DannyDirnt Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Eww no. The trilogy is good the way it is. I wouldn't scrap anything, but for a few songs here and there (mostly ¡Uno! songs). I wouldn't have condesnsed them into one album. Maybe two long ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 The trilogy is fine should be three cds not one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather. Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 On the subject on them hating Blink, our boys have a lot of friends whose bands they dislike. Billie Joe is good friends with Fat Mike, for instance, but he doesn't like NOFX. Blink and Green Day got really close on the Pop Disaster Tour, but they were annoyed by the constant comparisons and the media's attempt to create a rivalry between the two (that fans, like us, just ate up). They may not like Blink's music but that doesn't mean they hate those dudes, from what I understand they're decently good friends. There's an interview where Mike or Billie talk about this somewhere. There's also a similar one with Tom and Mark on the other end of the spectrum. And I'm sure this works in reverse, maybe just as often. There are plenty of musicians (like Fat Mike) who I bet don't like Green Day that much, but they're friends with the boys. This isn't actually an opinion but I'm sure it's unpopular given the current conversation: I don't own Shenanigans/have most of those songs. I think I listened to most of them once and thought "no thanks". You can enjoy them for sure, but they are B-sides for a reason and when put all together, meh. I'm sure most of those songs could have been squeezed into a studio album and we'd be none the wiser, but in a big group like that it's pretty obvious they are throwaways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyHandGrenade Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Mmm... yeah. I used to be really obsessed with The Forgotten, and watched the video constantly. But now, I think it's a really weak song. I'd scrap it, if I'd had the power to do so. I think it was a soft attempt to recreate the "rock ballad" popularity of 21 Guns. Brutal Love is WAY more unique, even if it is based on an old blues song. (can't remember details - heard it on Static Noise or Tre thread) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIGD13 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I think each album on the trylogy should have at least 14 songs, 12 is weak for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musso_kn Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I think it was a soft attempt to recreate the "rock ballad" popularity of 21 Guns. Brutal Love is WAY more unique, even if it is based on an old blues song. (can't remember details - heard it on Static Noise or Tre thread) Yeah, I think the melody from Brutal Love is supposed to be based on a song by Sam Cooke called Bring It On Home To Me. Having it heard the song there are some similarities, but it's not nearly the outright ripoff people have made it out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPhil Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I think each album on the trylogy should have at least 14 songs, 12 is weak for me Yeah 37 songs doesn't seem like too many for a double album to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musso_kn Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Yeah 37 songs doesn't seem like too many for a double album to me Triple album, mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPhil Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Triple album, mate Double! 19 songs on the first CD and 18 on the second, what's the big deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Double! 19 songs on the first CD and 18 on the second, what's the big deal? Mate, even 15 is heavy going for a double album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather. Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Yeah, I think the melody from Brutal Love is supposed to be based on a song by Sam Cooke called Bring It On Home To Me. Having it heard the song there are some similarities, but it's not nearly the outright ripoff people have made it out to be. Considering the band credits Sam Cooke on the song, I think it's fine to accept just how much of a "ripoff" the song is. That doesn't need to have negative connotations. It's one of my favorites ever by Green Day, and I don't think it lacks artistic integrity because of its origins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Yeah, I think the melody from Brutal Love is supposed to be based on a song by Sam Cooke called Bring It On Home To Me. Having it heard the song there are some similarities, but it's not nearly the outright ripoff people have made it out to be. Some? Its the whole entire melody thats not just some Considering the band credits Sam Cooke on the song, I think it's fine to accept just how much of a "ripoff" the song is. That doesn't need to have negative connotations. It's one of my favorites ever by Green Day, and I don't think it lacks artistic integrity because of its origins. Damn saw your post after i posted you said it perfectly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarahnade Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Rotting is one of my favorite Green Day songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseDay Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 My unpopular opnion: The Community hates nearly everything the band does. There are a lot of ignorant people, which think they are the biggest fans on earth, but they're just hating everything GD does. I know, I'm almost alone with that opinion and I'm getting much hate for this post I guess, but I had to say this. It's not the band which changed, it's the community. I think each album on the trylogy should have at least 14 songs, 12 is weak for me thank's for beeing the perfect example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPhil Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Mate, even 15 is heavy going for a double album. 