David Of Suburbia Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 God i hope so, i just know the short set at leeds will only whet my appetite!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muppetmark Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 God i hope so, i just know the short set at leeds will only whet my appetite!! Itll be at least 2 hours, probably 2 and a half hours so relax Buzzing for a uk arena tour if it happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ Walking Contradiction Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Used to live near Milton Keynes and according to a few guys I used to go to school with, one works building scaffolding, the other for the council. The Milton Keynes bowl are putting on 3-4 big concerts next year, wouldn't surprise me if one or two of these were Green Day doing a big 20th and 10th anniversary for Dookie and AI. This would be awesome hope it's true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlariaIDIOT Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 What about the movie, then? I will be disappointed if they will delay the 2 legs for it. Btw just my idiot opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 What about the movie, then? I will be disappointed if they will delay the 2 legs for it. Btw just my idiot opinion The movie is no where near being made. If it ever does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpsalty Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 yes exactly. they already made a loooot of dates in england this tour. of course i have no idea what he really meant but don't be sure if meant they'll come back because you might be disappointed. Three dates including reading and leeds?! That's not a looot buy no means, it's not even a tour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cath Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Three dates including reading and leeds?! That's not a looot buy no means, it's not even a tour! to me it's a lot knowing england isn't big at all and all the coutries in europe are side to side so it's easier for fans to travel from countries. i'm gonna take my example again, but there's a lot i could use, but Canada is like 2x bigger than Europe and we only got 2 dates, and europe got 27. so yes it's a lot. i'm not complaining though, i'm just explaining my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpsalty Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 to me it's a lot knowing england isn't big at all and all the coutries in europe are side to side so it's easier for fans to travel from countries. i'm gonna take my example again, but there's a lot i could use, but Canada is like 2x bigger than Europe and we only got 2 dates, and europe got 27. so yes it's a lot. i'm not complaining though, i'm just explaining my point I guess it seems weird to people outside the country, (UK, i mean) but even though it's such a small country, it's not that easy to travel across it. I saw someone say once "oh they're only ten hours away, i'm gonna go" and i was like what?! it's just not something people do, not the average joe going to a concert. Most people will only travel a couple hours for that sort of thing. (And if you use public transport it gets trickier). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iva Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 They were sixteen hours away after being 15 minutes away and I went to both. If you can afford it and have the time, you do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 I guess it seems weird to people outside the country, (UK, i mean) but even though it's such a small country, it's not that easy to travel across it. I saw someone say once "oh they're only ten hours away, i'm gonna go" and i was like what?! it's just not something people do, not the average joe going to a concert. Most people will only travel a couple hours for that sort of thing. (And if you use public transport it gets trickier). This is funny to me - considering I hear people complain about how many tour dates they have in the US, and even with 30 shows, most people will never be less than 10 hours away from them. Except for this last tour, the absolute closest they have been near me in the last 8 years is about 6 hours. And that's with tons of US shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cath Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 I guess it seems weird to people outside the country, (UK, i mean) but even though it's such a small country, it's not that easy to travel across it. I saw someone say once "oh they're only ten hours away, i'm gonna go" and i was like what?! it's just not something people do, not the average joe going to a concert. Most people will only travel a couple hours for that sort of thing. (And if you use public transport it gets trickier). travelling is the same everywhere in the world, and you guys in europe/uk are the luckiest people in that situation because as i said you've got a loooots of dates and they're all in the same spot. that's why you're reacting that way about travelling lots of hours for a show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiffyGiffy Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 travelling is the same everywhere in the world, and you guys in europe/uk are the luckiest people in that situation because as i said you've got a loooots of dates and they're all in the same spot. that's why you're reacting that way about travelling lots of hours for a show. I know what you mean but I agree with jumpsalty. Obviously there aren't secret super-fast methods of travel over in the US but the huge size of the country means that long road trips and travelling long distances are common whereas it's not here at all. Yeah we are lucky in that everything is comparatively close but I guess it must just be where cultures are different or something because if I go to a gig in London, that's like a 4-5 hour drive and I consider that to be a loooooooong way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 You guys in Europe and North America cannot complain or talk badly about distances to shows, when everyone is at an average max of 10 hours from a concert. Considering Australia is almost the same size as the US (would be close if Alaska wasn't involved) and we get less then 10 shows (if we even get one this tour I