Chin for a Day Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 I love it so much more without the guyliner. Yes, his eye looks more green with the guyliner, but I just love the natural look. His eyes are so much more expressive natural. And you can actually notice other features more, such as the length of his lashes and shape of his eye brows. I guess what I'm saying is with guyliner you are drawn to his eyes, but without you notice his whole face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedundantIdiot Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 1 minute ago, JJ1964 said: I love it so much more without the guyliner. Yes, his eye looks more green with the guyliner, but I just love the natural look. His eyes are so much more expressive natural. Agreed. I thought he had stopped wearing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenXIdiot Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 I think he wears eyeliner as stage make up, but also because he likes it. There's even early (he's in his early 20's, before AI) Green Day pictures floating around where he's wearing it, because he likes it. He used to bum it off of girls. I kind of like it myself, to me it means "Green Day" because it's not like he goes around in it all the time like he used to, but for pictures and performing it's kind of hot. It's like we get to see another side of him, the part that will stay young forever. Even though he's technically too old for it based on arbitrary cultural standards, he doesn't give a damn and does what he wants. That attitude is sexy to me. Also, to me it makes him looks beautiful and mysterious, like old silent movie actors. IMO, He's equally beautiful without eyeliner, and with eyeliner. 42 minutes ago, Whatsername_123 said: I found this image which shows him with and without eyeliner I love both, very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedundantIdiot Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 15 minutes ago, GenXIdiot said: His eyes look more natural without it, but it can look good during shows. But like @JJ1964said it can detract from the rest of his face- but it depends on how much he's wearing. Example 1: This eyeliner in the corner of his eyes is ok Example 2: Although he looks so cute in this picture, he is wearing too much eyeliner. It looks like he used a paint brush to apply it And what does 'bum it off of girls' mean?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenXIdiot Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Just now, Whatsername_123 said: His eyes look more natural without it, but it can look good during shows. But like @JJ1964said it can detract from the rest of his face- but it depends on how much he's wearing. Example 1: This eyeliner in the corner of his eyes is ok Example 2: Although he looks so cute in this picture, he is wearing too much eyeliner. It looks like he used a paint brush to apply it Yes I agree the amount he uses can make a difference. It looks really nice in the new selfie, I think. Kind of smudged and imperfect. The way he had it for the Trilogy pictures was a little to neat and pretty for my taste. From your lovely examples, The first picture looks nice. The second picture, it's too much, it looks painted on and it's distracting. I like it more punky and messy, like the selfie, or how he had it for HOF last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 23 minutes ago, GenXIdiot said: I think he wears eyeliner as stage make up, but also because he likes it. There's even early (he's in his early 20's, before AI) Green Day pictures floating around where he's wearing it, because he likes it. He used to bum it off of girls. I kind of like it myself, to me it means "Green Day" because it's not like he goes around in it all the time like he used to, but for pictures and performing it's kind of hot. It's like we get to see another side of him, the part that will stay young forever. Even though he's technically too old for it based on arbitrary cultural standards, he doesn't give a damn and does what he wants. That attitude is sexy to me. Also, to me it makes him looks beautiful and mysterious, like old silent movie actors. It was his signature style, 12 years ago. As gorgeous as he looked in that selfie, it almost makes me question the direction of the album. The guy liner is not a style that will appeal to a generally older audience, it is a very young persons kind of appeal. They are in their mid-40's now and I was expecting them to target that type of audience with the new album. I can't see them appealing largely, to a much younger audience like they used too. Most teenagers don't find 44 year old men attractive, there are exceptions, like my favorite teenager who is not my daughter, Jane Lannister (who also took the last name of my favorite GAme of Thrones character). I may have incorrectly assumed they would be targeting an older audience. Now I may be jumping to conclusions and be 100% wrong. So we will have to wait and see. I do see the appeal of the silent movie actors, so Rudolph Valentino. 14 minutes ago, Whatsername_123 said: His eyes look more natural without it, but it can look good during shows. But like @JJ1964said it can detract from the rest of his face- but it depends on how much he's wearing. Example 1: This eyeliner in the corner of his eyes is ok Example 2: Although he looks so cute in this picture, he is wearing too much eyeliner. It looks like he used a paint brush to apply it And what does 'bum it off of girls' mean?! Agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenXIdiot Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 I don't know if he cares about targeting anyone, he might just wear it because he likes it. I think at this point in their career, creating an album and a style is more about artistic and personal expression, more than reaching target demographics and making as much money as possible. . But you're right, Warner wants to make lots of money, and I'm sure Green Day does, too. We'll see how they market this thing. The make up definitely catches the teenager attention. When I showed videos of BOBD and 21 Guns in piano class, they loved the eyeliner. 6 minutes ago, JJ1964 said: It was his signature style, 12 years ago. As gorgeous as he looked in that selfie, it almost makes me question the direction of the album. The guy liner is not a style that will appeal to a generally older audience, it is a very young persons kind of appeal. They are in their mid-40's now and I was expecting them to target that type of audience with the new album. I can't see them appealing largely, to a much younger audience like they used too. Most teenagers don't find 44 year old men attractive, there are exceptions, like my favorite teenager who is not my daughter, Jane Lannister (who also took the last name of my favorite GAme of Thrones character). I may have incorrectly assumed they would be targeting an older audience. Now I may be jumping to conclusions and be 100% wrong. So we will have to wait and see. I do see the appeal of the silent movie actors, so Rudolph Valentino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedundantIdiot Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 10 minutes ago, JJ1964 said: I'm not sure he's targeting any particular age group. I don't really find it that appealing, but I don't care as I love their music. I