Unpopular Green Day Opinions

[Tubbie Head]

I don't really like jokes about Billie's meltdown (can't say I wasn't guilty of a few "one fucking minute" jokes but if I were in his place ( ) I wouldn't want people to remind me about iHeart...

I agree with this.

[Hermione]

Christian's Inferno, Take Back, Last Ride In and Nightlife are awesome.

Macy's Day Parade isn't

Also the "balloons" of the band in the Minority video are terrible, no idea if it's an unpopular opinion but just throwing that out there!

This might be a popular opinion but I am IN LOVE with Peacemaker. It's such a catchy song!

I think that's popular! Unless people have no taste.

Nightlife is NOT a real green day song in my opinion

Green Day wrote, recorded and released it so yes it is, sorry

[Kerplunk!!!]

Who wrote holden caulfield would probably be half as popular and wouldn't win so many best song on Kerplunk polls here if Billie had never called it his favourite Green Day song. Good song though but wouldn't call it the best on Kerplunk..

[Maddy.]

I think Kill the DJ is a masterpiece and is one of the best songs ever written. It's exactly how dance songs should be, not made with synths, macbooks, or autotune, but with rock n roll. And the only reason people hate it is because they can't separate rock n roll influenced dance music from computer electronic dance music, which is a crying shame.

Kill the DJ is the dance song the world needs.

i want to violently make love to your opinion

[DannyDirnt]

Nightlife is NOT a real green day song in my opinion

Sorry, but it is. There's no opinion here, it is. Like others you can like it or dislike it but it's a Green Day song.

Actually, I don't get the hate with Nightlife. I love it, it's one of my favorite songs in the trilogy and maybe even in Green Day's discography. I love the fact that it's so different. I love how slutty it sounds because it has some real funny lyrics, and really gets you into that 'you think I'm hot, I know it and I'm the boss here' feeling. In my opinion, Nightlife IS a good song.

[Dirntbag]

Also the "balloons" of the band in the Minority video are terrible, no idea if it's an unpopular opinion but just throwing that out there!

That video makes me cringe.

A lot of people have said that Tre's drumming sucks in this thread. I mean I don't know a lot about music, but I've always thought his drumming was very strong, especially in American Idiot.

[Guest]

- I dislike 1039, Kerplunk & most of 21st CBD.

- The trilogy is amazing, their best work in a long time.

- Dos is my favourite, then Uno, then Tre.

- Nightlife is one of the top 5 songs from it. [i just love how raw.../drunk & dirty Billies voice sounds & how different it is to everything they've done]

- She's A Rebel is one of my favourites from AI.

- Kill The DJ is probably one of their best songs so far. Not just on the trilogy, but for their career. Every time it comes on I just wanna go out & get trashed.

[ColinOr]

21st Century Breakdown is their all time best album.

Uno is their worst album ever.

[Kerplunk!!!]

Billie's vocals are better on Pinhead Gunpowder tracks and MPLS song is one of the best examples of this. I'm talking about punk vocals rather than overall qaulity of course though.

[Milo Goes To Pasalacqua]

Dos is the worst in the trilogy, there's only three good songs on Tre, and Uno is the best. I don't know what the fuck Green Day was thinking, but they lied to us. They said they were going back to their roots, doing a punk, raw trilogy. Instead, we get an over produced, too-smooth pile of b-side material. I love it, but only live. These recordings are to poppy and smooth for me. Where's that rawness?

This. They can go abso-fucking-lutely any direction they want to and don't owe fans of their old-school stuff anything, but i still think it was wrong to tell us that the trilogy would be a back-to-basics thing. It wasn't even close. Some songs are, the majority is not. And i think that lack of rawness is the main reason i am disappointed with the trilogy, it's got to be. Because you have plenty songs on it that could rock your socks off on the trilogy but they don't come close and i think that could have a lot to do with the squeeky-clean, insipid production or something. There are parts where the trilogy even feels a bit stagnant. Particularly with the vox. Yes yes yes, i know Billie has matured, he has sung a broadway musical etc. etc. etc. but i think it's just however his voice has been edited or produced or something. Brutal Love was a good showcase of these new vocal abilities, and it may have suited songs like Nightlife but after that the vocals just don't pack a punch anymore, like they did even on AI. They range from bland to even slightly annoying from time to time.

