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"After The Disappointment of "Uno!, Dos!, Tre!" has Green Day Lost Some of Their Popularity?"


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I have trouble wrapping my head around the concept that Green Day has lost popularity. I mean, they did just set the attendance record for Emirates Stadium right? Maybe their mainstream popularity has dipped, but even then mainstream popularity has a really thin threshold. Green Day is a legacy band that has an absolutely massive fanbase, it's not like they're some cult band that sells 2 records and then tours everywhere struggling to pull audiences. Even if the Trilogy underperformed, they've sold out pretty much every show this tour, and we all know how quickly this tour has been sent out.

Don't take this the wrong way, but Green Day has reached a point in their career where they can be irrelevant and still be relevant. I'm not sure if that makes sense.

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Don't take this the wrong way, but Green Day has reached a point in their career where they can be irrelevant and still be relevant. I'm not sure if that makes sense.

Translating, they have a lot of fans it doesn't matter if they release a new album or not

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I have trouble wrapping my head around the concept that Green Day has lost popularity. I mean, they did just set the attendance record for Emirates Stadium right? Maybe their mainstream popularity has dipped, but even then mainstream popularity has a really thin threshold. Green Day is a legacy band that has an absolutely massive fanbase, it's not like they're some cult band that sells 2 records and then tours everywhere struggling to pull audiences. Even if the Trilogy underperformed, they've sold out pretty much every show this tour, and we all know how quickly this tour has been sent out.

Don't take this the wrong way, but Green Day has reached a point in their career where they can be irrelevant and still be relevant. I'm not sure if that makes sense.

I think I know what you mean. They're so big that being mainstream seems... cheap almost? They have such a huge and dedicated fanbase that mainstream media isn't even necessary to chart with a TRILOGY of albums, which they did.

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I think I know what you mean. They're so big that being mainstream seems... cheap almost? They have such a huge and dedicated fanbase that mainstream media isn't even necessary to chart with a TRILOGY of albums, which they did.

I gave you your 300 rep! And yes they have such a huge fanbase that it doesn't matter if they don't are in the mainstreams

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I gave you your 300 rep! And yes they have such a huge fanbase that it doesn't matter if they don't are in the mainstreams

Thanks! XD It was really awesome coming back to that!

...I should really get out more.

But on topic, I can't think of any current group that can sell a show as big as them while promoting an album that was a commercial flop in every way.

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If what you're trying to convey that the trilogy was a disappointment due to the band's promotion, then you should really choose your words better.

The trilogy is far from a disappointment. In fact, it's a masterpiece, in my opinion. Not many bands can write an album, yet alone three+ albums, and still have all of the songs sound very unique and different.

I do agree that the band should have done some more promoting, especially during their free time, but that's where the tour comes into play. I definitely do not agree with you assuming that the band has lost popularity. The band is definitely popular still. Hell, look at how they've been doing so far on the tour.

The numbers don't lie. ;)

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Translating, they have a lot of fans it doesn't matter if they release a new album or not

No, it doesn't matter if they have another huge hit. They'll continue to release albums as long as they want to, it's what they do. This is the band that released 3 full length LPs in a market that doesn't buy LPs. Quality still matters, but at this point 20+ years into their musical careers they don't really have to sell millions of albums. And yet they can still strap on their gear, go on tour, and fill out massive arenas around the world.

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I have faith that Green Day still have at least one more number one hit left in them..... Maybe Billie is writing up as we speak a really badass tune.. The whole rehab situation is fantastic writing inspiration!

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No, it doesn't matter if they have another huge hit. They'll continue to release albums as long as they want to, it's what they do. This is the band that released 3 full length LPs in a market that doesn't buy LPs. Quality still matters, but at this point 20+ years into their musical careers they don't really have to sell millions of albums. And yet they can still strap on their gear, go on tour, and fill out massive arenas around the world.

I agree. Very well said.

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i really don't think the trilogy would have fared much better even if they had done more promotion. that's the shitty state of mainstream music right now.

Mainstream music is fucking terrible at the moment. It all sounds the same, especially with Pitbull and that Flo Rida guy. I hate those guys.

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Thanks! XD It was really awesome coming back to that!

...I should really get out more.

But on topic, I can't think of any current group that can sell a show as big as them while promoting an album that was a commercial flop in every way.

Think again. U2's 360 Tour was the highest grossing/attended tour of all time, unless I'm mistaken, which supported No Line on the Horizon - their weakest album commercially since Pop or even October

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Jesus...who cares about the commercial success of the trilogy? when's it's flop then it's flop..who cares..they're still popular...it's not about the money..it's about sending a message..as Mike said..if they care about the commerical success of the albums..they wouldn't even be together..i think GD has already created a legacy so calculating how albums sold is not important

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I won't say the trilogy was a flop to me, personally..

