stories and songs Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I can't remember, were you around when the video premiered? We had such a ... fun ... debate about the subject and I felt the same way you did. It was taken really seriously and it made me feel uncomfortable as all hell. The Holiday video was a joke, it was satire, it was fun. I didn't find anything off with the band before iHeart besides not being happy with the Oh Love video, but in hindsight I saw it. I lost my password for an extended period of time (haha) so I didn't bother to retrieve it and start posting on here again until iHeart happened. I was absent for the discussion leading up to Uno's release. I'm pretty sure I just vented a lot in the comment section of GDA instead. Like, a lot. Oh Love was an actual "we're rockstars hanging out with hot chicks" video, and that is so far from my idea of who Green Day are. Not that you can't change your image, but that particular image is the exact opposite of what I associate them with. They're silly, they're fun. They're family men. I know it was just a video and some acting goes into music videos, but still. I kept thinking they were acting weird in interviews. And I know because of everything that happened that sounds really absurd, but I just felt like something was amiss. And I had no idea WHAT was going on (there was no way of knowing), I just felt like something had changed. At the time, I thought it was a "me thing", considering how I felt about the Oh Love video and whatnot. In all the comments I read no one seemed to think anything strange of the interviews, so I just started to think that maybe I had grown apart from them in the three year hiatus between albums. Obviously now I know my observations were legitimate and it wasn't just my imagination! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyHandGrenade Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I think you're absolutely correct. It has the smartass nature like a lot of the band's lyrics from those days, it's got humor and yet, it's also got heart with its message. However, I think their performances of it are just not that fun anymore. They seem almost rote and I think the time could be spent performing something else. It's the highlight of the concert for first timers, but if you're a hardcore fan who has watched BIAB and or gone to multiple concerts, it gets old fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoopy Doo Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I honestly think the reason that the trilogy didn't blow up as big as it should of is because of the current music scene. Pop-rock, punk-rock and just rock in general isn't the big thing at the moment. It's all about the electronic music and variations of it. Dubstep, techno, etc. And I honestly think that's a pile of horse shit, because quite frankly, all the electronic music IS shit. I mean honestly, dubstep is terrible. (No offense to any of the electronic music fans out there, I'm simply just giving my opinion.) Call me crazy, but I actually like connecting to the music I listen to and actually feel what the band was feeling at the time that they wrote that certain song, lyrically and instrumentally. THIS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwise Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I feel like the trilogy has plenty of humor.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Okay, okay. I will watched King For A Day tonight! The only reason I don't like the song is that it has trumpets in it and I despise most forms of trumpet/brass music. If the live version doesn't have this, then I'm sure I will love it. I also don't like when they have saxaphone in their live songs. Just once I wish they would've played Static Age live without it because that really takes away from my enjoyment of it. Here's one that's perfect for you! No trumpet/brass, just Billie playing a pretend trumpet But you should definitely watch the others, this one isn't nearly as interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave To The Network Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Here's one that's perfect for you! No trumpet/brass, just Billie playing a pretend trumpet But you should definitely watch the others, this one isn't nearly as interesting I watched the Rod Laver one. Okay, it's fuckin' funny! I guess I have been missing out all this time! Though I still don't like the saxophone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strayheart1219 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I think that is a perfect way to describe the "Oh Love" music video...lazy. At least to me, there was nothing unique about it. I also feel Kill the Dj was the same way. It was a very stereotypical, cookie cutter music video. It didn't have that Green Day-esque air to it. I personally don't see how "oh love" fits in with the trilogy...Billie made the comment that Uno was like classic Green Day, but I don't feel that "oh love" had that sound. And I was not pleased at all when they decided for that song to be their first single. It doesn't really encompass the album. well you have to admit the trilogy is one big party. It defines booze and naked girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snows Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I just heard the side projects of GD. FBHT are awesome, but The Network WTF, c'mon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musso_kn Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I just heard the side projects of GD. FBHT are awesome, but The Network WTF, c'mon! Noooo...the Network are so much better than Foxboro Hottubs. I don't get everyone's hate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDirnt Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Noooo...the Network are so much better than Foxboro Hottubs. I don't get everyone's hate... lol no FBHT are better by far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Noooo...the Network are so much better than Foxboro Hottubs. I don't get everyone's hate... Wrong! Lol im just messin its your opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 pinhead gunpowder >>> foxboro hottubs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the network But PHGP arent a GD side band... Bille side band but not a GD side