Unpopular Green Day Opinions

[Cob]

Fuck Time is pretty funny to me. I love that chorus.

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It's a Tubbies song originally, it should have stayed with the Tubbies. A lot of GD fans don't understand the background of it and therefore assume it's something weird and pervy because it's been pulled out of context.

As for Nightlife, just listen to the damn bass line okay? I promise you'll grow to love it.

You get it. But I disagree about what should and shouldn't be a Hot Tubs tune. Green Day can do whatever the fuck they want with their songs.

Unpopular opinion: I love the lyrics in Sex, Drugs and Violence

Seriously. It's got a great set of lyrics and an even better meaning.

[Cath]

it's not that i don't understand the background of the song or whatever. it's just that i don't like how it sounds. it's the same deal with every songs you doesn't like.

[HolyHandGrenade]

To be honest, "oh, baby, baby, it's fuck (f-woo!) time" is pretty pathetic, and I'm surprised no one's mentioned it yet.

Honestly, that's exactly what the song is intended to be like. Obvious, inappropriate, and matter of fact.

[Eva]

This, very much! I really don't know what was on Billie's mind...

That song sounds like it was written by a frustrated high school kid or something.

That's the point of the song. I, personally, love it.

Unpopular opinion: I love the lyrics in Sex, Drugs and Violence

Me too. As a weird gay kid with ADHD in the middle of Tennessee, I despise the conformity (and lack of connection with the teachers) that occurs in American public schools. I can really relate to the song, no matter how "basic" the lyrics may be.

[Asa.]

the worst part of sex drugs and violence isn't even the english math and science line, it's the "gimme gimme danger" that i don't like still love the song though, it's definitely grown on me.

but the best part is towards the end when he goes "GIMME GIMME DANGERRRR OWW!"

[Insomniac45]

I love the lyrics in Sex, Drugs & Violence as well haha. Also, it's probably the catchiest song to come out of the trilogy.

[Cob]

All my life trouble follows me like a mystery girl....

[blitzkriegdeb]

Curious to know, to everyone who thinks Fuck Time is creepy or whatever, did you think it was creepy when they did it originally as the Hot Tubs?

I don't know, I don't see it as creepy because its just such a rediculous song to begin with that I can't take it seriously in any sense.

[UNICORN VOMIT]

Same - don't take it seriously.

[munns6691]

@zach_jones I like your idea but I'm thinking 15 songs:

1. Nuclear Family

2. Stay the Night

3. Let Yourself Go

4. Rusty James

5. Oh Love

6. Lazy Bones

7. Stray Heart

8. Brutal Love

9. Missing You

10. 8th Aveune Serenade

11. X-Kid

12. Sweet 16

13. Dirty Rotten Bastards

14. 99 Revolutions

15. Stop When the Red Lights Flash

Bonus B-sides

1. Sex, Drugs, and Violence

2. Amanda

3. Loss of Control

4. Wow, That's Loud

[musso_kn]

Honestly, that's exactly what the song is intended to be like. Obvious, inappropriate, and matter of fact.

It's trying to be matter of fact, but the lyrics are so awkward, I'm not laughing with them, I'm laughing at them.

[Mar]

It's trying to be matter of fact, but the lyrics are so awkward, I'm not laughing with them, I'm laughing at them.

I have this relationship with so many songs on the trilogy (looking at you Troublemaker).

[musso_kn]

I have this relationship with so many songs on the trilogy (looking at you Troublemaker).

Yeah, that's another one. Unlike many fans, I wasn't remotely aroused or impressed when I heard Billie Joe sing "I want to get inside of you" or "I like your BMX-cellent tits". There's so much on these records that feels...vacuous. Just really, really empty.

[The Grouch is Tracy]

I love the lyrics in Sex, Drugs & Violence as well haha. Also, it's probably the catchiest song to come out of the trilogy.

It's not the verses I have issues with, just the lame chorus, the verses are so good, that's why the chorus let me down so much.

[kilawatcongo]

Repost from a previous thread:

Hitchin' A Ride's bridge is awkward no matter how you look at it.

my bf got it for me for christmas, and we were watching it. and we were like 15 and so we started making out midway through lol... and that hitchin a ride part came on..and we just were like looking at each other all awkward..like what is happening? haha

[DannyDirnt]

It's an embarrassing number and it is THE sound of a rampant 40 year old man having a mid life crisis. Plus, unlike their previous work (ie Longview and Blood, sex and booze) it isn't even funny.