will be happy). Depending where you live you could spend days getting to the venue. So far on this tour the closest concert to me has been a 15 hour plane trip away plus travel time to and from the airports and waiting at the airport. You guys are so lucky, so be happy you are getting what you are getting, as that is better then nothing or traveling huge distances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 You guys in Europe and North America cannot complain or talk badly about distances to shows, when everyone is at an average max of 10 hours from a concert. Considering Australia is almost the same size as the US (would be close if Alaska wasn't involved) and we get less then 10 shows (if we even get one this tour I will be happy). Depending where you live you could spend days getting to the venue. So far on this tour the closest concert to me has been a 15 hour plane trip away plus travel time to and from the airports and waiting at the airport. You guys are so lucky, so be happy you are getting what you are getting, as that is better then nothing or traveling huge distances. The difference is because there's only 23 million people in Australia, compared to 313 million in the US. Meaning a few shows in Australia will reach a higher percentage of people in the country compared to a show in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cath Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 by the way to make it clear i wasn't complaining about that at all, i was just explaining something about the uk dates okay thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaz. Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I guess it seems weird to people outside the country, (UK, i mean) but even though it's such a small country, it's not that easy to travel across it. I saw someone say once "oh they're only ten hours away, i'm gonna go" and i was like what?! it's just not something people do, not the average joe going to a concert. Most people will only travel a couple hours for that sort of thing. (And if you use public transport it gets trickier). That's not strictly true, I know plenty of people round the country that travel hours for gigs because we're lucky enough to have dirt cheap buses that go all over the place. A 5 hour trip on a National express seems like a no brainer when it's less than a tenner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-the-hurting-kind Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 No offense but all respect to the UK but everyone has got to be wondering if they are 2nd legging the United States! Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtue Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 North American tour for this fall is currently being put together. Thought that was going to be Cute Internet Kitten. Can't say I'm disappointed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpsalty Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 That's not strictly true, I know plenty of people round the country that travel hours for gigs because we're lucky enough to have dirt cheap buses that go all over the place. A 5 hour trip on a National express seems like a no brainer when it's less than a tenner Yeah I guess people like us would do that, but the average joe wouldn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pule92 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I'll be kind of aggressive with this but this is the truth and I hope you guys understand my point. I love this band so much, maybe more than anyone here could imagine. I'm from Buenos Aires, Argentina. The ONE thing that I really hate about this band is that I feel they just don't care about ALL the fans. I mean, in all these years touring around the world, Green Day has done a Latin American tour TWICE, in 1998 and 2010. That's it guys. I just can't believe some of you from Europe or North America are still asking for them. Please, don't take it personally, just put yourself on one Latin American fan. This year, I was SO LUCKY to be traveling in the US while they played in Rochester, NY. And notice I wasn't visiting it. I had to take 2 flights and sleep one night there just for the gig. That one was the night of my fucking life guys. I remember being in the queue and talking with other fans and they were like "yeah, this is my 12th Green Day concert". I was like WTF I've seen them just ONCE in my country (because in 1998 I was like 6 years old). The problem is not that they don't have fans here, fuck that. In Rochester that gig was not even close to being full. I can't count how many times they tour in Europe, so carrying all the equipment is not the problem. In the Latin American tour ALL gigs were FULL. And when I mean full, I mean you can't even think to breath in that fucking crowds. I've seen pretty much all youtube videos of every fucking gig played in the last couple of tours and I am like "holy shit, they can even drink beer in the floor!" haha. I'm just disappointed that such an important band don't tour here more often while ALL the other rock bands from around the world do it. For example between September and October, in Buenos Aires bands such as The Offspring, Bruce Springsteen, Bon Jovi, Nickelback, Gogol Bordello, Iron Maiden, Slayer, Ghost, Alice In Chains, Black Sabbath, Megadeth, Aerosmith, Muse will play here. And this is not new, this happens every year. So I just can't find an excuse for Green Day not to visit us often. I hope you all guys understand my point. Long live this band that makes us so happy. Long live Green Day. Take care guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Green Day go where the people who organize their tours want them to go. The band themselves don't usually have a huge say in every place they play, because they are busy with other stuff. Even if the band gives some suggestions of where they want to go, planning a tour is incredibly complex. They choose places where it makes sense to be. It costs millions of dollars to fly their huge tour crew and equipment all over the world. Everything has to work. They need to find venues that are open and available, and be able to play them in a way that's easiest to move those crews and semi-trucks of equipment across a region. It's not as simple as "oh, I hear Argentina wants us to play there. Cool, we have a week off here, lets fly out." Sure, they