Spike Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I'm not sure where else it would've fit. Well, I am—they should've scrapped The Forgotten and made Brutal Love the outro instead—but in terms of just shuffling tracks without removing anything I think it has to be the beginning. I guess so. It was kind of subversive for them to open the album with it, so I can appreciate that. But after the disappointment of Dos I don't think they were in any position to try and subvert our expectations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudley dawson Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 Okay, you have to be trolling us. You have to be. Please say you're trolling? I'm not. It's a good song, but it's essentially a Sam Cooke cover, and I generally don't care for when bands "sample" existing songs (i.e. Oasis using Bang a Gong on their first album). I'd much rather hear something that is entirely the band's own. Oh and for those who don't like the guitar tone, what tone could possibly make X-Kid sound any better? That song is absolutely perfect musically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjaded Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 No. The trilogy sounds so flat. The lyrics are rambling nonsense and there was clearly no quality control. Even if it was 1 album, there are not enough good songs to fill an album. Bang on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I'm not. It's a good song, but it's essentially a Sam Cooke cover, and I generally don't care for when bands "sample" existing songs (i.e. Oasis using Bang a Gong on their first album). I'd much rather hear something that is entirely the band's own. Oh and for those who don't like the guitar tone, what tone could possibly make X-Kid sound any better? That song is absolutely perfect musically. Does it matter if it's sampled though? If a song sounds good it sounds good. They've got plenty of original material for us to listen to, it's not like they rip off 100% of their music. Oh, wait. The guitar tone on X-Kid is fantastic, no question. That doesn't automatically mean it's a suitable tone for other songs on the Trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyHandGrenade Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I'm not. It's a good song, but it's essentially a Sam Cooke cover, and I generally don't care for when bands "sample" existing songs (i.e. Oasis using Bang a Gong on their first album). I'd much rather hear something that is entirely the band's own. Oh and for those who don't like the guitar tone, what tone could possibly make X-Kid sound any better? That song is absolutely perfect musically. A generic, blanket decision is no way to go about creating 3 unique albums, with 37 distinct songs that should benefit from different tones, guitars, and amps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munns6691 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I hear no real similarities between Brutal Love and the Cooke song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I'm not. It's a good song, but it's essentially a Sam Cooke cover, and I generally don't care for when bands "sample" existing songs (i.e. Oasis using Bang a Gong on their first album). I'd much rather hear something that is entirely the band's own. Oh and for those who don't like the guitar tone, what tone could possibly make X-Kid sound any better? That song is absolutely perfect musically. To be honest, X Kid could have done with a tad more distortion on the chorus. As good as that song is, there's a real emptiness between the guitar and backing vocals, and that doesn't sound good on an epic song like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterThanAir Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I do think the trilogy is under rated and I don't know why people hate it so much, but compared to their other work, it is not better than anything else. I like it because it sounds sort of different from what they've done before (in my opinion) but it definitely cannot beat American Idiot or anything. My two least favourite Green Day songs (the two songs I really can't get through) are from the trilogy. Apart of me feels like a lot of the lyrics were rushed as opposed to the lyrics for American Idiot which seem a lot more well planned and sound amazing. Let's get real, the lyrics for Little Boy Named Train (my second least favourite Green Day song) are so pathetic I can't help but laugh. Sorry for rambling, but yeh, it doesn't deserve so much hate, but it's no where near their best work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Disappearing Boy Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I hear no real similarities between Brutal Love and the Cooke song The vocal melody is definitely the same, I guess that's why Cooke was credited. Musically speaking, the chord progression is different, so the melody is the only similarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexandra_1039 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 heeeeey i actually like the forgotten... