up for it.

I still disagree, I would find it boring.  It is such an old band thing to do.  

[Hermione]

2 hours ago, JJ1964 said:

I think the reason they don't really celebrate an album from cover to cover too much is because it is just boring.  For me, part of the excitement of a concert is trying to figure out what they will play next and hoping they will play my favorites.  I'm always listening ot the first notes of the next song trying to figure it out.  If I know what is coming next, it takes all the spontaneity out and alot of the excitement.   If they played Nimrod cover to cover I would take a piss break at Platypus.  PLus, if I wanted to hear Nmrod cover to cover I would just put the album on.   Also, just because an album flows well, doesn't mean it will flow well in a concert setting.  I want excitement, to be entertained.  For me, playing an album cover to cover kind of takes that excitement away.

Yeah they do worry a lot about the crowd definitely knowing the songs and being into them so I think they'll always prefer to stick to a tried and tested setlist for the most part. Could be something they pull out occasionally though. It worked very well with Dookie because it only takes like 45 minutes to play the whole album so more than half the show can still be other songs, and they always play half that album anyway, so it didn't actually make the overall show/setlist very different. 

Hearing a change to the usual setlist and loads of songs you've never heard them play live before isn't boring! And it's no more predictable than a regular setlist if you're familiar with it. None of their albums are very long and they play way over 2 hour shows so would definitely be do-able. Because of the worrying about the crowd not singing along thing I do think Dookie and AI would always be more likely choices at larger shows but since Billie's said he'd like to do Kerplunk more than once I still think they might try it at a smaller show one day. 

[Chin for a Day]

2 minutes ago, Hermione said:

Yeah they do worry a lot about the crowd definitely knowing the songs and being into them so I think they'll always prefer to stick to a tried and tested setlist for the most part. Could be something they pull out occasionally though. It worked very well with Dookie because it only takes like 45 minutes to play the whole album so more than half the show can still be other songs, and they always play half that album anyway, so it didn't actually make the overall show/setlist very different. 

Hearing a change to the usual setlist and loads of songs you've never heard them play live before isn't boring! And it's no more predictable than a regular setlist if you're familiar with it. None of their albums are very long and they play way over 2 hour shows so would definitely be do-able. Because of the worrying about the crowd not singing along thing I do think the ones they've already played in full before (Dookie and AI) would be more likely choices at larger shows but since Billie's said he'd like to do Kerplunk more than once I still think they might try it at a smaller show one day. 

I never said that playing songs they don't play often is boring, as a matter of fact, I think that is extremely exciting.  I would love to hear some songs they don't play often.  What I said was, that for me, knowing exactly the order the songs are being played is boring.  I know they play alot of Dookie and AI, and that is fine, most of those songs are awesome.  I honestly do not see what is so special about playing an album from beginning to end in order.  

If I were at a concert where they played Kerplunk from beginning to end it would make me very sad.  

[Hermione]

28 minutes ago, JJ1964 said:

I never said that playing songs they don't play often is boring, as a matter of fact, I think that is extremely exciting.  I would love to hear some songs they don't play often.  What I said was, that for me, knowing exactly the order the songs are being played is boring.  I know they play alot of Dookie and AI, and that is fine, most of those songs are awesome.  I honestly do not see what is so special about playing an album from beginning to end in order.  

If I were at a concert where they played Kerplunk from beginning to end it would make me very sad.  

I found the novelty of hearing the whole album back to back live exciting in itself (and not something that could be compared to listening to it on CD), but even without that it means you get a change from the regular setlist and a load of songs they don't play often, which is also exciting. And even if they played all of Kerplunk at your show you'd still get over an hour of non Kerplunk songs . I'm personally a big fan of seeing their regular setlist and not that bothered about seeing rare songs etc but seeing Dookie suited me fine because all it did was make the middle of the show different, there was still time for nearly all the regular stuff before and after it so it was the best of both worlds. I wouldn't want to see it at every show but as an occasional thing it does make a show special.

[Chin for a Day]

6 minutes ago, Hermione said:

I found the novelty of hearing the whole album back to back live exciting in itself (and not something that could be compared to listening to it on CD), but even without that it means you get a change from the regular setlist and a load of songs they don't play often, which is also exciting. And even if they played all of Kerplunk at your show you'd still get over an hour of non Kerplunk songs . I'm personally a big fan of seeing their regular setlist and not that bothered about seeing rare songs etc but seeing Dookie suited me fine because all it did was make the middle of the show different, there was still time for nearly all the regular stuff before and after it so it was the best of both worlds. I wouldn't want to see it at every show but as an occasional thing it does make a show special.

