Andrew Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Am I the only one who likes Take Back?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaraGreenDay Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Am I the only one who likes Take Back?! No, i like Take Back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I actually LOVE Take Back haha. It's like Green Day's version of Sum 41's song A.N.I.C. Just a fast punk song you can mosh to and go crazy. I honestly don't see why most people don't like it. xD No, i like Take Back Always good to know we're not alone hey guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaniluau Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I'm with Heather on the Nimrod boat. It's always been the album I love least, and I'm perplexed as to why so many deem it their favorite. It lacks cohesion, resulting in a disc that sounds more like a collection of random cuts than a studio album. I also think "Nimrod sound" as a descriptor is a massive copout. When we were first hearing trilogy songs, I remember people describing the material as "a hybrid of Warning, Nimrod, and 21CB". Well thanks, that really helps me imagine a distinct sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaraGreenDay Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Always good to know we're not alone hey guys! Oh yes and hey!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwise Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 It's not so much that I don't like Nimrod, it's that I don't *understand* it as an album Nimrod is my second or third favorite GD album. People say it lacks cohesion, but I don't think it really does...most of the songs DO actually have a similar vibe, and the outliers (Take Back, King For A Day, Good Riddance) really do fit in IMO. I think an album that contains 18 tracks need to have some variety. Also, I can understand you disliking Take Back, but Haushinka!? I think that's one of the best songs Billie's written, haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J of Suburbia Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 And Nimrod is the only album I don't listen to straight through, ever. Same here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyChunks Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I'm with Heather on the Nimrod boat. It's always been the album I love least, and I'm perplexed as to why so many deem it their favorite. It lacks cohesion, resulting in a disc that sounds more like a collection of random cuts than a studio album. I also think "Nimrod sound" as a descriptor is a massive copout. When we were first hearing trilogy songs, I remember people describing the material as "a hybrid of Warning, Nimrod, and 21CB". Well thanks, that really helps me imagine a distinct sound. Well, aside from being a fantastic album (in my purely subjective opinion, of course), I think Nimrod was hugely important in that it represented a clear departure in creative approach from the band's previous major label offerings. In widening its range of influences to include thrash (Platypus and Take Back), ska (KFAD), surf rock (Last Ride In) and folk (Good Riddance), Green Day was acknowledging its desire and need to expand outside of the comfort zone it had established on Dookie and Insomniac. I don't think you would have seen the musical evolution that took us to rock opera and present day Green Day without the experimentation found in Nimrod. Sure, the album may seem to lack overall cohesion in some respects as a result, but I think it was hugely important that the band took these risks at that stage of its career. Thus, Nimrod was a very important album and a very, very successful one from that standpoint.Nimrod is my second or third favorite GD album. People say it lacks cohesion, but I don't think it really does...most of the songs DO actually have a similar vibe, and the outliers (Take Back, King For A Day, Good Riddance) really do fit in IMO. I think an album that contains 18 tracks need to have some variety. Also, I can understand you disliking Take Back, but Haushinka!? I think that's one of the best songs Billie's written, haha. Same here- Haushinka has always been one of those songs that has just done it for me. Like Scattered, I think Haushinka was one of the non-single gems off the album. I also really like the Jinx-Haushinka transition...similar to Chump/ Longview, Holiday/ BOBD, or Novacaine/ She's a Rebel. I'm just a real sucker for songs that segue into each other like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdlyon Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Am I the only one who likes Take Back?! Love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather. Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Well, aside from being a fantastic album (in my purely subjective opinion, of course), I think Nimrod was hugely important in that it represented a clear departure in creative approach from the band's previous major label offerings. In widening its range of influences to include thrash (Platypus and Take Back), ska (KFAD), surf rock (Last Ride In) and folk (Good Riddance), Green Day was acknowledging its desire and need to expand outside of the comfort zone it had established on Dookie and Insomniac. I don't think you would have seen the musical evolution that took us to rock opera and present day Green Day without the experimentation found in Nimrod. Sure, the album may seem to lack overall cohesion in some respects as a result, but I think it was hugely important that the band took these risks at that stage of its career. Thus, Nimrod was a very important album and a very, very successful one from that standpoint. Yes, this is why I appreciate Nimrod--it was a crossroads for sure and a turning point in their evolution. That's the same reason it's hard for me to get on board with it, it's such a transition album between the old great and the new great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatVince Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I agree with what DannyDirnt said in the previous page. I'd take ¡Dos! over American Idiot any time, any day (any wayyyyyyyyyy, any wherrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeee...sorry). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eva Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I wouldn't. American Idiot means a lot to me in a nostalgic way. Plus, I think the music and lyrics have way more depth to them than anything on Dos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kripack Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I'm just here to say that Roshambo by The Network is a fucking great song. I wish they performed it as Green Day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stories and songs Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 ^ I'll second that. I absolutely love that song, its fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDirnt Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 How anyone could choose Dos and Tré over American Idiot is beyond me O_O Oh well everyone has their opinion I guess. Because I dislike the AI - 21st CB style. I can listen to those albums, but barely ever do. ¡Dos! however is to me perfect, but for the uncreative lyrics. If you add AI deep lyrics to ¡Dos! sound you get imo a perfect album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I guess this is the right time but I really don't like The Network. Foxboro Hottubs on the other hand, I fucking love them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musso_kn Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Speaking of Take Back, Billie should scream/growl more often. A whole record of screamers (maybe going completely hardcore for the first time ever) would be fascinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Speaking of Take Back, Billie should scream/growl more often. A whole record of screamers (maybe going completely hardcore for the first time ever) would be fascinating. I would love that but can't see it happening! He'd probably mess his voice up if he screamed too often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musso_kn Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I would love that but can't see it happening! He'd probably mess his voice up if he screamed too often. How, though? If it meant he got used to singing in a deeper nasally voice again I'm all for it. His voice is technically a lot better now and sounds lovely in places, but it's lost some of it's aggression, which would be much more effective on a track like, say, Let yourself go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE THE X-KID Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I prefer 21st Century Breakdown to American Idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 "Am I the only one who likes Take Back?" Really? It's on the second post of the first page. Ah I see that now, I hadn't read the first page before, this thread was on about page 50 when I joined so just skipped to there. Good to see lots of love for the song anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stories and songs Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 They're both amazing albums, but I think I do like 21CB more than AI. I just admire the writing on 21CB so much, along with all of the different sounds featured on that album. There isn't one song from this album that I don't like, actually, so I'm always surprised to hear people say they don't like it very much. I think its brilliant. The themes that run through it are fantastic, and even though it isn't necessarily a linear story, I like the themes talked about in 21CB a little more than AI. Not to put down AI, because that has brilliant writing as well. Hugely unpopular opinion: I'm really not crazy about Foxboro Hottubs. I like the music and enjoy listening to it and all, but I don't like the whole "sex, drugs, and rock 'n roll"schtick that goes along with it. I'm boring, I know. Sorry. I promise I'm not a prude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 How, though? If it meant he got used to singing in a deeper nasally voice again I'm all for it. His voice is technically a lot better now and sounds lovely in places, but it's lost some of it's aggression, which would be much more effective on a track like, say, Let yourself go. Screaming tears on your throat Ie Kurt Cobain if he lived who knows how much longer he'd been able to sing after the last show the doc said his vocals were beyond shredded due to how he sang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invalid. Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I agree. I just... SO agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyHandGrenade Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I'm just here to say that Roshambo by The Network is a fucking great song. I wish they performed it as Green Day... Replace that with Reto, and I'm all good. That guitar riff is SOOO CATCHY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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