WhiteTim Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 well the vocals atleast Yeah the vocal filters shouldve been left off or lowered for the production of the trilogy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 It's actually the vocal filter that ruins Nightlife for me, rather than Lady Cobra's part, which I love. I want the chorus to sound like "Taking a ride to my old haunt" not "Tatakikingng aa riridede toto mymy ololdd hauhaunt," y'know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex_Everything Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 I kind of really hate Nightlife. But the bass is alright. Good ol' Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross_19 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 The way i think about it sometimes is that if Green Day had have gone down the concept album route again, there'd have been criticisms of them for not doing simmering different in terms of style, if they'd have done something like Warning, there'd have been criticisms, one of the best things about the trilogy is that it's something different, new. Yes theres a few weak songs, but I'd rather have those songs than them never being released. I'd be delighted if they carried on with this style, I'd be delighted if they did a concept album, I'd be delighted if they did something like Warning, I just love to see Green Day doing what they do best regardless of style etc. Yeah some albums are better than others and some songs are weak, but even the weak songs i appreciate as much as i do the strongs, i just love listening to Green Day. Next album they could follow on from Nightlife and do a straight up rap album (highly unlikely XD) and I'd still love it (all be it be surprised) because it's Green Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudley dawson Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 I agree about the vocals, way too much of a filter placed on them. Same problem 21stCB had. Why put any filter on?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z J Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 The thing that really bothers me is that is seems because the band made American Idiot and also 21st Century Breakdown, people seem to think they are not allowed to play any other style of music. The reason why I love the trilogy is because it is a breath of fresh air after 21CBD and alot of it has that Nimrod/Warning era sound. It has some of their best songs as well as some of their worst songs, but people need to stop being so critical and picking everything apart and just enjoy the fucking music. Green Day will make more music, do more things. If you can write or play something better, do it. If not, stop acting like these songs are the worst things to ever come in contact with your ears. It could be MUCH worse. Really? Nimrod….? Warning? That's what you hear? I don't hear that shitty vocal filter the trilogy has on Nimrod or Warning. I also don't hear a good bass line on almost the whole trilogy. But I certainly do on Warning. And where are the harmonies?? I hear them on Nimrod and Warning but I can't on the trilogy. They sound nothing alike. Nothing. The only similarity is that they aren't rock operas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Really? Nimrod….? Warning? That's what you hear? I don't hear that shitty vocal filter the trilogy has on Nimrod or Warning. I also don't hear a good bass line on almost the whole trilogy. But I certainly do on Warning. And where are the harmonies?? I hear them on Nimrod and Warning but I can't on the trilogy. They sound nothing alike. Nothing. The only similarity is that they aren't rock operas. It depends which bits of Nimrod and Warning and which bits of the Trilogy you're comparing. Nuclear Family would sit really well between Scattered and All The Time, and Stay The Night and Uptight work really well together. But then, they're the best two songs from the Trilogy, obviously the bad songs from it are nothing in comparison to the good bits of Nimrod and Warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I agree about the vocals, way too much of a filter placed on them. Same problem 21stCB had. Why put any filter on?? AI has the filters on them as well Billie likes the filters he said something bout making his voice sound better or something to that at least But the filter fits for the production styles used on AI and 21st it doesnt fit the clean sound the trilogy used at least not at the level the filter was set at If Billie has the filter set at say level 5 it should have been set at 2 for the trilogy if at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Check this out: Holy shit, there's a MASSIVE FUCK OFF DISTORTION/DELAY FILTER ON AMERICAN IDIOT! Does it sound in any way bad? No. Why? Because it's masked by the production of the guitars, as it should be. Filters should be there, but not obvious in the full mix. That's where the Trilogy vocals fall down. The crowd noise is from the audience track on RockBand, by the way. Obviously THAT's not on the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z J Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 AI has the filters on them as wellBillie likes the filters he said something bout making his voice sound better or something to that at leastBut the filter fits for the production styles used on AI and 21st it doesnt fit the clean sound the trilogy used at least not at the level the filter was set atIf Billie has the filter set at say level 5 it should have been set at 2 for the trilogy if at allyeah all of them do, and Billie's voice is still grittier in AI most of the time then it is in trilogy. What filter did they use on WMUWSE? That is what they should use. His voice is cleaner and clearer then anything off of Insomniac, yet you can still hear the snarl and the great runs. We don't get that on the trilogy. What the heck did they do with Sweet 16? His voice sure doesn't sound like that haha, same with Stray Heart. I guess when I blame the filter, I am blaming everything about the vocal. Check this out: Holy shit, there's a MASSIVE FUCK OFF DISTORTION/DELAY FILTER ON AMERICAN IDIOT! Does it sound in any way bad? No. Why? Because it's masked by the production of the guitars, as it should be. Filters should be there, but not obvious in the full mix. That's where the Trilogy vocals fall down. The crowd noise is from the audience track on RockBand, by the way. Obviously THAT's not on the album.Listening to that, and then listening to the original. I