COULD do that - but it's a waste of money when they could instead find a way to plan a tour across a continent in ways that make travelling easiest for the band and the crew. And lastly, it doesn't matter how many shows they play in any place - someone will always want Green Day to play closer to them. So the best they can do is plan tours in ways that make the most sense with the knowledge that they'll always piss some fans off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iva Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 travelling is the same everywhere in the world, and you guys in europe/uk are the luckiest people in that situation because as i said you've got a loooots of dates and they're all in the same spot. that's why you're reacting that way about travelling lots of hours for a show. That is true, but Europe is dead expensive compared to everywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solongfromthestars Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 People say "they have so many fans here, the whole country is waiting" but if that was true, they would be going there. If they won't sell enough tickets to make a profit or at least break even, they can't go somewhere just to please a small group of people, which is sad for them but it's not the band's fault. It's not even in their power to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pule92 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Green Day go where the people who organize their tours want them to go. The band themselves don't usually have a huge say in every place they play, because they are busy with other stuff. Even if the band gives some suggestions of where they want to go, planning a tour is incredibly complex. They choose places where it makes sense to be. It costs millions of dollars to fly their huge tour crew and equipment all over the world. Everything has to work. They need to find venues that are open and available, and be able to play them in a way that's easiest to move those crews and semi-trucks of equipment across a region. It's not as simple as "oh, I hear Argentina wants us to play there. Cool, we have a week off here, lets fly out." Sure, they COULD do that - but it's a waste of money when they could instead find a way to plan a tour across a continent in ways that make travelling easiest for the band and the crew. And lastly, it doesn't matter how many shows they play in any place - someone will always want Green Day to play closer to them. So the best they can do is plan tours in ways that make the most sense with the knowledge that they'll always piss some fans off. Well this is what I thought I'll happen. You missed my point. I'm gonna respond by points because I'll be a mess if not. 1- Green Day goes where the people who organize their tours want them to go. Well that's true and I'm not criticizing that. I mean Green Day's been a worlwide band since their release of Dookie. It's been 19 years since then. I think they have plenty of time to plan more than 2 latin america tours. 2- I know how complex is to plan a tour. I have more than one friend who work in the musical companies (I don't know what's the english for that, in spanish is productora musical) that bring bands here and I know that more than one have been trying to negotiate with them and it's a fucking pain in the ass. 3- Yeah, it cost millions of dollars to fly their huge tour crew and all that stuff but are you saying they don't have the money to do it and make a profitable tour of it? Come on dude, I know better than you how many fans are waiting here and in all Latin America and how full their gigs where in 2010 (not only in Argentina). 4- About venues and their availability. Latin America has PLENTY of huge venues around. A couple examples could be Lollapalooza in Chile, Rock in Rio last year, Rock in Rio in 2014 in Argentina (which is also the exact place where Green Day played in 2010). Venues and availability is definitely not the problem, trust me. 5 and last. Argentina is not Ghana in Africa. Latin America is fucking full of fans waiting and I'd not be disappointed if they can't tour here and also other bands can't do it. Just Google who many worldwide bands (and also not well know but they also do it) tour in Latin America every fucking year and don't tell me that bullshit stuff that they can't do (or at least it's difficult to them) and other bands (bigger and smaller than Green Day) do. I don't expect you to understand me and Latin American fans because the thing is that you simply can't put yourself in our shoes. Also sometimes it's not about defending every aspect of your favourite band. Sometimes something like "yeah, I don't know why they don't do it more often while many many other bands do it" is enough. This is not personal with any of you guys, we share the same fanaticism about this band. Just believe me it's very frustrating not to have the chance to see them play live more often. Take care! People say "they have so many fans here, the whole country is waiting" but if that was true, they would be going there. If they won't sell enough tickets to make a profit or at least break even, they can't go somewhere just to please a small group of people, which is sad for them but it's not the band's fault. It's not even in their power to do that. Please please don't tell me if my country or Latin America is waiting for them or not. EVERY fucking gig they played in 2010 in Latin America were FULL, completely FULL. On the other hand, I've been to Rochester gig this year and and the floor was not even close to be HALF FULL. It's not as simple as "if the whole country is waiting for them, they would be going there". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solongfromthestars Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 But it's not as if the band isolates specific countries on purpose. It's based on statistics that their management have, not biases that Billie, Mike or Tre have. None of us have their statistics in front of us so even if we think we know that they'd make a profit or have good reasons to play somewhere, we can't say that for sure. Either way, it's still out of the band's control so you can't blame them. Also I wasn't attacking you or referring to you specifically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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