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyHandGrenade Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 To be honest, X Kid could have done with a tad more distortion on the chorus. As good as that song is, there's a real emptiness between the guitar and backing vocals, and that doesn't sound good on an epic song like that. That idea just made me realize how X-Kid is like the poppy cousin of Basket Case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 That idea just made me realize how X-Kid is like the poppy cousin of Basket Case Yeah, the riff is just a combination of Who Wrote Holden Caulfield? and Basket Case. Usually that sort of thing irritates me but X-Kid is probably one of the best put together songs on the Trilogy so I'm fine with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Yeah, the riff is just a combination of Who Wrote Holden Caulfield? and Basket Case. Usually that sort of thing irritates me but X-Kid is probably one of the best put together songs on the Trilogy so I'm fine with it. The X-Kid riff is also just a rocked up version of Thinking Of You by Katy Perry. Which is probably why it's so good I've found another production issue with the Trilogy. You can't hear it on the CD/MP3s, but I've got a FLAC rip of the vinyl and the delay on the snare is noticeable to the point of being really intrusive. It's probably really minor but now I've noticed it it's giving me a headache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastard of 1969 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 The X-Kid riff is also just a rocked up version of Thinking Of You by Katy Perry. What? I don't see any resemblance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I've found another production issue with the Trilogy. You can't hear it on the CD/MP3s, but I've got a FLAC rip of the vinyl and the delay on the snare is noticeable to the point of being really intrusive. It's probably really minor but now I've noticed it it's giving me a headache. I have the vinyls and they sound good to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 What? I don't see any resemblance. The chord progressions are the same, and the chord voicings are quite unusual but exactly the same in both songs. The only real difference is the rhythm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudley dawson Posted January 28, 2014 Author Share Posted January 28, 2014 How did none of these albums get nominated for any Grammys? They all were worthy of album of the year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Disappearing Boy Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Oh, wait. If anyone wants some entertainment this Tuesday afternoon, then read the comments on this post. It's a good laugh How did none of these albums get nominated for any Grammys? They all were worthy of album of the year! Because the people who made the nominations weren't high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon Light Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 And the Trilogy has that fucking tambourine. OH MY GOD THIS!!!!! I didn't notice it at first, but once I did I just couldn't ignore it. It's so annoying, especially during Lazy Bones. I have no idea why no one's mentioned it before but I'm so relieved that it's not just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 OH MY GOD THIS!!!!! I didn't notice it at first, but once I did I just couldn't ignore it. It's so annoying, especially during Lazy Bones. I have no idea why no one's mentioned it before but I'm so relieved that it's not just me. Ceadog never stops banging on about it to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I actually love the tambourine in Lazy Bones, along with the clapping sound. Never really noticed it at first (so thanks Ceadog!) but it's raised my opinion of the song, there's something awesome about it having that happy clap along quality to it alongside the depressing lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 The tambourine would be fine if it wasn't on every single song on the three albums. How did none of these albums get nominated for any Grammys? They all were worthy of album of the year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invention Convention Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 The reason I think the trilogy didn't go down too well - and I think this true for Insomniac, Nimrod and Warning is because it didn't connect with people AS WELL as Dookie and AI did. Dookie connected with teens around the world. American Idiot connected with most around the world. The trilogy was songs from a completely new environment. A lot more personal - which is a very good thing to have in records, but if you're not a die hard fan, and more "casual" This is not what you'd expect from Green Day and therefore, because of the politics of American Idiot, the 3 records were discarded. That's what I think anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexandra_1039 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 IN. MY. OPINION. the perfect album out of the trilogy: in no particular order: nuclear family loss of control let yourself go walk away brutal love lazy bones stray heart stay the night missing you x-kid 99 revolutions DRB carpe diem honorable mentions: i actually really like sex drugs and violence, lady cobra, makeout party and amy edit: i forgot ashley, that would be on there too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Great: Nuclear Family -- Great opening track. Classic Green Day with a more mature vibe Stay the Night -- Classic Green Day sound Let Yourself Go -- Fast-paced and dirty. Could have been better with a stronger guitar sound Oh Love -- A bit slow, but great vocals and guitar See You Tonight -- Not really a song, but a cool intro Stop When the Red Lights Flash -- Garagey Green Day sound Lazy Bones -- Great song, but could benefit from better guitars and less tambourine Wild One -- Great song, but could be cut down a bit Stray Heart -- Very catchy Wow Thats Loud -- A love the jam session ending. Catchy overall Amy -- Like a garage lullaby Brutal Love Missing You 8th Ave Serenade X-Kid Dirty Rotten Bastards Decent: Carpie Diem Kill the DJ Rusty James Fuck Time Makeout Party Baby Eyes Nightlife Lady Cobra Walk Away Amanda 99 Revolutions Sex Drugs Violence Bad Fell for You -- Catchy chorus, but otherwise filler Troublemaker -- Cool lyrics, but very repetitive and annoying "heys" Loss of Control -- Filler Angel Blue -- Filler Sweet 16 -- Filler Ashley -- Filler Drama Queen A Little Boy Named Train -- Just no The Forgotten -- Bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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