OK, we can agree to disagree.  Everyone gets different things out of concerts.  I would be very disappointed.  If they did play Kerplunk, I would leave at The Words I Might Have Ate and not come back until My Generation, so it would be a big chunk of the album.    However, I will admit seeing Dominated Love Slave live would probably be a memory to tell the grandchildren.

I actually am a fan of the regular set list as well.  Those songs are hits for a reason.  I would like to see them mix in some songs that they don't play often, but for the most part, I'm good with the setlist.  

 

[Hermione]

1 minute ago, JJ1964 said:

OK, we can agree to disagree.  Everyone gets different things out of concerts.  I would be very disappointed.  If they did play Kerplunk, I would leave at The Words I Might Have Ate and not come back until My Generation, so it would be a big chunk of the album.    However, I will admit seeing Dominated Love Slave live would probably be a memory to tell the grandchildren.

I actually am a fan of the regular set list as well.  Those songs are hits for a reason.  I would like to see them mix in some songs that they don't play often, but for the most part, I'm good with the setlist.  

 

I'd be hoping they didn't include any of the bonus Sweet Children EP songs . Otherwise I'd enjoy it. I saw Dominated Love Slave at Wembley and that was definitely memorable! 

Agreed and I think we're in a small minority there . But it's good because we're very likely to be pleased by their setlists. 

[RedundantIdiot]

Was I the only person who didn't know that Good Riddance is a ballad before hearing it for the 1st time? 

Because of the short time frame between discovering the band and hearing Good Riddance for the 1st time, I didn't get the memo that the song is a ballad. I certainly got a shock when it came on the radio!  . I laugh at this every time I hear the song. 

Did anyone else get caught out like I did with this or another song? 

[UNICORN VOMIT]

8 hours ago, JJ1964 said:

I think the reason they don't really celebrate an album from cover to cover too much is because it is just boring.  For me, part of the excitement of a concert is trying to figure out what they will play next and hoping they will play my favorites.  I'm always listening ot the first notes of the next song trying to figure it out.  If I know what is coming next, it takes all the spontaneity out and alot of the excitement.   If they played Nimrod cover to cover I would take a piss break at Platypus.  PLus, if I wanted to hear Nmrod cover to cover I would just put the album on.   Also, just because an album flows well, doesn't mean it will flow well in a concert setting.  I want excitement, to be entertained.  For me, playing an album cover to cover kind of takes that excitement away.

Well you obviously didn't see 99 Rev tour then.....

Taking a pee break - that's what KFAD is there for.

[Private Ale.]

i like "on the wagon" a lot. Obviously it's not a masterpiece but sounds really cool and i like singing along to it  .It's one of the few songs my voice doesn't suck while singing.

[Beerjeezus]

51 minutes ago, Private Ale. said:

i like "on the wagon" a lot. Obviously it's not a masterpiece but sounds really cool and i like singing along to it  .It's one of the few songs my voice doesn't suck while singing.

It's one of my favorite songs. It has such a bluesy vibe that I love. it's so fun to play and sing as well (and indeed easy enough )

[jengd]

Just had a thought, if Geezer is due out in the Autumn, would reprise want the album to come out around the same time?  Would they complement each other or would it cause problems, too much exposure for Billie (ha ha), how could he do the publicity for both?   Would they be able to separate out one from the other, could be a bit messy.  Has there been anything more about Geezer's release?

[UNICORN VOMIT]

3 hours ago, jengd said:

Just had a thought, if Geezer is due out in the Autumn, would reprise want the album to come out around the same time?  Would they complement each other or would it cause problems, too much exposure for Billie (ha ha), how could he do the publicity for both?   Would they be able to separate out one from the other, could be a bit messy.  Has there been anything more about Geezer's release?

I don't think geezer is gonna be  box office smash - the album will be released when it's ready.?

[ghesboro]

5 hours ago, jengd said:

Just had a thought, if Geezer is due out in the Autumn, would reprise want the album to come out around the same time?  Would they complement each other or would it cause problems, too much exposure for Billie (ha ha), how could he do the publicity for both?   Would they be able to separate out one from the other, could be a bit messy.  Has there been anything more about Geezer's release?

I feel like it's going to be more like "Like Sunday Like Rain", so not a big deal. Personally, I don't really see it interfering with Green Day, or at least not interfering to the point where they'd have to reschedule the new album's release date. 

[localinsomniac]

5 hours ago, jengd said:

Just had a thought, if Geezer is due out in the Autumn, would reprise want the album to come out around the same time?  Would they complement each other or would it cause problems, too much exposure for Billie (ha ha), how could he do the publicity for both?   Would they be able to separate out one from the other, could be a bit messy.  Has there been anything more about Geezer's release?

I don't think it would be characterized as overexposure. They did put out three albums in a three-month span, so one album plus a soundtrack (assuming there will be one) would be just fine. Maybe they would even complement each other.