The Disappearing Boy Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 With better lyrics and production, Kill the DJ might've had a shot. Typifies the problem with a number of songs on the trilogy - nice idea, poorly executed. Kill the DJ is different, interesting, has a funky guitar riff, good solo, nice lyrics and a decent melody, but is let down by a boring and repetitive chorus with gratuitous swearing. The only reason I can think for that is that the song is supposed to be a critique of modern music, where boringness, repetitiveness and gratuitous swearing are rife, but unfortunately, there are myriad songs in the trilogy which are boring and repetitive, so Kill the DJ loses some of its essence because of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Teller Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 The Trilogy is not underrated at all, but there are some underrated songs like Wild One and 8th Avenue Serenade. I remember when I saw the videos on youtube from Echoplex I was so excited about these songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaïs. Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I'm getting tired of many of you slamming the production for sounding "weak". It sounds very un-weak to me, with guitars, bass, and drums that really hit. Oh and you can actually make out each instrument, unlike another album that shall go unnamed lol. Well, it is, so we're going to keep doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE THE X-KID Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I actually don't think the guitar tone is weak at all. It's very punchy and bright. In your face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Pretty sure a guitar tone is something you can't have an opinion on. It is what it is. And it's weak, echoey, and generally unmemorable in every way apart from it's awfulness. I'd even go so far as to say the tones on 1,039/SOSH are better. At least you actually notice the guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudley dawson Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 Pretty sure a guitar tone is something you can't have an opinion on. It is what it is. And it's weak, echoey, and generally unmemorable in every way apart from it's awfulness. I'd even go so far as to say the tones on 1,039/SOSH are better. At least you actually notice the guitar. Actually it sounds like classic Green Day. So yes, you can have an opinion on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Actually it sounds like classic Green Day. So yes, you can have an opinion on it. It really doesn't. Whether you regard "classic Green Day" as Dookie or AI, both of those albums are distinguished by their powerful distortion laden guitar riffs. The closest we get to that on the Trilogy is the chorus of Lazy Bones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyHandGrenade Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 It really doesn't. Whether you regard "classic Green Day" as Dookie or AI, both of those albums are distinguished by their powerful distortion laden guitar riffs. The closest we get to that on the Trilogy is the chorus of Lazy Bones. I agree. When I Come Around with trilogy tone - no thanks. I've yet to find a song I like less Dookiefied than normal with Uno Dos and Tre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khris Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 When I think of amazing Green Day guitar tones, I think of Before The Lobotomy. I can never get enough of how powerful every instrument sounds in that song. It just hits you once the drums kick in and doesn't stop till it's over. Awesome track and mixing right there. I think that Oh Love and Brutal Love has the closest direction and sound to what I wanted and expected from Green Day post 21st Century Breakdown. Though I dunno what else to say since Darth Praxus here pretty much put every single thought of the trilogy I have here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritz Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 The trilogy has its ups and downs, I think. But it has some great songs. Under-rated? Yes. 8th Ave serenade, Wild One, LBNT! I like those stuff but they haven't got much praise or limelight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE THE X-KID Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Pretty sure a guitar tone is something you can't have an opinion on. It is what it is. And it's weak, echoey, and generally unmemorable in every way apart from it's awfulness. I'd even go so far as to say the tones on 1,039/SOSH are better. At least you actually notice the guitar. But isn't that your opinion? Haha because I think the guitar tone is very powerful and I'm glad they did something different for a change. They could have just used Marshall stacks and les Paul juniors again but they didn't, they experimented with vox amps, Gretsch's and danelectro's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 But isn't that your opinion? Haha because I think the guitar tone is very powerful and I'm glad they did something different for a change. They could have just used Marshall stacks and les Paul juniors but they didn't, they experimented with vox amps, Gretsch's and danelectro's. What you hear is what you hear. That'd be like seeing Billie Joe standing in front of the mike at a live show and never moving and saying that it was better showmanship than when he legs it around the stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwise Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Well you can obviously have an opinion on a guitar tone, haha. I don't think it's weak and echoey. I like it a lot and it suits most of the songs very well in my opinion. And it's something different that they tried, which I think is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 That's quite a worrying thought. They're just messing with us now. I remember seeing that scratchy video of Kill the DJ and being blown away. Then the single came out and I was like "Oh...cool..." The trilogy has its ups and downs, I think. But it has some great songs. Under-rated? Yes. 8th Ave serenade, Wild One, LBNT! I like those stuff but they haven't got much praise or limelight. Little Boy Named Train is one of those songs that you cry over and try to forget you ever listened to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagelfeet Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Pretty sure a guitar tone is something you can't have an opinion on. It is what it is. And it's weak, echoey, and generally unmemorable in every way apart from it's awfulness. I'd even go so far as to say the tones on 1,039/SOSH are better. At least you actually notice the guitar. yes, you can have an opinion on it. Just because you don't like the tone doesn't mean someone else can't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaïs. Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 yes, you can have an opinion on it. Just because you don't like the tone doesn't mean someone else can't There's a difference between your liking the tone, which is subjective, and acknowledging that it's weak, which is objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagelfeet Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 There's a difference between your liking the tone, which is subjective, and acknowledging that it's weak, which is objective. ok but it's not like I'm denying what it sounds like. The fact that I like it makes it my own opinion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE THE X-KID Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Does anyone else think the vocals on Kill the DJ sound so much better on that Cuatro clip? The one that plays after tre says "hold him underwater till that motherfucker drowns" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfterShock Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 There are about 10 songs I think, that if properly produced and written more thoroughly, would've made a great SINGLE album: Nuclear Family, Stay The Night, Let Yourself Go, Kill the DJ, Stray Heart, Lazy Bones, Missing You, 8th Ave. Serenade, X-Kid, Brutal Love, DRB. I guess that's 11, but I think all of these songs have great potential at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE THE X-KID Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 There are about 10 songs I think, that if properly produced and written more thoroughly, would've made a great SINGLE album: Nuclear Family, Stay The Night, Let Yourself Go, Kill the DJ, Stray Heart, Lazy Bones, Missing You, 8th Ave. Serenade, X-Kid, Brutal Love, DRB. I guess that's 11, but I think all of these songs have great potential at the very least. I agree except from maybe DRB. Stay the night though, that could have been huge. I'd even go as far to say i hope they put it on their next album, re recorded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfterShock Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I agree except from maybe DRB. Stay the night though, that could have been huge. I'd even go as far to say i hope they put it on their next album, re recorded. It's killer live. If any trilogy song becomes a setlist staple, I hope it's that one. As much as I love X-Kid, it didn't work live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Bras Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Sometimes you guys are such hipocrites... At first, when the record comes out on September 2012 you were all like: 'OMFG, THIS IS SO AMAZING, BEST SHIT EVER' (also it was like this on DOS! and TRÉ!)... And now you are massively hatin' on the trilogy... IMO I really enjoyed the trilogy, all three records were a fresh and pure, you can barely feel the fun they have doing the albums.. (Also, I disagree with AI being worst than the trilogy HAHA, American Idiot is American Idiot). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Sometimes you guys are such hipocrites... At first, when the record comes out on September 2012 you were all like: 'OMFG, THIS IS SO AMAZING, BEST SHIT EVER' (also it was like this on DOS! and TRÉ!)... And now you are massively hatin' on the trilogy... IMO I really enjoyed the trilogy, all three records were a fresh and pure, you can barely feel the fun they have doing the albums.. (Also, I disagree with AI being worst than the trilogy HAHA, American Idiot is American Idiot). It's perfectly normal to freak out about new music from your favourite band, then later realise that it doesn't have much replay value because it's not that great. That's not hypocrisy, it's just critical listening and a willingness to adapt one's opinion after further thinking. I, for one, didn't listen to Tre until about 3 months after it came out, because of how disappointed I was in Uno and Dos. And I'm a massive fan, so make of that what you will. Luckily Tre turned out to be a strong album, but if I wasn't a fanatic to start with I'd never have even bothered listening to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Bras Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 It's perfectly normal to freak out about new music from your favourite band, then later realise that it doesn't have much replay value because it's not that great. That's not hypocrisy, it's just critical listening and a willingness to adapt one's opinion after further thinking. I, for one, didn't listen to Tre until about 3 months after it came out, because of how disappointed I was in Uno and Dos. And I'm a massive fan, so make of that what you will. Luckily Tre turned out to be a strong album, but if I wasn't a fanatic to start with I'd never have even bothered listening to it. I just can't understand how some people dislike songs like Stay the Night, Fell For You, Rusty James, SWTRLF, Wild One, Stray Heart, Amy, Brutal Love, Missing You or X-Kid. Those songs are genuinely fantastic and can be compare to big hits from AI or Dookie in my opinion. I'm agree is not they're greatest records but it doesnt deserve that amount of hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I just can't understand how some people dislike songs like Stay the Night, Fell For You, Rusty James, SWTRLF, Wild One, Stray Heart, Amy, Brutal Love, Missing You or X-Kid. Those songs are genuinely fantastic and can be compare to big hits from AI or Dookie in my opinion. I'm agree is not they're greatest records but it doesnt deserve that amount of hate. The problem with the Trilogy is that it's so huge and sprawling with so little quality control that it's possible to like a lot of the songs without thinking the project as a whole is good. I absolutely love Nuclear Family, Stay The Night, Missing You, X-Kid and Brutal Love, and think Drama Queen, Sex Drugs & Violence, Dirty Rotten Bastards, 99 Revolutions and Fuck Time are pretty good. That's 10 songs that I like, which would be fantastic for a normal album. But it leaves 27 songs that I don't like, so I can't possibly think the Trilogy is very good. Any project that has nearly 30 songs that I just don't want to listen to is a failure in my eyes. I've said all along, if it was one album made up of the best 10-14 songs it'd be great, but that would never work because everyone has wildly differing opinions on what's best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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