Strayheart1219 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 i did a really good job convincing myself that never existed... compare oh love to the JOS video and the same themes are all there, but JOS has so much meaning. its not the nakedness or booze really, its the art of it. oh love was just gross. but ugh thats an old can of worms omg jos and oh love can not be compared! JOS had a story line and oh love like you said just had half naked girls and booze. i'm sorry to say but their mid life crises was showing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 omg jos and oh love can not be compared! JOS had a story line and oh love like you said just had half naked girls and booze. i'm sorry to say but their mid life crises was showing Oh love video was about booze and sex the trilogy is about booze and sex i say the video played to the album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stories and songs Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Oh Love is reflective of the trilogy's themes, for sure. I think my hatred toward that video definitely stems from not liking a lot of the themes on the trilogy. I know a lot of people love it or are fine with it, but the drugs, sex, and booze thing isn't for me at all. And my problem with how it was portrayed in the writing for the trilogy is that it was... serious. They were talking about hot chicks and partying and meaning it rather than being goofy about it in the way I would expect them to, and that really bothered me. Talking about this is dredging up how unhappy I was with a lot of what was going on in Green Day land before iHeart happened. Their videos were ridiculous but trying to be serious, their interviews felt very off... it wasn't a good time for me as a Green Day fan. Don't get me wrong, I love this band to pieces, but the month or two leading up to Uno's release, I was really bothered with a lot of what was going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyHandGrenade Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Oh Love is reflective of the trilogy's themes, for sure. I think my hatred toward that video definitely stems from not liking a lot of the themes on the trilogy. I know a lot of people love it or are fine with it, but the drugs, sex, and booze thing isn't for me at all. And my problem with how it was portrayed in the writing for the trilogy is that it was... serious. They were talking about hot chicks and partying and meaning it rather than being goofy about it in the way I would expect them to, and that really bothered me. Talking about this is dredging up how unhappy I was with a lot of what was going on in Green Day land before iHeart happened. Their videos were ridiculous but trying to be serious, their interviews felt very off... it wasn't a good time for me as a Green Day fan. Don't get me wrong, I love this band to pieces, but the month or two leading up to Uno's release, I was really bothered with a lot of what was going on. It probably wasn't that cheery on their end either. Even if you don't like the themes of the trilogy, it helped a lot to have three themes to go with the three albums. Much less confusion/clutter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stories and songs Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 ^ Yeah, I know a lot of what I was perhaps picking up on had to do with what they were dealing with personally. That definitely is why things felt so off during that time. I agree that themes gave nice structure to the albums. It made each individual album very cohesive with its own "personality," if you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strayheart1219 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I agree that Oh Love music video is one of the themes to the trilogy i'm just saying I just didn't like it. Not because there was booze and naked girls just because of how poorly it was put together. Now remember this is just my opinion. For me, compared to their other music videos before the trilogy it was very lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothedOut Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Oh Love is reflective of the trilogy's themes, for sure. I think my hatred toward that video definitely stems from not liking a lot of the themes on the trilogy. I know a lot of people love it or are fine with it, but the drugs, sex, and booze thing isn't for me at all. And my problem with how it was portrayed in the writing for the trilogy is that it was... serious. They were talking about hot chicks and partying and meaning it rather than being goofy about it in the way I would expect them to, and that really bothered me. Same here. I just tried to laugh it off I guess. I read a Dos review complaining about Billie's attempt at being a 'sex pest'. They've never been that sort of band. Now, months after the album's been released, it's got me worrying though. They're probably dealing with a lot in their own lives right now. I just can't help thinking what sort of material they'll be releasing by the time they're Led Zeppelin's age if they allow life's pressures to get to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzkriegdeb Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 All of the band are in their 40s, an age where you can't be considered young but you also can't be considered old, and I feel like with the trilogy they're playing out those emotions of "Can I still do this or am I too old now". Basically, the main "theme" of the trilogy, to me at least, is dealing with a midlife crisis. Like every album they've released, the trilogy just represents a period of time in Green Day, whether they were 19 and leaving home for the first time or 40 and being forced to deal with the realization of that "holy fuck I'm 40". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Oh Love is reflective of the trilogy's themes, for sure. I think my hatred toward that video definitely stems from not liking a lot of the themes on the trilogy. I know a lot of people love it or are fine with it, but the drugs, sex, and booze thing isn't for me at all. And my problem with how it was portrayed in the writing for the trilogy is that it was... serious. They were talking about hot chicks and partying and meaning it rather than being goofy about it in the way I would expect them to, and that really bothered me. Talking about this is dredging up how unhappy I was with a lot of what was going on in Green Day land before iHeart happened. Their videos were ridiculous but trying to be serious, their interviews felt very off... it wasn't a good time for me as a Green Day fan. Don't get me wrong, I love this band to pieces, but the month or two leading up to Uno's release, I was really bothered with a lot of what was going on. I can't remember, were you around when the video premiered? We had such a ... fun ... debate about the subject and I felt the same way you did. It was taken really seriously and it made me feel uncomfortable as all hell. The Holiday video was a joke, it was satire, it was fun. I didn't find anything off with the band before iHeart besides not being happy with the Oh Love video, but in hindsight I saw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE THE X-KID Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 i do think that was a part of it. i mean, if billie hadn't gone to rehab and they were actually able to do promo and all that for the albums they surely would have done better than they have, but even then...rock music just isn't popular in the mainstream right now at all. unless, that is, you count mumford and sons/the lumineers/one of those other indie folksy bands that all sound alike as rock music...which i don't. it's a bummer, because the trilogy is really, really one of my favorite things they've ever done and it deserves to be heard by a wider audience but i don't see that happening. hopefully in a few years when they release their next album the music scene will be in a better place because i'm really sick of hearing the word "irrelevant" thrown around in reference to green day. I know! I don't get how a band can be irrelevant? They're always there I don't listen to a band because they're important at a particular time I listen to them because I like the music... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I know! I don't get how a band can be irrelevant? They're always there I don't listen to a band because they're important at a particular time I listen to them because I like the music... Cause you are a fan of the group so they'll always be relevant to you The Doors hasn't been around since the 70's60's bit to me they are still relevant to me cause I listen to them daily (same with Nirvana Green Day UGK and few other groups) The press or others may say Green Day arent relevant anymore is cause they don't have high sells or a single playing 24/7 at the moment so sales wise radio wise GD are seen by some people as irrelevant But who cares as long as you enjoy the music forget the irrelevant talk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave To The Network Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Not sure if I've already mentioned it, but there are so many damn pages here that I don't want to go back and look. I don't like King For A Day and I've never even seen a performance of it because I don't like the song. I seriously don't even know how they do that song live because I haven't bothered to watch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothedOut Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Not sure if I've already mentioned it, but there are so many damn pages here that I don't want to go back and look. I don't like King For A Day and I've never even seen a performance of it because I don't like the song. I seriously don't even know how they do that song live because I haven't bothered to watch it. Nope. Never heard anyone ever say that about King for a Day. Well, since you don't listen to it much and have never seen them play it here's what I can say about the song. I think King for a Day defined Green Day in the 90s in a way. Unless you got into Green Day after this era, I'm guessing you would've probably got into them for their witty, bratty, and ridiculously funny attitudes and lyrics which is how they were up until American Idiot. I think this song says a lot about them. Not just the lyrics. Everything. I personally like this song because it's so in your face to the rock scene today. Whatever was cool and punk back in the 90s - be it ska, punk rock, or just plain ROCK - Green Day was the king of it all. Watch them perform it live and witness a band smack anyone in the face who thought trumpets, trombones, and shenanigans aren't cool. Or watch Woodstock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Not sure if I've already mentioned it, but there are so many damn pages here that I don't want to go back and look. I don't like King For A Day and I've never even seen a performance of it because I don't like the song. I seriously don't even know how they do that song live because I haven't bothered to watch it. This is crazy to me . You've missed so much hilarity. I highly recommend you watch this video, it will enhance your life Or this one if you prefer an old school performance Or any performance of it lol, it's their most entertaining live song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vespertine Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Yeah but then I think about Fall Out Boy and it blows my mind. Fall out boy is pop rock and I think green days music today is imo pop rock too and Fall Out Boy got so much attention. I was actually just listening to one of Fall Out Boy's new songs and it is way, way, waaaaay poppier than any song in the trilogy. They sound like Fun. or something. The fact that the song is doing well on iTunes makes total sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strayheart1219 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Not sure if I've already mentioned it, but there are so many damn pages here that I don't want to go back and look. I don't like King For A Day and I've never even seen a performance of it because I don't like the song. I seriously don't even know how they do that song live because I haven't bothered to watch it. This really blows my mind because king for a day is the best live. I mean holy fuck you've missed so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Psycho Sexy Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Don't kill me but I never liked name of Green Day :whistleBut really, I don't know why but it always associated me on hipsters and their protests: "save the animals (but you can kill them for shoes)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I think King for a Day defined Green Day in the 90s in a way. I think you're absolutely correct. It has the smartass nature like a lot of the band's lyrics from those days, it's got humor and yet, it's also got heart with its message. However, I think their performances of it are just not that fun anymore. They seem almost rote and I think the time could be spent performing something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Teller Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Don't kill me but I never liked name of Green Day :whistleBut really, I don't know why but it always associated me on hipsters and their protests: "save the animals (but you can kill them for shoes)! Billie Joe Armstrong:"I think we have the worst name in rock, I really do.It's the worst name in the world." As concerns about the "save the animals", Green Day clearly means "smoking marijuana". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marrymebilliejoe Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I agree that Oh Love music video is one of the themes to the trilogy i'm just saying I just didn't like it. Not because there was booze and naked girls just because of how poorly it was put together. Now remember this is just my opinion. For me, compared to their other music videos before the trilogy it was very lazy. I think that is a perfect way to describe the "Oh Love" music video...lazy. At least to me, there was nothing unique about it. I also feel Kill the Dj was the same way. It was a very stereotypical, cookie cutter music video. It didn't have that Green Day-esque air to it. I personally don't see how "oh love" fits in with the trilogy...Billie made the comment that Uno was like classic Green Day, but I don't feel that "oh love" had that sound. And I was not pleased at all when they decided for that song to be their first single. It doesn't really encompass the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Benjamin Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I totally agree. I remember when the trailers were first put out, I was telling everyone I knew (even those who weren't Green Day fans) that these albums were gonna be coming out. I was telling friends, I was telling people at school and everyone thought the whole idea of the trilogy was awesome. I remember when Know Your Enemy was released. Everyone was listening to it. A lot of my friends bought the CD. All was good. And yeah, I'm not much of a dubstep fan either. I have noticed though that when it comes to being a stereotypical outcast nowadays (or at least, from where I come from) the preferred music is metalcore. Those sixteen year olds who would get picked on at school don't go looking for bands like Rancid or Screeching Weasel anymore. And definitely not Green Day or Blink-182. The 'outcasts' of today define rebellion as Asking Alexandria, Pierce the Veil, and Attack-Attack. I personally am not a fan of these bands. To me, rebellion is still what I find in the roots of Green Day - and that's punk rock. I guess people have a different preference of music nowadays. Either that or a different version of the same kind..The bands you just listed gives metalcore a bad name you listed pussycore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave To The Network Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Okay, okay. I will watched King For A Day tonight! The only reason I don't like the song is that it has trumpets in it and I despise most forms of trumpet/brass music. If the live version doesn't have this, then I'm sure I will love it. I also don't like when they have saxaphone in their live songs. Just once I wish they would've played Static Age live without it because that really takes away from my enjoyment of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musso_kn Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Same here. I just tried to laugh it off I guess. I read a Dos review complaining about Billie's attempt at being a 'sex pest'. They've never been that sort of band. Now, months after the album's been released, it's got me worrying though. They're probably dealing with a lot in their own lives right now. I just can't help thinking what sort of material they'll be releasing by the time they're Led Zeppelin's age if they allow life's pressures to get to them. I feel quite the same. The trilogy is probably the first set of Green Day albums where the lyrics seem to have no depth. It kind of ruined the whole three albums for me. Previously, there was either a strong sense of socio-political commentary or just very personal take on relationships and feelings, for example. I think if they found some kind of middle ground between the two kinds of approaches they took before, they could make something special. I think given Billie Joe's experiences in rehab and what appears to me to be a growing hatred of certain genres of modern music, they just might be onto something. I'll always have some hope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Benjamin Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I feel quite the same. The trilogy is probably the first set of Green Day albums where the lyrics seem to have no depth. It kind of ruined the whole three albums for me. Previously, there was either a strong sense of socio-political commentary or just very personal take on relationships and feelings, for example. I think if they found some kind of middle ground between the two kinds of approaches they took before, they could make something special. I think given Billie Joe's experiences in rehab and what appears to me to be a growing hatred of certain genres of modern music, they just might be onto something. I'll always have some hope... oh I have no doubt this next album will skyrocket because of everything he has to write about, I see another ai or Dookie coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musso_kn Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 oh I have no doubt this next album will skyrocket because of everything he has to write about, I see another ai or Dookie coming YESYESYESYESYES...But at the same time, I can't help but feel that's awfully naïve. Arguably they're too 'old' to appeal to the youth anymore. On the other hand, mainstream success isn't all about getting the kiddie winks on board like they did in '94 and '04. There's critical acclaim to be had as well, and I'm certain they aren't past their 'best before' date in terms of musical ability yet! We shall see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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