Eva Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 No one is saying that the old recordings would vanish into thin air man. They are still there for all of the fans who want them. I would be so happy with a new recording. I wouldn't really want them to change the songs too much either, but those are really amatuer songs. I guarentee I'm not the only one who would enjoy a new edition. I still don't believe they'd change the songs main riffs or lyrics very much if they ever did decide to re-record 'em. Which is why I think a new recording would be a little pointless and a re-mastered version would be a lot better. I do understand where you're coming from though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J&TheNight Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 I still don't believe they'd change the songs main riffs or lyrics very much if they ever did decide to re-record 'em. Which is why I think a new recording would be a little pointless and a re-mastered version would be a lot better. I do understand where you're coming from though. A good remastering too. If anything, just some re-recording of the instruments for certain songs, but intentionally trying to capture the exact sound/vibe of those tracks. It'd keep the original integrity I'd hope. But I doubt we'll get anything more than a "decent" remastering really which sucks, because those songs are of poor recording quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eva Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 A good remastering too. If anything, just some re-recording of the instruments for certain songs, but intentionally trying to capture the exact sound/vibe of those tracks. It'd keep the original integrity I'd hope. But I doubt we'll get anything more than a "decent" remastering really which sucks, because those songs are of poor recording quality. I'd agree with re-recording the instrumentals, definitely! I'm not sure how I'd feel about the drum tracks though because John and Tre have two different, distinct styles. I'd love a re-mastering of the 1,039/Smoothed Out Slappy Hours and Kerplunk in their entirety if it was good quality, like you said. They might do one eventually, in a few years (maybe). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 I'd agree with re-recording the instrumentals, definitely! I'm not sure how I'd feel about the drum tracks though because John and Tre have two different, distinct styles. I'd love a re-mastering of the 1,039/Smoothed Out Slappy Hours and Kerplunk in their entirety if it was good quality, like you said. They might do one eventually, in a few years (maybe). I think they said the master recordings are in such bad state Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anja Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 I don't like saying that but I think I got bored of the trilogy... Lately when I wanted to listen to Green Day I listened to all the albums except Uno Dos or Tré. I barely remember some songs on Uno... So I don't know, I really never was disappointed when I heard the songs on the trilogy but usually I don't get bored of new albums that fast...Even though I really love Tre and Dos (Uno less). Maybe if I listen again to these songs they will grow up in me again? I'm the exact same! They never grew on me. There's only a handful of songs (if at all) that I really do love. The rest I find very average. Can't help it. I tried getting into them but I can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashleycase Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 I'm the exact same! They never grew on me. There's only a handful of songs (if at all) that I really do love. The rest I find very average. Can't help it. I tried getting into them but I can't. Yes! And it annoys me 'cause I know they won't release an album soon... :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anja Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Yes! And it annoys me 'cause I know they won't release an album soon... :/ Yeah, when I first heard they were gonna release three new albums, it was the best news ever! And I was really looking forward to them, knowing they would be great and all! But now... Maybe they will grow on me but for now, I can't really listen to them. Apart from a few songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murdercitykid Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 A good remastering too. If anything, just some re-recording of the instruments for certain songs, but intentionally trying to capture the exact sound/vibe of those tracks. It'd keep the original integrity I'd hope. But I doubt we'll get anything more than a "decent" remastering really which sucks, because those songs are of poor recording quality. I think that the poor quality of the sound on 39/Smooth is so fucking charming, love that album. You can tell by listening to Billie's guitar playing style that he really was listening to great groups like Husker Du. Though I agree that they could re-record some instrument tracks you know, like Kerplunk, sometimes the guitar sounds like it's outside of the other sounds, and that is horrible. I hope you'll understand what I mean, it's hard to explain stuff using the english language sometimes, haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart on a noose Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 As much as I adore Jesus of Suburbia as a song, I strongly dislike music video, just no. Also, Misery is one awesome song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTH Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 It's because of the change I want it re-recorded. Remastered would be a fine compromise sure, but I'd prefer a recording. Live if possible would be fantastic, as that's much closer to the older style. But I PREFER how much they've changed, because they've matured. Back then Billie could barely sing and the songwriting was very amatuer. The recordings are awful, granted they had no money of course. In the end, I'd prefer these recorded again, even though I know it won't happen. A live recording would be fine, I'd be happy either way. The originals are just awful. actually billies singing was pretty good on 1039/smoothed out slappy hours. it might not be your taste, but i actually like it. more than his voice on the trilogy. and the songwriting is bad? compare let yourself go to going to pasalaqua. sweet 