Michael Mayer confirms that Billie will play the role of St Jimmy in American Idiot movie

[Chin for a Day]

2 hours ago, WhiteTim said:

I realize this is late but HBO does produce quite a few movies that go to theaters HBO Films isn’t just on HBO 

You only bumped this because you missed me and wanted to talk to me. I miss you too. 

[pacejunkie punk]

6 minutes ago, 1039Revolutions said:

This is pure speculation, but Odinary World was a financial disaster, and only made about $65,000 from Blue Ray and DVD sales.

The delay could be because they are worried that Billie as an actor doesn’t generate the interest that he does as a musician. 

Again, just a pure guess.

That wasn’t a Green Day project though, carrying the Green Day name, and St Jimmy is just a supporting role anyway. With a box office draw cast as Johnny they would attract both mainstream audiences and fans alike. Last we had heard here from @LaughingClock the project was now moving ahead as a direct result of the success of Bohemian Rhapsody. There is a demand for rock musicals with a hint of nostalgia. This film is nothing like the independent film Ordinary World and shouldn’t be compared to it.

 (Besides, I don’t know that OW was even a “disaster” as you describe. It was a low budget film shot in three weeks. Reviews for the film were so so but for Billie’s acting they were overwhelmingly positive. It’s possible the film broke even. Independent films rarely turn a profit.) 

[WhiteTim]

2 hours ago, Grubby Poop said:

You only bumped this because you missed me and wanted to talk to me. I miss you too. 

I didn’t bump the thread lol 

[Chin for a Day]

32 minutes ago, WhiteTim said:

I didn’t bump the thread lol 

You still missed me. 

[1039Revolutions]

3 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said:

That wasn’t a Green Day project though, carrying the Green Day name, and St Jimmy is just a supporting role anyway. With a box office draw cast as Johnny they would attract both mainstream audiences and fans alike. Last we had heard here from @LaughingClock the project was now moving ahead as a direct result of the success of Bohemian Rhapsody. There is a demand for rock musicals with a hint of nostalgia. This film is nothing like the independent film Ordinary World and shouldn’t be compared to it.

 (Besides, I don’t know that OW was even a “disaster” as you describe. It was a low budget film shot in three weeks. Reviews for the film were so so but for Billie’s acting they were overwhelmingly positive. It’s possible the film broke even. Independent films rarely turn a profit.) 

I don’t know if many movies that have multiple A-List stars can profit from $65,000 in revenue lol. My guess is that movie cost 2-4 million to make. 

They might have made a good amount from Netflix, but under 10,000 DVD and Blue Ray sales is terrible.

[pacejunkie punk]

7 minutes ago, 1039Revolutions said:

I don’t know if many movies that have multiple A-List stars can profit from $65,000 in revenue lol. My guess is that movie cost 2-4 million to make. 

They might have made a good amount from Netflix, but under 10,000 DVD and Blue Ray sales is terrible.

We’ll just have to agree to disagree. I don’t believe that movie cost nearly that much, it was very low budget with a decent cast but no one was paid A list money to be in it. 

[WhiteTim]

1 hour ago, 1039Revolutions said:

I don’t know if many movies that have multiple A-List stars can profit from $65,000 in revenue lol. My guess is that movie cost 2-4 million to make. 

They might have made a good amount from Netflix, but under 10,000 DVD and Blue Ray sales is terrible.

Where did you get the sales number? Universal Home Video doesn’t release those numbers to the public (or at least it didn’t...)

[1039Revolutions]

9 minutes ago, WhiteTim said:

Where did you get the sales number? Universal Home Video doesn’t release those numbers to the public (or at least it didn’t...)

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Ordinary-World#tab=summary

There’s the link with the financials there.

I’m not saying these low numbers are delaying AI, but I do know the executives that invest in these projects look at how much these stars are generating, and might be weary that Billie can’t generare interest in his acting at the same level of his music. 

The high praise he received for his acting won’t matter as much if nobody gave a crap enough to watch the movie lol.

Hopefully Tom Hanks can find a way to put himself in the movie 🙂

[pacejunkie punk]

1 minute ago, 1039Revolutions said:

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Ordinary-World#tab=summary

There’s the link with the financials there.

