Hermione Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Here's one. I never want them to stop playing King For A Day/Shout live, and I LOVE it when they make it last for ages. I don't care how many other songs they could play instead, I'd rather see them doing that for 10 minutes than see them play two more other songs. It will always be my favourite part of the show, I'll never get bored of it however many times I see it, and the longer they make it last the better.6. Jesus of suburbia is damn good songThis is the number one most popular Green Day related opinion on GDC and in the world With you on #2 though! Well tied with 21st CB and the Trilogy anyway (I'm bad at choosing). Actually just realized my 3 tied favourite Green Day albums are all unpopular favourites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyChunks Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Here's an opinion that I think will be very unpopular with fellow fans...I disagree with much of Green Day's politics, even though I love their music and the fact that they are political. Maybe it seems contradictory, but I feel like some of their very best work is political even though I don't always agree with the message. For example, I think Holiday is an absolutely flawless song and an incredibly important one in that Billie was able to so brilliantly articulate a strong political message through the lyrics. Additionally, I was thrilled and blown away by the sweeping, passionate political message conveyed by American Idiot as a whole, even though I don't personally agree with their opinions. Strange, isn't it? For some reason I've always been able to separate political beliefs from personal feelings about friends (most of which have opposite political views than mine) and music. As odd as it may seem, I am very happy Green Day has found its political voice even though I don't personally agree with their views on a number of positions. Sometimes I feel like the minority (pun intended), but I'd rather have a band or person take a passionate, well thought-out political position even if it's contrary to mine than take no position or an apathetic one altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
localinsomniac Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Pasalacqua was incredible, and the entire setlist was fantastic. We had some real gems in the setlist, and Lupo's was one of the best local venues to see a show- and an incredible place to see a band as big as Green Day. I also saw Weezer play there on the Pinkerton tour (I'm sure you were possibly at this show as well). Superdrag was absolutely destroyed by the audience, and I felt bad for them up to the point where they mailed it in and didn't even sing the chorus on their only hit- "Sucked Out'. The lead singer stepped back so the audience could sing the chorus, and nobody did. It was a really awkward opening act! Unfortunately, no- I have yet to see Weezer live, and didn't really get into them until many years later. Thinking about Superdrag (name seems appropriate in a way, now) made me wonder how bad Pansy Division must have had it as GD's opener a few years earlier. Where are you from, anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Here's an opinion that I think will be very unpopular with fellow fans...I disagree with much of Green Day's politics, even though I love their music and the fact that they are political. Maybe it seems contradictory, but I feel like some of their very best work is political even though I don't always agree with the message. For example, I think Holiday is an absolutely flawless song and an incredibly important one in that Billie was able to so brilliantly articulate a strong political message through the lyrics. Additionally, I was thrilled and blown away by the sweeping, passionate political message conveyed by American Idiot as a whole, even though I don't personally agree with their opinions. Strange, isn't it? For some reason I've always been able to separate political beliefs from personal feelings about friends (most of which have opposite political views than mine) and music. As odd as it may seem, I am very happy Green Day has found its political voice even though I don't personally agree with their views on a number of positions. Sometimes I feel like the minority (pun intended), but I'd rather have a band or person take a passionate, well thought-out political position even if it's contrary to mine than take no position or an apathetic one altogether. But there's bugger-all politics on American Idiot? Apart from Holiday, the only explicitly political song on the album, it's mainly about a kid struggling to find themselves in the modern world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eva Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Here's one. I never want them to stop playing King For A Day/Shout live, and I LOVE it when they make it last for ages. I don't care how many other songs they could play instead, I'd rather see them doing that for 10 minutes than see them play two more other songs. It will always be my favourite part of the show, I'll never get bored of it however many times I see it, and the longer they make it last the better.This is the number one most popular Green Day related opinion on GDC and in the world With you on #2 though! Well tied with 21st CB and the Trilogy anyway (I'm bad at choosing). Actually just realized my 3 tied favourite Green Day albums are all unpopular favourites. Is Nimrod an unpopoular album? Unfortunately, no- I have yet to see Weezer live, and didn't really get into them until many years later. Thinking about Superdrag (name seems appropriate in a way, now) made me wonder how bad Pansy Division must have had it as GD's opener a few years earlier. Where are you from, anyway? Do you mean Pansy Division was unpopular? Because I've read statements from Green Day biographies, Green Day, and Pansy Division that Pansy Division was well-liked while they were opening for Green Day. Edit: Until Pansy Division screamed out "Have y'all figured out that we're a bunch of fags?!" in the middle of their set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