16 to dry ice. stop when the red lights flash to the judges daughter. i don't see where the old songs lose here. they had great melodys played in a raw fast sound with cool old rock'n'roll style solos. sure it was not as diverse as today but dookie for example wasn't more complex or something. the lyrics were better, but musically? not really. and a rerecording will change nothing of the songwriting, which is the main thing you complain about. so i don't know why you bring that up. it just doesn't make sense. i actually think you didn't give those songs enough chances. just let them play once in a while. i don't know how you can dislike songs like at the library, dry ice, going to pasalaqua, 16 or only of you. one of the best green day melodys ever. simple but catchy as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eva Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I think they said the master recordings are in such bad state I haven't heard about that...When did they mention it? It would make sense though. The master tapes are about 20 years old and were made by an underground punk label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 My main reason for disliking 1039/Kerplunk is simply because of the quality. I find them really hard to listen to, so I don't give them much of a chance lyrics wise. I'd love to her it re-recorded but of course, Billies voice isn't the same & it's a different drummer. I think it should have been rerecorded at a much earlier date, when they had a chance to do it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I haven't heard about that...When did they mention it? It would make sense though. The master tapes are about 20 years old and were made by an underground punk label. I forget if it was by Larry Livermore or from the band but i remember reading an interview a year or so again saying the master recordings were in bad shape or something like that but maybe I dreamed that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eva Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I forget if it was by Larry Livermore or from the band but i remember reading an interview a year or so again saying the master recordings were in bad shape or something like that but maybe I dreamed that Actually, I think I remember hearing that too now. I believe Larry Livermore mentioned it a few years back when he was being asked about the state of old Lookout master tapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Sam Bayer is the best video director they've ever had. Egotistical? It works. The band look great and the videos captured American Idiot perfectly in my opinion. For the recent videos, I haven't enjoyed. And I think it's because it takes a lot more understanding to have when viewing them (in my opinion), but I didn't get them. His videos for AI were excellent and personally, I wonder what he would've done for the 21st Century Breakdown(song) video, because I didn't enjoy Marc Webb's video for it. Hell yeah that last bit was controversial, I DIDN'T LIKE IT OK! Okay here's one: The January-February US tour dates that Green Day cancelled were the venues they had trouble selling out. Still don't get what they cancelled Las Vegas though, I live in Wisconsin but I always assumed Las Vegas was a pretty big city. Why do I not want to believe this? Are you implying that the promotion company cancelled these shows because they did not sell? Because if that's the case, do you have the source for it? If not, I highly doubt that was the reason why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIGD13 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Last Ride in for me is one of green day most boring songs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Last Ride in for me is one of green day most boring songs It can be quite relaxing, depends what you're into. I like listening to it if I want something mellow, smooth and calm compared to a lot of their stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Certified Nimrod Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 - "The Forgotten" is amazing. - "Rotting" and most other songs on Shenanigans are awful. - I am in love with the trilogy, except for "Fell for You" and "Wild One" - I like the new sound of Billie Joe's guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Why do I not want to believe this? Are you implying that the promotion company cancelled these shows because they did not sell? Because if that's the case, do you have the source for it? If not, I highly doubt that was the reason why. While I have no clue bout the GD dates but it's a common pratice to cancel shows if they havent sold enough tickets that way they wont lose a shitload of money in most cases if shows canceled the venue doesnt charge the promoters the venue (in most situations) besides the artists is the high cost of putting a show on But I have no clue about the reason of the GD shows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadair Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Why do I not want to believe this? Are you implying that the promotion company cancelled these shows because they did not sell? Because if that's the case, do you have the source for it? If not, I highly doubt that was the reason why. That was my opinion and this is an opinion thread. I don't have anything official to back it up though, sorry if I mislead you. That being said even though they cancelled my original show, I am still going to another date of the tour so I don't hold it against them or their music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J&TheNight Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 actually billies singing was pretty good on 1039/smoothed out slappy hours. it might not be your taste, but i actually like it. more than his voice on the trilogy. and the songwriting is bad? compare let yourself go to going to pasalaqua. sweet 16 to dry ice. stop when the red lights flash to the judges daughter. i don't see where the old songs lose here. they had great melodys played in a raw fast sound with cool old rock'n'roll style solos. sure it was not as diverse as today but dookie for example wasn't more complex or something. the lyrics were better, but musically? not really. and a rerecording will change nothing of the songwriting, which is the main thing you complain about. so i don't know why you bring that up. it just doesn't