I’m not saying these low numbers are delaying AI, but I do know the executives that invest in these projects look at how much these stars are generating, and might be weary that Billie can’t generare interest in his acting at the same level of his music. 

The high praise he received for his acting won’t matter as much if nobody gave a crap enough to watch the movie lol.

Hopefully Tom Hanks can find a way to put himself in the movie 🙂

But this is a musical film, the draw is the music. I don’t see what Billie’s potential draw as an actor has to do with it when he’s not primarily an actor and he wouldn’t be the lead anyway. It’s a singing role and that’s the draw.  People would see it because it’s Green Day music. There was no Green Day in OW so again I don’t see what one film has to do with the other. 

[1039Revolutions]

9 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

But this is a musical film, the draw is the music. I don’t see what Billie’s potential draw as an actor has to do with it when he’s not primarily an actor and he wouldn’t be the lead anyway. It’s a singing role and that’s the draw.  People would see it because it’s Green Day music. There was no Green Day in OW so again I don’t see what one film has to do with the other. 

Obviously Green Day and Billie Joe Armstrong will be a huge part of the focus of the entire project, and I’m just saying that the delay is likely caused because of financial reasons.

Im not saying that the sales for OW mean anything, but it’s likely that people who research investing tons of money into films look at all these things, and clearly Billie related movie projects don’t generate the same level of interest as his music.. that’s all I’m saying.. just an opinion!

[Montclare]

Not to mention there will be less interest in it if he's not in it.  Look at the Broadway numbers.  

[WhiteTim]

10 minutes ago, 1039Revolutions said:

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Ordinary-World#tab=summary

There’s the link with the financials there.

I’m not saying these low numbers are delaying AI, but I do know the executives that invest in these projects look at how much these stars are generating, and might be weary that Billie can’t generare interest in his acting at the same level of his music. 

The high praise he received for his acting won’t matter as much if nobody gave a crap enough to watch the movie lol.

Hopefully Tom Hanks can find a way to put himself in the movie 🙂

I wouldn’t exactly trust that site 100% on numbers (not that OW nessicarly did in fact sale more copies) 

But OW isn’t a Green Day movie nor was it promoted as one hell it barely got a theater release OW has no bearing on the hold ups on AI 

[1039Revolutions]

1 minute ago, WhiteTim said:

I wouldn’t exactly trust that site 100% on numbers (not that OW nessicarly did in fact sale more copies) 

But OW isn’t a Green Day movie nor was it promoted as one hell it barely got a theater release OW has no bearing on the hold ups on AI 

I totally agree with you.. AI I think would be massive, and the broadway numbers were pretty spectacular, especially when Billie was on..

im just saying that film investors have line ups of movies to be made that are gurenteed profitable blockbusters, and when they see the last Billie Joe lead role generated $65k, and nobody cares to see it,  film related projects attached to him might be put on the back burner for a while.. but I could be wrong though!

 

[pacejunkie punk]

15 minutes ago, 1039Revolutions said:

Obviously Green Day and Billie Joe Armstrong will be a huge part of the focus of the entire project, and I’m just saying that the delay is likely caused because of financial reasons.

Im not saying that the sales for OW mean anything, but it’s likely that people who research investing tons of money into films look at all these things, and clearly Billie related movie projects don’t generate the same level of interest as his music.. that’s all I’m saying.. just an opinion!

I think the holdup was in getting a script everyone was happy with considering it went through many rewrites. But I’m not saying there weren’t financial reasons too. I just don’t think OW had anything to do with it. They for sure would have had discussions over whether they thought the movie would be a financial success, as is evidenced by the fact that based on the success of the Queen movie it is now going ahead. But the comparisons would be made to similar musical films based on rock bands, not an independent acting side project by one of the band’s members. 

[Chin for a Day]

41 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

I think the holdup was in getting a script everyone was happy with considering it went through many rewrites. But I’m not saying there weren’t financial reasons too. I just don’t think OW had anything to do with it. They for sure would have had discussions over whether they thought the movie would be a financial success, as is evidenced by the fact that based on the success of the Queen movie it is now going ahead. But the comparisons would be made to similar musical films based on rock bands, not an independent acting side project by one of the band’s members. 