21st CB and Nimrod had 18 songs each Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarahnade Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I think each album on the trylogy should have at least 14 songs, 12 is weak for me So 37 songs isn't enough for you? 12/13 songs per album is perfectly acceptable when you're getting 3 albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 21st CB and Nimrod had 18 songs each Yeah, but those are single albums, bloody long ones at that. If you put the two of those together, it'd just go on forever. It's pretty damn hard to keep a unifying theme going through 30 songs, never mind 20.thank's for beeing the perfect example. JIGD says a lot of things. No one should be immune to criticism. Green Day aren't perfect, no band are. The fact that we accept these flaws and still love them says more about us as a community than anything in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPhil Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Yeah, but those are single albums, bloody long ones at that. If you put the two of those together, it'd just go on forever. It's pretty damn hard to keep a unifying theme going through 30 songs, never mind 20. Oh! If we're talking about theme it changes everything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddy. Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 My unpopular opnion: The Community hates nearly everything the band does. There are a lot of ignorant people, which think they are the biggest fans on earth, but they're just hating everything GD does. I know, I'm almost alone with that opinion and I'm getting much hate for this post I guess, but I had to say this. It's not the band which changed, it's the community. thank's for beeing the perfect example. wow let people have opinions about their favourite bands. being a fan doesn't mean blindly accepting literally everything the band does. criticism means people care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Oh! If we're talking about theme it changes everything! Every double album has a single unifying theme. Otherwise it's just 2 albums of random songs. Which is what the trilogy was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Yeah, but those are single albums, bloody long ones at that. If you put the two of those together, it'd just go on forever. It's pretty damn hard to keep a unifying theme going through 30 songs, never mind 20. JIGD says a lot of things. No one should be immune to criticism. Green Day aren't perfect, no band are. The fact that we accept these flaws and still love them says more about us as a community than anything in this thread. Nimtod is less than 50 mins long thats not long at all And for the other poater I havent anyone hate everything the band does but even as a die hard fan isnt required to love EVERY SINGLE THING a band does as well there will always be something that the band does that that someone wont like and thats ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Nimtod is less than 50 mins long thats not long at all Yeah, but 21stCB is an hour or just under, and that means it'd be around 100 minutes of music in total, which is really pushing it. Add to the fact that there's only one or two longish songs on the trilogy that would serve as centrepieces, the trilogy simply wouldn't work as a double album, in my opinion. 21stCB could have been. If they'd added maybe another 10 songs, and split it into two discs, then it would have worked well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseDay Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I'm not fucking talking about loving everything the band does. I'm talking about the hate. Just take the flame about the trilogy. I can't remember a good word about it. Then the tour name..even there this community is complainíng. It's just pissing me of, this forum is kinda like a place where we can't talk about how shitty GD work is. I acceptance other opinions, but this "hey let's hate every fucking thing they do" is just fucking bullsit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I'm not fucking talking about loving everything the band does. I'm talking about the hate. Just take the flame about the trilogy. I can't remember a good word about it. Then the tour name..even there this community is complainíng. It's just pissing me of, this forum is kinda like a place where we can't talk about how shitty GD work is. I acceptance other opinions, but this "hey let's hate every fucking thing they do" is just fucking bullsit. Maybe you joined late, but there was a shit ton of good stuff said about the trilogy. Just check out any of the threads on the individual albums... And it's just opinion, if they back it up with reasons I couldn't give a fuck what they think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseDay Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Maybe you joined late, but there was a shit ton of good stuff said about the trilogy. Just check out any of the threads on the individual albums... And it's just opinion, if they back it up with reasons I couldn't give a fuck what they think. Sure it's just an opinion, but it's a trend to hate or just not like what the band does. They play some shows and enjoy their lives? -not punk enough They destroy their instruments and offend JB? -too much punk They made a 1 hour rock opera? -that's too much They make a Trilogy? -what only 37? They make a fucking random name for a tour? -fuck this shitty name, we make our own They released a single? -Let's hate the shit out of it They make a pervert video? -That's disgusting! They make a video of them just playing their instruments? -that's too boring They make a political record? -naah they should just do what they like, that's too much They make fun record? -man fuck this, they should do political stuff again And then they talking about how much they changed and that they were better back in 1994 then they were just "funny" and "cool" when they were high. Tell me what you want, but this is what's going on here. I accept your help though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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