There were some potentially awesome songs that just really needed a more gritty or just less clean production, and better vox. Oh, and half decent lyrics. Sure, there were some interesting one-liners (some of Kill The DJ's lyrics come to mind) but there is quite a lot of cringe-worthiness from time to time there (Makeout Party...). Billie can write good lyrics if he wants too; listen to 21CB. And i know that the trilogy was supposed to be a move away from the heavy matter of tracks that are part of a concept album and political commentaries, but you had witty lyrics aplenty on albums like Insomniac (albeit often a tad strange but hey, that was Green Day's lyrics).

So yeah. My unpopular opinion is that the trilogy is not great. I'd say it sucks but that's a strong sentiment and there's a few good tracks here and there. But it is bad. And i know, i'm being ungrateful, my favorite band released 37 tracks in the space of 4 months when they hadn't released anything in so, so long but it was still underwhelming and i do think one solid album from all the good tracks could have been released. The best of the remainder of the tracks could have been put out as b-sides, and later on a compilation along with all the rest as a stopgap to sate the fans while they wait on another album. But it's not great when Shenanigans is better than most of the material on the trilogy.

Also, Nightlife is a shit song...which i like anyway.

The song Green Day gives me feels. What happened to the Green Day I love, those stoned kids just playing their music, it was their passion. Now they have nothing else to do. Green Day just needs to get stoned. Also I remember the flipside interview from 1990 where Billie said he didn't have sex, because if he gave in to sex, he'd have nothing to hope for and nothing to write about. That's where we got beautiful songs like 1000 Hours, Dry Ice, 80, 2000 Light Years Away, Going to Pasalacqua. Now Billie has a wife and kids, and he doesn't know that feeling that all teenagers have; that feeling of wanting the person you love. He has Adie now, he doesn't dream every night of what it would be like to love her. THERE"S NO PASSIONATE LOVE SONGS ANYMORE!!!!!!!

And don't say Missing You is a passionate love song. You saw how they came up with it in Quatro. Mike called it an easy-A.

Stay The Night is one helluva passionate love song. I suppose some would argue Fell For You and 8th Avenue Serenade were too but i won't. Just Stay The Night. That's all.

[ProstheticHeads]

Loss of Control is actually a good catchy song meanwhile Angel Blue is the worst one off Uno

I don't like 1039/SOSH or anything before that, dont like that old sound they had. I like some tunes off kerplunk though.

The worst trilogy song is See You Tonight, has nothing memorable about it (for some reason everyone else never chooses this one haha)

Macy's Day Parade and Wow That's Loud are overrated

Letterbomb is one of the best/powerful (for lack of a better word) GD songs ever written.

[Milo Goes To Pasalacqua]

I can't believe people are saying that Boulevard of Broken Dreams is overrated and shit! That song is probably one of the greatest songs of the 21st century in my opinion (I know most of you won't agree, but hey it's just my opinion). Even people who hate Green Day admit that it's an amazing song. The outro to that song is so badass it's unreal! So stop hating on that song because if it wasn't for that song I can guarantee you that Green Day would not have as many fans. I would've never listened to Green Day in the first place if it wasn't for that song and now I love every single one of their albums.

Without that song, i would not have got a friend to give me a copy of AI and i would not be on this forum. The title track helped a good bit too but it was Boulevard that i got her to make me a copy for.

[Hermione]

but i still think it was wrong to tell us that the trilogy would be a back-to-basics thing.

They didn't. They were talking about the fact they were at the "back-to-basics" stage of making an album, as in just starting out writing and jamming. In some crappy article the quote was twisted to make it sound like they said they were going "back-to-basics" style wise and making an old school/Dookie style album. It was made up, the band never said it. They never specifically said what the albums would sound like until much later, when they said it'd be a power pop type album, a more garagey album, and a more reflective album. And I think those descriptions are pretty accurate.