make sense. i actually think you didn't give those songs enough chances. just let them play once in a while. i don't know how you can dislike songs like at the library, dry ice, going to pasalaqua, 16 or only of you. one of the best green day melodys ever. simple but catchy as hell. Oh I've given those songs tons of chances. I have like 5 from each I listen to on occasion, just very very very rarely. I constantly put GD on shuffle and let it roll through those songs, I just don't enjoy them really at all. I don't like Dookie that much either, those are my 3 least favorite GD records. I think those songs are weak and amateur, but that they would benefit from a re-recording, which is why I bring it up. I doubt the group would change much of the songs besides possibly the solos and what not. These songs would benefit from a good remastering (if possible) or some solid recordings, either studio or live. This would definitely make them more enjoyable for me and I'm sure several others. My main complaint, the one I've said like ten times, is that the recordings are of poor quality. Very poor. All around. I just hit on the song writing because I find it weak compared to the entirety of GD's discography, but it's not why I don't listen to 1039/Kerplunk but on a rare occasion, I just can't really hear it much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 And the comparison of "Dirty Rotten Bastards" to a Jesus of Suburbia/Homecoming was grossly misinterpreted. I felt the different sections between DRB did NOT go together at all. Very disjointed and random. And the lyrically content was just not there. Really felt no connection to the songs like I usually do. I like DRB but when you make the (inevitable) comparisons to JOS and Homecoming, I agree. And I cringe whenever I hear "What the fuck does OK stand for?" like, y'all don't even understand how much I fucking hate that line. I can't stand the AI Musical album (forced myself to listen to it from start to finish once and was cringeing the whole way through) and have no interest in ever seeing the musical. I'm sure it's technically good and I'm glad they did it to experiment/try new things/broaden their horizons etc, but I personally just don't enjoy that "musical" sound and style of singing at all so it's not for me. The crazy thing is when it first came out it got rave reviews (some even saying it was better than American Idiot) and everyone on here loved it! With the Trilogy there's been a mix of people liking, disliking, and being meh about it and a lot of negative as well as positive reviews, but it really seemed like everyone liked 21st CB, it was a proper lovefest. Then it started not being promoted very well, and the band basically abandoned it in favour of the musical, and suddenly it became trendy to hate it and call it their worst album. Obviously personal taste comes into it as well and a lot of people do genuinely not like it as much as their other albums, but I think the trendy factor comes into it too I have a relationship with the musical where I liked the touring company's performance I saw and I like the OBC recording well enough. But I wasn't obsessed with it like a lot of people are. And I have this semi-irrational hatred of movie-musicals, so I expect that I'll hate a movie version and it will destroy any of the love I do have for it now. The Oh Love video really affected me in a negative way because I didn't think the guys were like that and there's nothing in the video that indicates it's done in a mocking, sarcastic way that a lot of people seem to say it is. I have never agreed with something more in my life. I love the song, which is an unpopular opinion in itself, but the video.. It just, it makes me feel like shit. I always took our guys as something different to having half naked women prance around in front of them. Of course a lot of men like that but to broadcast it in such a way, it's just a very negative thing to do when a lot of their fan base is teenage girls. Not that I'm a teenage girl but I'm still gonna be affected the same way by seeing that. I do not see any mocking/sarcasm in it at all. All I see is 3 pervy guys which half naked women. I hate calling them that, but in that video, that's how it comes across. While the Oh Love video is undeniably sexist, I find it strange that no one cares that there were women in green leotards prancing somewhat provocatively around Billie in the Holiday video. Ah yes, the great Oh Love video debate. Good times. I was very vocal about my gripes about the video back when it came out, so I won't rehash them, only repeating that with the Holiday video, I got a very obvious sense of a tongue-in-cheek nature from the girls in that video. I certainly didn't get that impression with the Oh Love video. In Holiday, it seemed like the band was playing a part, acting out a persona. Meanwhile, in the Oh Love video, as said above, I got an uncomfortable male gaze impression from the band members, and that they were being themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armatage Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Rotting is the best song on Shenanigans. Also, Kill the DJ is a good song. Maybe it needs some heavier guitars, but that might be worked out live. Over all, the message of the song and video is really obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneSongInFrench Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Misery is my all time favorite Green Day song...just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I don't know if this counts but I HATE how a lot of their merch is 'limited edition' or in short supply these days. Mostly the Uno, Dos & Tre converse. They weren't out for very long at all & considering the price of them [i certainly can't afford to spend £60 on a pair of shoes at random], you woulda thought they'd keep them around for a while longer so people had a chance to get some money together to get them. I'm lucky I got the Dookie & American Idiot converse, as soon as they were released I ordered them. I didn't have any money to my name at that point so I put it on my credit card but I know I can pay it off next month. A lot of people don't have the chance to buy some really cool shit of theirs & it sucks ass, I am a bit grumpy. I wanted those damn shoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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