Where are you getting your information that it is going ahead based on the Queen movie? I follow some movie industry websites and the status of the movie has not changed in almost a year. It is still listed as Development Unknown. 

[Slave To The Network]

I just hope that there is still a plan for Billie to play St. Jimmy if this movie is actually ever going to happen.

[pacejunkie punk]

17 minutes ago, Grubby Poop said:

Where are you getting your information that it is going ahead based on the Queen movie? I follow some movie industry websites and the status of the movie has not changed in almost a year. It is still listed as Development Unknown. 

Sorry that was based on @LaughingClock ‘s info in the other thread about the movie (at least that’s where I thought it was, can’t find it now. Maybe he can confirm).

[Chin for a Day]

6 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said:

Sorry that was based on @LaughingClock ‘s info in the other thread about the movie (at least that’s where I thought it was, can’t find it now. Maybe he can confirm).

OK so there is no confirmation on it. I couldn't find any current information. 

[DeJennsitized]

I don't really get why Bohemian Rhapsody would have a bearing on the decision anyway. It was a biopic. American Idiot, though it will have GD music, is not actually about Green Day. 

[Billie Hoe]

7 minutes ago, DeJennsitized said:

I don't really get why Bohemian Rhapsody would have a bearing on the decision anyway. It was a biopic. American Idiot, though it will have GD music, is not actually about Green Day. 

It can be, if you use English Teacher Bullshit Interpretation Skills (tm) and apply everything in American Idiot to Billie's life 

[DeJennsitized]

5 minutes ago, Billie Hoe said:

It can be, if you use English Teacher Bullshit Interpretation Skills (tm) and apply everything in American Idiot to Billie's life 

The casual fans might think it literally is Billie's life and they'll wonder when the band part comes in

[Beerjeezus]

8 minutes ago, DeJennsitized said:

The casual fans might think it literally is Billie's life and they'll wonder when the band part comes in

I can't wait to watch the baffled reactions when these people find out Billie hasn't actually shot himself.

on a serious note though, I don't think anyone expected OW to make a fortune. It was an independent movie, didn't really get much of a theater play and Billie Joe isn't that much of a celebrity to attract attention outside the gd fanbase

[Chin for a Day]

43 minutes ago, DeJennsitized said:

I don't really get why Bohemian Rhapsody would have a bearing on the decision anyway. It was a biopic. American Idiot, though it will have GD music, is not actually about Green Day. 

I don't either. Not only are the movies totally different, the bands are totally different. I don't see how they would have any bearing on each other. Plus, as much as I adore GD, Queen is a little bit higher on the overall popularity list and I would imagine the studio would expect a larger audience. 

28 minutes ago, Jane Lannister said:

 

on a serious note though, I don't think anyone expected OW to make a fortune. It was an independent movie, didn't really get much of a theater play and Billie Joe isn't that much of a celebrity to attract attention outside the gd fanbase

I agree. I seriously doubt there were any expectations to make money on that film. Someone said the film was full of A listers, but it really wasn't. The closest was Selma Blair and she pretty much has been a supporting player her whole career so really not an A lister. I'm sure the film cost more than 65K but I don't think it cost much to make.  

[pacejunkie punk]

1 hour ago, DeJennsitized said:

I don't really get why Bohemian Rhapsody would have a bearing on the decision anyway. It was a biopic. American Idiot, though it will have GD music, is not actually about Green Day. 

I don’t think people saw BR in such numbers because it was a biopic (and it barely was since most of the history presented was false). They saw it for the music. And the Elton John one coming next summer is also showcasing the music. Likewise, audiences would see AI for the music. 

[DeJennsitized]

53 minutes ago, Jane Lannister said:

I can't wait to watch the baffled reactions when these people find out Billie hasn't actually shot himself.

Yes he has, I thought that was why he deleted his instagram  

10 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

I don’t think people saw BR in such numbers because it was a biopic (and it barely was since most of the history presented was false). They saw it for the music. And the Elton John one coming next summer is also showcasing the music. Likewise, audiences would see AI for the music. 

Like @Grubby Poop said, I love my band but they're not Queen/Elton John levels of fame. A lot of people saw BR for the portrayals and performances, regardless of whether it was totally accurate. Even if AI was a biopic, Billie's life isn't all that interesting to a person turning up at the movies looking for something to watch.