localinsomniac Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Is Nimrod an unpopoular album? Do you mean Pansy Division was unpopular? Because I've read statements from Green Day biographies, Green Day, and Pansy Division that Pansy Division was well-liked while they were opening for Green Day. Edit: Until Pansy Division screamed out "Have y'all figured out that we're a bunch of fags?!" in the middle of their set. No, I just wondered how crowds responded to a very much out-of-the-closet band. Nothing to do with their music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyChunks Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Unfortunately, no- I have yet to see Weezer live, and didn't really get into them until many years later. Thinking about Superdrag (name seems appropriate in a way, now) made me wonder how bad Pansy Division must have had it as GD's opener a few years earlier. Where are you from, anyway? I grew up in North Attleboro and now live just west of Boston...you? I also went to college in state as well (both undergrad and grad)...proudly a lifelong MA resident! But there's bugger-all politics on American Idiot? Apart from Holiday, the only explicitly political song on the album, it's mainly about a kid struggling to find themselves in the modern world. Well, there's also the fact that the album and lead song were both titled "American Idiot" as direct commentary on Bush and his policies. The whole album, while maintaining something of a linear storyline as you point out, absolutely has an overriding political theme. I know this is a discussion for another thread, but I thought it was generally accepted that it was a political album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I grew up in North Attleboro and now live just west of Boston...you? I also went to college in state as well (both undergrad and grad)...proudly a lifelong MA resident! Well, there's also the fact that the album and lead song were both titled "American Idiot" as direct commentary on Bush and his policies. The whole album, while maintaining something of a linear storyline as you point out, absolutely has an overriding political theme. I know this is a discussion for another thread, but I thought it was generally accepted that it was a political album. AI has it political moments (escp the title track and Holiday) but I dont see it as much of one as I've seen others say like some say "I dont like AI it's way too political they went overboard with the politics" (not so much on GDC but on other boards and such and I'm like it's really not as political as some make it out to be it's not like a Rage Against The Machine or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrouch33 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Here's an opinion that I think will be very unpopular with fellow fans...I disagree with much of Green Day's politics, even though I love their music and the fact that they are political. Maybe it seems contradictory, but I feel like some of their very best work is political even though I don't always agree with the message. For example, I think Holiday is an absolutely flawless song and an incredibly important one in that Billie was able to so brilliantly articulate a strong political message through the lyrics. Additionally, I was thrilled and blown away by the sweeping, passionate political message conveyed by American Idiot as a whole, even though I don't personally agree with their opinions. Strange, isn't it? For some reason I've always been able to separate political beliefs from personal feelings about friends (most of which have opposite political views than mine) and music. As odd as it may seem, I am very happy Green Day has found its political voice even though I don't personally agree with their views on a number of positions. Sometimes I feel like the minority (pun intended), but I'd rather have a band or person take a passionate, well thought-out political position even if it's contrary to mine than take no position or an apathetic one altogether. actually I think its great you can separate beliefs and music in that manner, I truly envy you! hahah on the other hand like Ceadog was pointing out theres not a noticeable political message in American Idiot, actually the main character in the album is mad and confused mainly because he feels he lacks some self-satisfying beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iRun Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I actually enjoy 21st Century Breakdown. Some people on here act likes it's the fucking devil or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I think that the whole "AI is a calling out of Bush" may have been true, but overall, I think the political message of that album/song got WAY overstated in 2004-05. It came out at such a time when there was a large movement in popular culture to get rid of Bush, and Bush-bashing was still seen as rebellious, since the Natalie Maines controversy was only about 16 months prior. It was a good move, publicity-wise to wear those Bush masks and to take a photo with John Kerry and whatnot. But in hindsight, the album really isn't stuck in a political moment. I think it's more sociopolitical than political. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eva Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I think that the whole "AI is a calling out of Bush" may have been true, but overall, I think the political message of that album/song got WAY overstated in 2004-05. It came out at such a time when there was a large movement in popular culture to get rid of Bush, and Bush-bashing was still seen as rebellious, since the Natalie Maines controversy was only about 16 months prior. It was a good move, publicity-wise to wear those Bush masks and to take a photo with John Kerry and whatnot. But in hindsight, the album really isn't stuck in a political moment. I think it's more sociopolitical than political. Exactly! It does have political undertones and is outright political with Holiday and American Idiot, but in the overall scheme of things, it really isn't. Plus, if people consider American Idiot extremely political, I can recommend political punk bands that would make them shit their pants. American Idiot's political qualities compared to a lot of other punk or rock bands' material is nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather. Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Here's an opinion that I think will be very unpopular with fellow fans...I disagree with much of Green Day's politics, even though I love their music and the fact that they are political. Maybe it seems contradictory, but I feel like some of their very best work is political even though I don't always agree with the message. For example, I think Holiday is an absolutely flawless song and an incredibly important one in that Billie was able to so brilliantly articulate a strong political message through the lyrics. Additionally, I was thrilled and blown away by the sweeping, passionate political message conveyed by American Idiot as a whole, even though I don't personally agree with their opinions. Strange, isn't it? For some reason I've always been able to separate political beliefs from personal feelings about friends (most of which have opposite political views than mine) and music. As odd as it may seem, I am very happy Green Day has found its political voice even though I don't personally agree with their views on a number of positions. Sometimes I feel like the minority (pun intended), but I'd rather have a band or person take a passionate, well thought-out political position even if it's contrary to mine than take no position or an apathetic one altogether. I