Guest Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Church on Sunday is easily one of GD's most underrated love songs and it's just so fucking amazing and real. Way more realistic, meaningful, and relatable than Last Night on Earth or When Its Time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny. Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Really? Warning has some very serious subjects on it, a failing marriage, materialism, being an individual, not following the crowed, etc. It was a first step at tackling more serious subjects. I have always thought of it as a pre-cursor to AI. IT is a brilliant, more mature album than anything they had done in the past, up to that point.And, it is hardly over produced. To me, Nimrod is the album that nailed all of these things. Warning I felt didn't come close. Nimrod is a way more mature album - dealing with suicidal thoughts, again a failing marriage, reflecting on passing youth (even though the band weren't old at all), and so much anger. Warning may have tackled similar issues, but I don't think in the same gritty way. Well this is all down to personal opinion, but I'd say musically (not lyrically) they are similar. There are still songs on the trilogy I find hard to tell apart without listening to them; same thing on Warning. Obviously there are still great tracks on every album because Green Day are a great band, there are great ones in the trilogy that doesn't make the records great. The band must have felt it wasn't their best work ever as they were famously discussing whether they wanted to carry on making music before AI, if I'm remembering right.But hey, music is like poetry people will always have their own interpretations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 There are still songs on the trilogy I find hard to tell apart without listening to themI feel like that's a problem with every song on every album.The band must have felt it wasn't their best work ever as they were famously discussing whether they wanted to carry on making music before AI, if I'm remembering right.That was more to do with tensions within the band than any external factors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny. Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I feel like that's a problem with every song on every album.Really? I feel like I can remember at least the chorus to most of Green Day's stuff without hearing it. But I guess I have been listening to them for over 10 years now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Nimrod is a great album, I'm not denying it. I really jsut don't see how you think it is more mature than Warning. What song do you think talks about a failing marriage? If you are referring to Redundant, that is not about a failing marriage, but an apathetic one. There is actually a big difference. Church on Sunday is a very realistic view of a relationship. As others have said, it is the best love song they have ever written. Partly because it talks about the compromises that need to occur for a loving relationship to last. IT is one of the most relatable songs they have ever written. I'm curious, what songs on Nimrod do you think relate to passing youth and suicidal thoughts?Nimrod also includes some silly fillers like Take Back and King for A Day, which Warning does not have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 TAAAAAAAAAAKE BAAACCCKKKKK!!!! TAAAAAKE!!!! BAAAACKKKK!!!!!wow such song very maturity many writing skills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Yeah a song about how much they hate a dying cancer patient is pretty mature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I think Nimrod and Warning both have great lyrics but they tackle the subject matter in quite different ways. On Nimrod he's still very much looking inward and mostly just talking about his personal feelings and experiences but Warning is where he started to look more outward, writing about the issues of society in addition to and in relation to his own issues. Which he'd later continue with to a higher level with American Idiot. There are some fun and trivial lyrics on Warning as there also are on Nimrod and all their albums but overall it was a move to more mature songwriting rather than less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not a Salad Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 ...does that mean their next album will be as good as American Idiot?I think you mean "...does that mean their next album will become one of Steven Seagull's least favorite Green Day albums?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny. Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Nimrod is a great album, I'm not denying it. I really jsut don't see how you think it is more mature than Warning. What song do you think talks about a failing marriage? If you are referring to Redundant, that is not about a failing marriage, but an apathetic one. There is actually a big difference. Church on Sunday is a very realistic view of a relationship. As others have said, it is the best love song they have ever written. Partly because it talks about the compromises that need to occur for a loving relationship to last. IT is one of the most relatable songs they have ever written. I'm curious, what songs on Nimrod do you think relate to passing youth and suicidal thoughts?Nimrod also includes some silly fillers like Take Back and King for A Day, which Warning does not have. Worry Rock is all about a failing marriage, Redundant is obviously about something else. Passing youth - well The Grouch is a pretty big one, Hitchin' a Ride's dried up fountain of youth and a loss of direction, also Good Riddance is definitely about time passing. Suicidal thoughts is like all of Uptight.And yeah, Nimrod does have amazing songs that shows writing skills, Redundant still gives me the chills and Scattered really is incredible. Maybe it's just I relate to Nimrod more, but to me it's definitely in my top 3 Green Day records.I'm sorry but Warning definitely has its fillers. Fashion Victim much - I know it deals with materialism but that doesn't make it a good song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unextraordinarygirl Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Worry Rock is all about a failing marriage, Redundant is obviously about something else. Passing youth - well The Grouch is a pretty big one, Hitchin' a Ride's dried up fountain of youth and a loss of direction, also Good Riddance is definitely about time passing. Suicidal thoughts is like all of Uptight.And yeah, Nimrod does have amazing songs that shows writing skills, Redundant still gives me the chills and Scattered really is incredible. Maybe it's just I relate to Nimrod more, but to me it's definitely in my top 3 Green Day records.I'm sorry but Warning definitely has its fillers. Fashion Victim much - I know it deals with materialism but that doesn't make it a good song. Redundant is about marital issues. It seems like people either like Nimrod or Warning but not both. It's like they like one and hate the other. I personally like Warning more. Misery is one of my favorite songs. Am I alone on this? The music is so damn catchy! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Redundant is about marital issues. It seems like people either like Nimrod or Warning but not both. It's like they like one and hate the other. I personally like Warning more. Misery is one of my favorite songs. Am I alone on this? The music is so damn catchy! I personally like both Nimrod and Warning, but Warning is far superior, musically, lyrically and content wise. You are not alone, I love Misery. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I like Nimrod a lot more musically, lyrically and content wise . Love the subtle surfy/retro feel of Nimrod's music and the variety, while folkiness as heard on Warning is my least favourite of the sounds they've tried. And I can see that the lyrical approach progressed on Warning but I still prefer the lyrics of Nimrod, I just like the choice of words and turn of phrase more and even though the cliched-ness of some of Warning's lyrics is mostly knowing and deliberate it still makes them less appealing to me. And I prefer the more personal themes of Nimrod to the social commentary stuff on Warning, and even though Warning has a lot of personal stuff too I find Nimrod's more relatable. It's just personal preference though, they both have their merits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I like both. Nimrod is one of my favorites, but I consider it a step between Insomniac and Warning. Insomniac is probably their first attempt of a serious album. It deals with growing up, relationships that don't work and drugs. These are all personal issues like the ones he tacked on Nimrod - he may have written about different issues in a more mature way, but it hardly was a new topic in his writing. However, Warning actually brought new topics and even more serious writing. The often criticised folky sound in my opinion suits the mood in songs like Castaway or Deadbeat Holiday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I very much agree, nicely put! And I agree that the folksy sound suits the album, and they did it well. Folksy is just one of my least favourite sounds, unfortunately 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I very much agree, nicely put! And I agree that the folksy sound suits the album, and they did it well. Folksy is just one of my least favourite sounds, unfortunately Normally I'm not a fan of folk rock either, but in this case it was a nice change. It gets easily overplayed, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Normally I'm not a fan of folk rock either, but in this case it was a nice change. It gets easily overplayed, though. Yeah I mean even though I'm not a big fan of that sound I like the album, so they must've pulled it off pretty well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I like both. Nimrod is one of my favorites, but I consider it a step between Insomniac and Warning. Insomniac is probably their first attempt of a serious album. It deals with growing up, relationships that don't work and drugs. These are all personal issues like the ones he tacked on Nimrod - he may have written about different issues in a more mature way, but it hardly was a new topic in his writing. However, Warning actually brought new topics and even more serious writing. The often criticised folky sound in my opinion suits the mood in songs like Castaway or Deadbeat Holiday. My dear Jane you are wise beyond your years. This was perfectly put. Bravo!!!I would like to point out that I have no issues with people like Nimrod or Warning or any album over another. It is all opinions and that is all good. The problem I have is that a statement was made that Warning dealt with trivial subjects and that I think is incorrect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny. Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I would like to point out that I have no issues with people like Nimrod or Warning or any album over another. It is all opinions and that is all good. The problem I have is that a statement was made that Warning dealt with trivial subjects and that I think is incorrect. One person's meaningful is another's trivial, it's all valid Insomniac is one I've recently started to see in a whole new light, Stuart and the Ave might actually be one of my favourite songs now. That angst of moving on after a fuck up - and Westbound Sign will always be one of the best to me! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 My dear Jane you are wise beyond your years. This was perfectly put. Bravo!!! thank you for such nice words, Judi. This made me beyond happy. I'm glad you enjoyed my musing. One person's meaningful is another's trivial, it's all valid Insomniac is one I've recently started to see in a whole new light, Stuart and the Ave might actually be one of my favourite songs now. That angst of moving on after a fuck up - and Westbound Sign will always be one of the best to me! Yes, it all boils down to taste Insomniac is perfect, I could go on and on about it. I love the way he switched to the serious mood and the lyrics have edge and real strenght in them. It's full of emotion. Really the best thing to listen to when you're a teenager in the i hate everything and noone understands mood 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Schmitt Lisboa Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I saw this internet ad from Brazil and it instantly made me think of the UNO DOS TRE visual identity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Warning is like Bob Dylan without Bob's voice to me and that's great Nimrod is good as well but to me feels bloated at times doing a full listen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Warning is like Bob Dylan without Bob's voice to me and that's great Nimrod is good as well but to me feels bloated at times doing a full listen good point, nimrod feels a bit too long. it's hard to listen to in full Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Hey Barnes and Noble, I'm so happy that you're carrying Kerrang now, but you couldn't have gotten it in stock six months ago when I ordered the one all about the HOB show in Cleveland (a magazine largely about a show I was lucky enough to go to? Uh, yeah, I want to hang on to that!) and had to pay out the ass in shipping to get it from the UK (and I was sent a kind of ripped up copy, compared to these imported mags B&N was selling, which were more securely wrapped in plastic)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrduckygoosy Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 What song do you think talks about a failing marriage?I'm curious, what songs on Nimrod do you think relate to suicidal thoughts?Worry Rock and Scattered talk about a failing marriage and Uptight is about suicidal thoughts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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