It has some great songs and some songs that appeal to me a lot.

Commercially, it might have failed but I don't think the band cares about it that much. But yeah, I'd love to see them promote the trilogy even more on an international level.

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I think as long as they have a loyal fanbase Green Day will continue making music.

And even if it's not comercial, I think my grandchildren would know who Green Day was. The made such a big Impact with Dookie and American Idiot, so it doesn't really matter if ithe trilogy was not as commercial as some people wanted.

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I could care less if the Trilogy was a commercial "flop", if that's the only reason to make music is to try and hit the #1 Spot on Billboard Top 100, then you're not making music for the right reasons. Green Day took a major risk recording three albums and releasing them in quick succession, but when I think of Rock N Roll music, I think of risk, and Green Day has always been a band that has played by there own rules. So there albums didn't sell in massive #'s like "American Idiot" or "Dookie" did, they still sell out stadiums and arena's everywhere they play, and they still put on marathon long show's and best of all, they all love to play music for a living, which to me, is a lot cooler than selling a shit load of albums.

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The trends of the music industry are constantly changing. Generally speaking, the rock genre is not very popular at the moment, so of course the trilogy didn't do as well as American Idiot, when rock was highly popular. Add the fact that the band couldn't promote the trilogy, and the "lack of popularity" of the trilogy is easily explained.

I agree with those saying that at this point, Green Day can be irrelevant and still be relevant (which is a great comment btw). They've had two huge peaks in their career, which is more than most bands experience. They're still playing huge shows. They have a fucking musical based off their album touring the world. In terms of mainstream music they're not anywhere near as popular as they were 9 years ago, but who is?

The thing about Green Day is that EVERYONE knows their songs, whether they realize it or not. Their songs are classic. They have already cemented their status as a band built to last. Commercial success depends on trends, but their music has already surpassed that.

So, to answer the question - yes, they have lost popularity - mainstream popularity. But really, they lost that with 21CB. They lost it as soon as they were done promoting American Idiot. That's just how it works with popular music. It's not a reflection of the quality of their work or their success as a band.

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It may not seem like it, but Oh Love was still a bigger hit in the US than Minority.

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My personal opinion, if you don't like it, don't read it ;)

which disappointment? for me, every single record is a masterpiece, from 1.039 smoothed out slappy hours till tré!. the success of American Idiot was not only because of the huge fanbase who bought the record. sure Green Day didn't sell as much of the trilogy records than of American Idiot. but who cares? if the trilogy would have been as successful as American Idiot it wouldn't be right because of 'they sold out'. which is, in my eyes, definately not true. Green Day never sold out. if they did, we do the same day by day by waking up, going to work, earn money, spend it on our living... I'm sick of hearing they sold out :dry:

As long as the musical quality doesn't suffer, I will accept everything they release. Even though I don't like every single song (for ex. nightlife) I look up to their courage to try new things, they are not afraid to fali. I really apreceate that! You can be a fan of something/someone without worshipping everything it/they do.

I don't care about what music magazins say or others think about Green Day but stop beating them down (nice 'music journalists' for ex.). no one is forced to listen and like Green Day.

That just has to be said^^

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Uno Dos Tre was not a disappointment. It has some great songs but ultimately suffered due to poor single choices. Oh Love was the only song that recived a bit of promotion. If that much promotion went into a better lead single things may have turned out differently. I think X-Kid should have been on Uno and should have been its lead single.

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I'm not disappointed with Uno Dos and Tre (other than bad promotion I suppose but that was to be expected), and Green Day are still selling out massive stadiums, so there's no problem as far as I'm concerned. They don't have the current, mainstream, trendy popularity that they've had with some past albums, but does that matter? They're still a huge, legendary band with the pulling power to play anywhere they want, release anything they want, and do anything they want. That's a lot more important than being number one in the charts.

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Emirates - 60,000 people and broke an attendance record; Rock im Park - 75,000 people; Rock am Ring - 85,000 people. I think that's a clear indication of their current popularity, at least in Europe, just saying. That's playing to over 220,000 people in three dates alone.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

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They're still a huge, legendary band with the pulling power to play anywhere they want, release anything they want, and do anything they want. That's a lot more important than being number one in the charts.

Thank you! I love them for being themselves, for being Green Day and not for being number one in the charts.

love you for this sentence!

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They played in front of 62.000 people two weeks ago breaking the attendance record of Emirates and headline festivals all over Europe. Is that what they call "loss of popularity"?

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They can't have a comeback into the spotlight without being thrown out of it first.

Thankfully, the world doesn't treat Green Day with blind admiration, and that gotta keep them on their toes.
Luckily I don't need television or other popular demand outlets to know what Green Day is up to, I have direct sources like GDA and thousands of steady fans, so I'll just hang on to the band and see where they'll be going, record by record.

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