applaud this and totally relate, on a different level. I'm liberal and generally take no issue with Green Day's politics (although Billie is right in being self-conscious about his 10th grade education, because I *don't* think he writes very intellectual lyrics about politics. I do agree that Holiday is an exception and the lyrics are brilliant and make a strong point.), but I listen to music that I so wildly have no connection to, also I love Christian rock as much as I love Bad Religion, and I'm a Jew When I feel the passion behind someone's belief in what they're singing, it doesn't matter to me that I don't think Jesus is the Lord or I don't think devil worship is a good idea, if you sing it to me with all your heart and soul, I'll respect that. Hell, I've been obsessively listening to "Thank God I'm a country boy" by John Denver lately, a song that is basically going on about how a hick loves his woman and his fiddle and all that, about as bad as that "Proud to be a redneck" thing Billie was shitting on. And I'm not a country boy, I'm a city girl, but I love country music because the people singing it genuinely believe in the messages they are conveying /Rant Cheers to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eva Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Hell, I've been obsessively listening to "Thank God I'm a country boy" by John Denver lately, a song that is basically going on about how a hick loves his woman and his fiddle and all that, about as bad as that "Proud to be a redneck" thing Billie was shitting on. And I'm not a country boy, I'm a city girl, but I love country music because the people singing it genuinely believe in the messages they are conveying /Rant Cheers to you! Rednecks, dear God, no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Dee Dee Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 21st century breakdown is my least favorite green day album it has a few decent songs but not enough for me to like. I also hate the song little boy named train i can not stand it. I don't know why so many people dislike Extraordinary girl i think it's a fine song it isn't great but it doesn't deserve so much hate. I also think Mike Dirnt must be a kinda boring person, i also can't stand Jason White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdlyon Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 21st century breakdown is my least favorite green day album it has a few decent songs but not enough for me to like. I also hate the song little boy named train i can not stand it. I don't know why so many people dislike Extraordinary girl i think it's a fine song it isn't great but it doesn't deserve so much hate. I also think Mike Dirnt must be a really boring person, i also can't stand Jason White. Jason White barely even has a personality that we can see. How can you say you can't stand him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Dee Dee Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Jason White barely even has a personality that we can see. How can you say you can't stand him? That's why i can't stand him he needs to be more out there and have more fun out stage not just stand and play guitar he should have fun and the rest of the band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather. Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 That's why i can't stand him he needs to be more out there and have more fun out stage not just stand and play guitar he should have fun and the rest of the band. Who are we to say that Jason isn't having fun? He seems like he really enjoys himself, he just doesn't have the outlandish personalities that Tre and Billie have. For that matter, I'd say that Mike demonstrates about the same amount of on-stage joy as Jason does. They're both just really into their instruments. Besides, it's not Jason's job to go nuts and ask for attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeysturkeyhead Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 21st century breakdown is my least favorite green day album it has a few decent songs but not enough for me to like. I also hate the song little boy named train i can not stand it. I don't know why so many people dislike Extraordinary girl i think it's a fine song it isn't great but it doesn't deserve so much hate. I also think Mike Dirnt must be a kinda boring person, i also can't stand Jason White. Do you think Mike seems boring?! And who are you to judge that? Who are we to say that Jason isn't having fun? He seems like he really enjoys himself, he just doesn't have the outlandish personalities that Tre and Billie have. For that matter, I'd say that Mike demonstrates about the same amount of on-stage joy as Jason does. They're both just really into their instruments. Besides, it's not Jason's job to go nuts and ask for attention. Mike has as much on-stage joy as Jason?! Jason stands in the same position all the time, while Mike runs around all over the stage! So Billie and Tré has more outstanding personalities than Mike? eh no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPhil Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I actually enjoy 21st Century Breakdown. Some people on here act likes it's the fucking devil or something. 21st CB is a VERY GOOD album, I don't care what other people say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanket Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 To me, the trilogy seems like following the "Quantity over Quality" thought express... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akshat Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 The trilogy has some of the best songs Green Day has ever made.I would say 6 out of their 15 best songs.Brutal Love, Dirty Rotten Bastards,X-Kid,The Forgotten,99 Revolutions and Kill the DJ are just amazing. To be honest, I can't think of one Green Day song that I don't like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPhil Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 The trilogy has some of the best songs Green Day has ever made.I would say 6 out of their 15 best songs.Brutal Love, Dirty Rotten Bastards,X-Kid,The Forgotten,99 Revolutions and Kill the DJ are just amazing. To be honest, I can think of one Green Day song that I don't like. Not even Sex, Drugs & Violence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musso_kn Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 The trilogy has some of the best songs Green Day has ever made.I would say 6 out of their 15 best songs.Brutal Love, Dirty Rotten Bastards,X-Kid,The Forgotten,99 Revolutions and Kill the DJ are just amazing. To be honest, I can think of one Green Day song that I don't like. Not even Sex, Drugs & Violence? Or Walk Away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 There's nothing wrong with Walk Away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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