can see how other people, particularly older music fans, would be put off by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 49 minutes ago, GenXIdiot said: I don't know if he cares about targeting anyone, he might just wear it because he likes it. I think at this point in their career, creating an album and a style is more about artistic and personal expression, more than reaching target demographics and making as much money as possible. . But you're right, Warner wants to make lots of money, and I'm sure Green Day does, too. We'll see how they market this thing. The make up definitely catches the teenager attention. When I showed videos of BOBD and 21 Guns in piano class, they loved the eyeliner. Trust me the record company cares about targeting the right audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizziebix Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 I love everything about him with guyliner and dark hair. *slinks back out before the neg replies* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenXIdiot Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 21 minutes ago, lizziebix said: I love everything about him with guyliner and dark hair. *slinks back out before the neg replies* No I'm with you I love everything about him with eyeliner and dark hair too. He's just breathtaking in that selfie. I'm glad I'm not the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizziebix Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, GenXIdiot said: No I'm with you I love everything about him with eyeliner and dark hair too. He's just breathtaking in that selfie. I'm glad I'm not the only one. You're not. I just don't say it out loud very often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amberwhite Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Kinda has a St. Jimmy aesthetic, don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenXIdiot Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 7 minutes ago, amberwhite said: Kinda has a St. Jimmy aesthetic, don't you think? A little, but softer and more beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 The only look I've ever disliked on him was the very short hair from Macy's Day Parade video. I can't think of anything else that I really strongly disliked. I agree with my older and wiser friend Judi, the eyeliner look suggests they are going for teenage audiences like with AI and 21CB. It worked amazingly in 2004, but worse in 2009 and I doubt the same aesthetic would succeed again now. I'm afraid the days of them being the band with thousands of teenage fangirls are gone. It's a few of us in this thread but I don't think they'll have audiences of screaming girls on the next tour. My biggest wish is that they would target older audiences, try to move on to classier style, finally become mature and make it obvious. This picture suggests this isn't what they are going for. On the other hand, they'll probably won't attract nowadays kids' attention anyway so if he wears eyeliner or not is rather circumstantial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaBJA Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 the new pic of bille omg!!!! so beautiful...his hair black again oh and he uses eyeliner again right?? i love the pic..its so awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizziebix Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 28 minutes ago, Jane Lannister said: The only look I've ever disliked on him was the very short hair from Macy's Day Parade video. I can't think of anything else that I really strongly disliked. I agree with my older and wiser friend Judi, the eyeliner look suggests they are going for teenage audiences like with AI and 21CB. It worked amazingly in 2004, but worse in 2009 and I doubt the same aesthetic would succeed again now. I'm afraid the days of them being the band with thousands of teenage fangirls are gone. It's a few of us in this thread but I don't think they'll have audiences of screaming girls on the next tour. My biggest wish is that they would target older audiences, try to move on to classier style, finally become mature and make it obvious. This picture suggests this isn't what they are going for. On the other hand, they'll probably won't attract nowadays kids' attention anyway so if he wears eyeliner or not is rather circumstantial. I kind of disagree. I think the guyliner is part of his rock 'n roll image. Kind of like the makeup Kiss uses. It's just a part of who he is when proforming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, lizziebix said: I kind of disagree. I think the guyliner is part of his rock 'n roll image. Kind of like the makeup Kiss uses. It's just a part of who he is when proforming. Kiss stopped wearing make up years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 1 minute ago, JJ1964 said: Kiss stopped wearing make up years ago Did they? It's become so known that I didn't notice they stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizziebix Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 25 minutes ago, JJ1964 said: Kiss stopped wearing make up years ago 21 minutes ago, Jane Lannister said: Did they? It's become so known that I didn't notice they stopped. Exactly. They are known for their makeup whether they wear it or not. Just like Billie's guyliner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatsername Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 I am happy with the guyliner and i don't see why anyone is surprised it's back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenXIdiot Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 38 minutes ago, LisaBJA said: the new pic of bille omg!!!! so beautiful...his hair black again oh and he uses eyeliner again right?? i love the pic..its so awesome I agree, he's just so beautiful, all dressed up, thick black hair, sexy smudgy eyeliner...he looks DELICIOUS I can't stop looking at that picture. If it that look is the new "Era" it's fine with me. 8 minutes ago, lizziebix said: Exactly. They are known for their makeup whether they wear it or not. Just like Billie's guyliner. Right, he doesn't wear it all the time, so why not for special occaisions? It's so hot. 8 minutes ago, whatsername said: I am happy with the guyliner and i don't see why anyone is surprised it's back. I love it too, and I'm not suprised. He wore it at the HOF just last year and looked gorgeous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatsername Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 8 minutes ago, GenXIdiot said: I love it too, and I'm not suprised. He wore it at the HOF just last year and looked gorgeous. True. It's a part of the look, i would be kind of disappointed if he stopped haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 30 minutes ago, lizziebix said: Exactly. They are known for their makeup whether they wear it or not. Just like Billie's guyliner. Yes, but the point is that Kiss realized they got to a point where they were too old for the make up, just like Billie's guylineri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatsername Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 But they are in their 60's and used more makeup, so i think that is fair enough if they wanted to stop. It's not the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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