I disagree. Fuck Time is a good song, it's just that the studio version is terrible.

[musso_kn]

I disagree. Fuck Time is a good song, it's just that the studio version is terrible.

I agree that it sound so much rawer and more powerful live. It's mainly the lyrics I dislike, and I could probably overlook them in a concert setting.

[Cob]

I'm pretty sick of this "lack of depth" thing. Green Day has never been this "deep" band, at least not until 21stCB, and even then it was only mildly successful ( since there are many points on that record where you can't tell what the fuck is going on).

Is the Trilogy straightforward? Definitely, but not anymore straightforward than any previous release. Now that's an unpopular opinion.

It's like, what's Geek Stink Breath about or Redundant? Such deep meanings, right? Or what about a song like Stray Heart, infidelity disguised in 60's pop. Or Nuclear Family, excitement and energy in a song about fucking over your family. That's not real or deep or human? That's empty? Or what about something like SWTRLF; lust is empty? Comparing lust to violence is empty?

Time to start wearing black berets with a turtle neck and doing slam poetry then.

[Hermione]

Honestly, that's exactly what the song is intended to be like. Obvious, inappropriate, and matter of fact.

Plus there's also the tongue in cheek side of it. It sounds just like one of those old songs from the 50s or 60s that would have vaguely suggestive lyrics but never explicitly say what they were REALLY talking about (sex). From the music you'd expect some nice clean cut lyrics along those lines.......but instead it's the exact opposite, no euphemisms just coming right out and saying it as explicitly as possible

That's the real charm of Fuck Time for me, it's more than just silly dirty lyrics, it's also a bit of a parody of those old songs. Plus putting it straight after See You Tonight adds yet another layer of humour to it - a nice sweet song about seeing someone that night, and then you hear what will actually be happening that night in full detail!

Yeah, that's another one. Unlike many fans, I wasn't remotely aroused or impressed when I heard Billie Joe sing "I want to get inside of you" or "I like your BMX-cellent tits". There's so much on these records that feels...vacuous. Just really, really empty.

I can't imagine anyone is aroused by "I like your BMX-cellent tits" . It's just an amusing, deliberately ridiculous play on words. This is a band that once happily put Dominated Love Slave not just as a bonus track, but right in the middle of their album, and who opened the show with All By Myself last time I saw them. I like that they're able to have moments of humour and silliness in what they do along with the more serious stuff. The fact that they don't take themselves too seriously to do things like that from time to time is a big part of what makes them such an entertaining band.

[Cob]

Plus there's also the tongue in cheek side of it. It sounds just like one of those old songs from the 50s or 60s that would have vaguely suggestive lyrics but never explicitly say what they were REALLY talking about (sex). From the music you'd expect some nice clean cut lyrics along those lines.......but instead it's the exact opposite, no euphemisms just coming right out and saying it as explicitly as possible

That's the real charm of Fuck Time for me, it's more than just silly dirty lyrics, it's also a bit of a parody of those old songs. Plus putting it straight after See You Tonight adds yet another layer of humour to it - a nice sweet song about seeing someone that night, and then you hear what will actually be happening that night in full detail!

I can't imagine anyone is aroused by "I like your BMX-cellent tits" . It's just an amusing, deliberately ridiculous play on words. This is a band that once happily put Dominated Love Slave not just as a bonus track, but right in the middle of their album and who opened the show with All By Myself last time I saw them. I like that they're able to have moments of humour and silliness in what they do along with the more serious stuff. The fact that they don't take themselves too seriously to do things like that from time to time is a big part of what makes them such an entertaining band.

Be ready. In taking a one way flight to the UK with a bouquet of roses and an engagement ring.

[Hermione]

Be ready. In taking a one way flight to the UK with a bouquet of roses and an engagement ring.

Oh you , I'll get the champagne on ice

[Cob]

I'm torn about Fuck Time I loved it as the Foxboro Hottubs (even have their version on my iPod) but I'm not a fan of the Green Day version. There's just something about the Tubbies style that suits the tone and energy of the song much more than Green Day. I mean, there's a reason why they are two separate bands, right?

Woaaaahhhhhhh what about American Idiot?

American Idiot is only "deeper" if socio-political issues are deep to you. Otherwise that core existentialism is still there. Lyrically it's much less straightforward, so I guess in that sense it is more complex than the Trilogy (but not necessarily deeper). I think, for those of us who grew up with American Idiot as teens, it's just easier to relate to therefore it means more to us, but music aside, at the end of the day its objectively still as personal and existentialist as everything else they've done.