can hear it a bit on the original, but to me that echo on the video sounds slightly longer then the actual album. Rockband and guitar hero don't usually leave the track in its original form, most of the songs sound a bit different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 yeah all of them do, and Billie's voice is still grittier in AI most of the time then it is in trilogy. What filter did they use on WMUWSE? That is what they should use. His voice is cleaner and clearer then anything off of Insomniac, yet you can still hear the snarl and the great runs. We don't get that on the trilogy. What the heck did they do with Sweet 16? His voice sure doesn't sound like that haha, same with Stray Heart. I guess when I blame the filter, I am blaming everything about the vocal. Its the same filter on WMUWSE as on the others just the level is at a different setting I know alot have said auto tune but not auto tune as his voice would have a robotic effect no matter what level But what makes it stick out so much on the trilogy is the clean production of the music since the music is not all in your face the filters stick out like a sore thumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punkfreak1414 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I think the trilogy is great, the guitar tone is great because it's new. Yes some songs should of had more distortion but not all of them. The songs I think that should of had more distortion is Stay the night, Carpe diem, Oh Love, Stray heart, the end of brutal love, Amanda, and dirty rotten bastards. And I think the drums sound great, they do get a bit repetitive at points but still sound great, I think the only thing bad about the trilogy actually the worse thing is the quiltaty of the lyrics, you can just tell that they were rushed. A lot of lines you would think of as cliche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I think the trilogy is great, the guitar tone is great because it's new. Yes some songs should of had more distortion but not all of them. The songs I think that should of had more distortion is Stay the night, Carpe diem, Oh Love, Stray heart, the end of brutal love, Amanda, and dirty rotten bastards. And I think the drums sound great, they do get a bit repetitive at points but still sound great, I think the only thing bad about the trilogy actually the worse thing is the quiltaty of the lyrics, you can just tell that they were rushed. A lot of lines you would think of as cliche. The drums are actually probably the best Green Day have done since Warning. And complaining about them being a bit repetitive is a bit pointless, considering Tré does mostly the same thing for every Green Day song ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 The drums are actually probably the best Green Day have done since Warning. Excuuuuuuse the fuck out of me, what the hell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Excuuuuuuse the fuck out of me, what the hell? This is according to my brother, he's a drummer so he knows better than me, haha. I assume you're referring to the few small parts on AI where Tré's skills shine through? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 This is according to my brother, he's a drummer so he knows better than me, haha. I assume you're referring to the few small parts on AI where Tré's skills shine through? Yeah, basically. I'm not remotely impressed by anything on the Trilogy, it's just boring. But, simple as they are, the drums totally drive American Idiot (the song), and JOS, BOBD, Novocaine and Homecoming are fucking wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z J Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 There wasn't much that stood out to me about the drumming on the trilogy. Then again I'm biased toward flashy fills. And I have no shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaïs. Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 There wasn't much that stood out to me about the drumming on the trilogy. Then again I'm biased toward flashy fills. And I have no shame. I'm a Keith Moon lover--right there with ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 There wasn't much that stood out to me about the drumming on the trilogy. Then again I'm biased toward flashy fills. And I have no shame. I'm a Keith Moon lover--right there with ya. You mean Missing You isn't complex enough for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Big Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Fell For You should have been a single. Like, I can imagine that song on the radio. I think it would have done better than Oh Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Kid-X Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 My conclusion from this thread is that actually, 21CBD is massively underrated. I love the trilogy too but, come on.. you can't just bluntly say it's better than AI and 21CBD >< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 It's probably because for once the drums were the strongest part of a GD album The overall sound was good, Tré got a drum solo for the first time in nearly a decade, and he got to mix it up a hell of a lot more than he did on 21stCB and most of AI. Maybe my brother is biased though because the drums are right at the front of the mix, which is very unusual for GD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 It's probably because for once the drums were the strongest part of a GD album The overall sound was good, Tré got a drum solo for the first time in nearly a decade, and he got to mix it up a hell of a lot more than he did on 21stCB and most of AI. Maybe my brother is biased though because the drums are right at the front of the mix, which is very unusual for GD. Or maybe he's just not the oracle of drumming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Or maybe he's just not the oracle of drumming Eh, maybe. I think he just really hates the production on AI and 21stCB because Tré and Mike got completely buried in the mix. He loves his bass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Eh, maybe. I think he just really hates the production on AI and 21stCB because Tré and Mike got completely buried in the mix. He loves his bass. Yeah, that's the one thing I've always hated about AI. If Mike had actually been allowed to play anything but root notes everyone's heads would have imploded at the sheer brilliance of the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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