band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beejeezee Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Some people don't seem to like 21 Guns all that much, so I guess this goes here. 21 Guns is probably one of my favorite songs, at the very least is holds a lot of sentimental value for me. 21 Guns happened to be the first Green Day song I heard and was the song that made me love Green Day, along with music in general. It got me through some rough times in my life and I still get emotional any time I hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 i know that, although they're a jason side band too so it's somewhat green day related? the main point i was making is that the network sucks anyway so it doesn't matter lol I agree with that cant stand Network lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwise Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I don't get why you're all calling The Network a GD side project, they've made it very clear that it's not. Stop being silly. But I actually do really like The Network, and FBHT, not sure which more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeysturkeyhead Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 The Network are awesome and addictive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snows Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 For those who say you like them, are you kidding me?? Yeah, you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 The Network's songs aren't to be taken that seriously, they're a parody of pretentious 80s new wave music for the most part (with their interesting choice of clothes being a parody of the fashion/style that went with it). I love the tongue in cheek humour of it all, plus a lot of the lyrics are just laugh out loud funny, and a lot of the music isn't half bad either. It's really interesting to hear them doing something so different. Take them for what they are and they're fun and cool. (Although they're not Green Day of course ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubbie Head Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 pinhead gunpowder >>> foxboro hottubs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the network Foxboro Hot Tubs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The Network>>>>>>>>>Pinhead Gunpowder This is my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snows Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I have to listen to the Pinheads... Oh, I'm a Supermodel Robot, what a fuckin' coincidence... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deletethisaccount Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 FoxboroHotTubs? Oh my god, sooo good. But we've all heard that music plenty of times before. I really find The Network more compelling because it's so weird and interesting. It's different. Not totally original when there's bands like say, Digital Leather, but still not a common direction. I love both bands, practically equally, but I appreciate The Network a lot more, because they experimented like mad. I just like weird silly shit sometimes. Though at the same time, FBHT weren't supposed to be taken seriously either. I liked the sex drugs and rock and roll vibe of the foxboro hotubs (until it got to a dangerous level, of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Some people don't seem to like 21 Guns all that much, so I guess this goes here. 21 Guns is probably one of my favorite songs, at the very least is holds a lot of sentimental value for me. 21 Guns happened to be the first Green Day song I heard and was the song that made me love Green Day, along with music in general. It got me through some rough times in my life and I still get emotional any time I hear it. 21 Guns is a very well-made song. It gets hated on by Green Day fans because they are sick of Green Day releasing ballads for singles. Plus, a lot of GD fans has false perceptions on what would be "popular" in mainstream music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blond-O-Sonic Shimmer Trap Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Some people don't seem to like 21 Guns all that much, so I guess this goes here. 21 Guns is probably one of my favorite songs, at the very least is holds a lot of sentimental value for me. 21 Guns happened to be the first Green Day song I heard and was the song that made me love Green Day, along with music in general. It got me through some rough times in my life and I still get emotional any time I hear it. An unpopular opinion! OK now I'll counter with why I absolutely hate the song. It's the very definition of the "taking themselves far too seriously" Green Day that took over after American Idiot and went right into the 21st Century Breakdown album, which is why I don't like it. The character of St. Jimmy laces the American Idiot album with their usual dark sense of humour, so the album itself, whilst being all about the melodrama that goes on inside a disillusioned teenager's head, is fine by me. After the Holiday video, that sense of humour went out the window in favour of super serious, anything to attract the emo kids, the September Ends video was particularly horrific. Then they went and put out 21st Century Breakdown. The cover of that record is yet another example. The video for 21 Guns is another miserable affair, but what's worse is the song itself. It's a bland, formulaic power ballad-by-numbers, a lazy re-write of Boulevard Of Broken Dreams (which itself was a magnificent song, because it came from a real place) that marked itself out immediately as an obvious single purely because of how radio friendly and derivative it was. It screams "let's re-write our biggest single from the last album" and any band who ever does that will always be and should always be treated with suspicion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insomniac45 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Even though it is a Network song, Roshambo is probably one of THE BEST songs ever written by Billie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoopy Doo Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 OH MAH GAWD CAN WE JUST AGREE THAT THE NETWORK AND FBHT ARE BOTH AWESOME!? Srsly though. C'mon guise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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