[Todd]

Billie's vocals are better on Pinhead Gunpowder tracks and MPLS song is one of the best examples of this. I'm talking about punk vocals rather than overall qaulity of course though.

YESSS

I don't like 1039/SOSH or anything before that, dont like that old sound they had. I like some tunes off kerplunk though.

OMG, I hate everything from before 1039. Y'know, all of the stuff from before 1989? That stuff totally sucks.

[Milo Goes To Pasalacqua]

They didn't. They were talking about the fact they were at the "back-to-basics" stage of making an album, as in just starting out writing and jamming. In some crappy article the quote was twisted to make it sound like they said they were going "back-to-basics" style wise and making an old school/Dookie style album. It was made up, the band never said it. They never specifically said what the albums would sound like until much later, when they said it'd be a power pop type album, a more garagey album, and a more reflective album. And I think those descriptions are pretty accurate.

Sorry, my bad, i must have thought those were Billie's words themselves. For a while, it seemed a lot of fans were expecting at least some of the trilogy to be pre-AI style and i'm guessing it was after they had heard Let Yourself Go. And while i'm in critical mode, LYG was fun and it was good to hear a song that could have come off Nimrod again, but it was by no means as good as their other straight-up punk songs from before AI. They already did the angry and pissed off punk song much better with Platypus, Ha Ha Your Dead and especially Take Back. It reminded me of Maria...which was also a better song.

I will say i love the frustrated "gotta let it go" mantra though (and look forward to hearing it live).

[Juliette]

I know a lot of people dislike the trilogy and I'll admit I wasn't blown away by it. I think the problem is maybe the timing. I know a lot of people aren't as massive fans of Green Day as they maybe were at one point, and Idk about everyone else but I remember a time when just the rumour of a new song had everyone desperately wanting to hear it and it sparking huge conversations. The songs on those three albums may not be their best but did they not mention around AI time that they'd written enough songs for 3 albums? It seems to me like they were songs that they'd written and didn't fit into the albums they wanted to make at the time, but I still think it was good of them to get them out to their fans. Ok they might not all be up your street, but if there's even just one song on those 3 albums that you love, does that not make it worth it in a way? I mean, any other band would probably have just disregarded them completely.

[Hermione]

Sorry, my bad, i must have thought those were Billie's words themselves. For a while, it seemed a lot of fans were expecting at least some of the trilogy to be pre-AI style and i'm guessing it was after they had heard Let Yourself Go. And while i'm in critical mode, LYG was fun and it was good to hear a song that could have come off Nimrod again, but it was by no means as good as their other straight-up punk songs from before AI. They already did the angry and pissed off punk song much better with Platypus, Ha Ha Your Dead and especially Take Back. It reminded me of Maria...which was also a better song.

I will say i love the frustrated "gotta let it go" mantra though (and look forward to hearing it live).

I know right, the idea of them going back to their roots/Dookie etc was everywhere. I think most of it really did just come from that one random article, once they'd said it it got re-reported in loads of other articles and it just spread around so can't blame anyone for not knowing it was out of context. Might've been a bit of wishful thinking in there too (not saying it was for you), I guess some fans will always hope a new album will sound a certain way a bit too much and then inevitably get disappointed.

[spark in the night]

The hate for 21 Guns is such a bandwagon.

not to me. I've never liked it.

[bjrules]

Macy's Day Parade is one of my favourite Green Day songs. Also, Minority may just be a tad overrated IMO.

[Cath]

I don't understand the hate about Oh Love

[RokketQueen]

1. I like the guyliner! Then again, I grew up in the 80's. I watched MTV launch and I was a 'Duranie'. I wanted my make up to look as good as Nick Rhodes. The boys were pretty and I'm still a sucker for a guy wearing eyeliner today

2. I don't think they've sold out. I think they've grown and evolved. It'd be a pretty dull career if they'd just released the same sound over and over again.