[Mr Panda]

American Idiot is only "deeper" if socio-political issues are deep to you. Otherwise that core existentialism is still there. Lyrically it's much less straightforward, so I guess in that sense it is more complex than the Trilogy (but not necessarily deeper). I think, for those of us who grew up with American Idiot as teens, it's just easier to relate to therefore it means more to us, but music aside, at the end of the day its objectively still as personal and existentialist as everything else they've done.

i did not grew up with American Idiot as a teen.Even then i can relate to it much more than any other album

And what about songs like "Whatshername"???

I'm just eager to know your definition for the word "DEPTH"

[musso_kn]

I'm pretty sick of this "lack of depth" thing. Green Day has never been this "deep" band, at least not until 21stCB, and even then it was only mildly successful ( since there are many points on that record where you can't tell what the fuck is going on).

Is the Trilogy straightforward? Definitely, but not anymore straightforward than any previous release. Now that's an unpopular opinion.

It's like, what's Geek Stink Breath about or Redundant? Such deep meanings, right? Or what about a song like Stray Heart, infidelity disguised in 60's pop. Or Nuclear Family, excitement and energy in a song about fucking over your family. That's not real or deep or human? That's empty? Or what about something like SWTRLF; lust is empty? Comparing lust to violence is empty?

Time to start wearing black berets with a turtle neck and doing slam poetry then.

Deep and metaphorical are not the same thing. Bob Dylan is widely considered one of the best lyricists of all time, tackling everything from relationships to politics, and he's very straightforward in his approach. As you say, Billie Joe have always been an extremely blunt lyricist, adopting a penchant for metaphor only around the time of writing for 21st Century Breakdown. The reason that all the work prior to the Trilogy, in my humble opinion, is lyrically so much stronger and deeper, is because in one way or another it always shows a degree of insight and understanding.

Pretty much all of the themes explored across the trilogy have been tackled at some point in previous albums. Geek Stink Breath works lyrically because it paints a very detailed picture of meth abuse, while Redundant conveys the feeling of being in a dead end relationship with humanity and sincerity. Both songs some how manage to be oddly poetic, while also simple and memorable.

Many of the trilogy lyrics are vague, trite or utterly forgettable. Even X Kid, one of the most powerful tracks the whole project has to offer, feels extremely clumsy in places: "here goes nothing, the shouting's over" doesn't express some of ideas in the song very clearly or fully. I know it's supposed to be about suicide, but it doesn't capture the fear of growing old or mourning at all.

[Cob]

Saying that, what exactly makes 21CB any "deeper" than American Idiot? Both albums comment on exactly the same things. The only difference is the presentation and release date.

21stCB is lyrically more metaphorical and poetic than American Idiot. I'm going to go ahead and clarify that I'm making the connection between depth and lyrical metaphor because others seemed to be, thus rebutting the point, but I digress.

Deep and metaphorical are not the same thing. Bob Dylan is widely considered one of the best lyricists of all time, tackling everything from relationships to politics, and he's very straightforward in his approach. As you say, Billie Joe have always been an extremely blunt lyricist, adopting a penchant for metaphor only around the time of writing for 21st Century Breakdown. The reason that all the work prior to the Trilogy, in my humble opinion, is lyrically so much stronger and deeper, is because in one way or another it always shows a degree of insight and understanding.

Pretty much all of the themes explored across the trilogy have been tackled at some point in previous albums. Geek Stink Breath works lyrically because it paints a very detailed picture of meth abuse, while Redundant conveys the feeling of being in a dead end relationship with humanity and sincerity. Both songs some how manage to be oddly poetic, while also simple and memorable.

Many of the trilogy lyrics are vague, trite or utterly forgettable. Even X Kid, one of the most powerful tracks the whole project has to offer, feels extremely clumsy in places: "here goes nothing, the shouting's over" doesn't express some of ideas in the song very clearly or fully. I know it's supposed to be about suicide, but it doesn't capture the fear of growing old or mourning at all.

Jesus Christ I want to respond but I don't what to type on my iPod. I will say this though: consider that X-Kid is Billie written from the perspective of the fallen friend, not writing from 3rd person (he clearly uses both throughout the song). "Here's goes nothing" is the mentality of the suicide victim, not of the mourner. The bridge of the song is though, and God is it powerful.