3. Billie Joe is not a sex god. The dude is a total dork and I love him for that. It boggles my mind how so many swoon over him. He's not the manliest thing...LoL

4. I like 'Nightlife', but I'd love it even more if that hideous rap were removed.

5. My favorite Green Day song is 'Warning'. I never get tired of listening to it and use to sing it like a lullabye to my son.

6. "Dookie' is not their best album, but when it came out I was blown away by how different it sounded from all that grunge crap we were subjected to.

7. The trilogy could've been condensed to 1 album, but where's the fun it that? Yeah, some of it is kind of blah, but even then it's still better than most of the shit passing for music on the radio these days.

RQ

[Eva]

East Jesus Nowhere is one of Green Day's best songs, this song needed to have a proper third chorus.

Green Day's punk music has always been pop-punk. There are like no punk songs on Kerplunk or 39 Smooth and I consider Green Day to be just a rock band

First of all, yes! EJN is, in my opinion, the best Green Day song from the "new Green Day." The political implications that Billie put in to the lyrics are just absolutely fucking amazing. On top of the lyrics, the instrumentals are just good.

Second, you wanna know why Green Day and Tim Yohannan never got along? Because Tim created 924 Gilman, a punk rock hangout/venue and Green Day, a band that was pop-rock, showed up. They have the attitude. I will give them that. Green Day have the punk attitude. But musically? No. It's never been there, really. Insomniac, Dookie, Kerplunk, etc. are only, in my opinion (don't tear me apart) called punk by a lot of GD fans because they haven't heard the other Gilman or California bands that were around in the 1980s with GD. And people I've met who do listen to those bands agree with me in saying that GD's never been true punk.

But video wise AAF over BIAB simply cause AAF was more complete and didnt have interviews cut in after the songs fucking up the flow

I love the interviews in BIAB but if they had put them all at the end or in a special features section I would have liked it so much more. It just messes with the concert footage.

6. I cringe every time they're going to be on the cover of a magazine, because I know the headline will call them a 'punk band'.

7. I'm really sick of the eyeliner.

Green Day's about as punk as Avril Lavigne at this point. Not to be rude but...yeah. I'm sick of the eyeliner too. When did that even start?

and why did they keep doing it...

We're all going to disagree with each other genre wise but... What's with this whole either or fallacy that, because Green Day isn't punk, they must obviously be pop? I might like to call them an 'alternative punk band' but is it not also possible to call them just a good ol' rock band without all the sneers and snarky fucking comments?

I always get in to an argument when I bring this up, but is it really that hard to call it rock? I understand people associated the word rock with mainstream bands from the 1970s and 80s but that's what it is. The term alternative didn't originate until the early 1990s when Nirvana came around. The only reason the genre exists is because Nirvana was an "alternative" music choice in contrast with the mainstream rock and pop bands played on the radio. By all means, Nirvana was a rock band. That's how they identified themselves. The only thing that changed the genre from rock to alternative was the media.

[Guest]

I love the interviews in BIAB but if they had put them all at the end or in a special features section I would have liked it so much more. It just messes with the concert footage.

Green Day's about as punk as Avril Lavigne at this point. Not to be rude but...yeah. I'm sick of the eyeliner too. When did that even start?

and why did they keep doing it...

Exactly why I prefer Awesome As Fuck. It's a straight through blast, rather than getting interrupted ever 5 minutes.

And the guyliner is pre-Dookie, back in their Gilman days

It's part of their image now. Although now would be the perfect time to kick it to the curb.

[Eva]

It's part of their image now. Although now would be the perfect time to kick it to the curb.

I was hoping it'd go away with the release of the trilogy

[Guest]

I was hoping it'd go away with the release of the trilogy

It seemed like a good time to do it. It was noticeably absent during the secret shows. It looked like the Nimrod/Warning days were back, with the guys just in shorts and tees. Guess they can't get away with that now being big ol' rockstars.