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Just got my ¡Tre! book in and it's slightly damaged (Because the package was damaged), but it's cool! :D

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Though it's a simple song (and still great imo), I really love this part of 99 Revolutions:

We live in troubled times
From the ghetto to an empty suburban home
We live in troubled times
And I’m 99% sure that something’s wrong
It’s all wrong

..because it's true.

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The thing with Tre is that it's settling with me much better than Uno and Dos. On the previous two albums, once I heard them, I just knew, no matter how hard I tried, I was never going to have that deep connection with them, and even though I listened to them again and again and enjoyed them, I wasn't getting the feeling. With Tre, I get the feeling, and what's even cooler is that after the first listen I was convinced LBNT, SD&V, and Walk Away were among the more forgettable/worst songs on the trilogy, and even if I still feel that's technically the case, for some inexplicable reason, within the context of Tre, I love hearing them, which is something I didn't feel about Baby Eyes or Makeout Party or Troublemaker. I have no idea what it is, maybe I'm deluding myself into thinking Tre is greater than it really is, but considering I failed to delude myself with the first two even though I tried, this must mean that this album is something a tad more special.

I'm not waiting to get to the next song, I'm just enjoying it as it goes. I get a little depressed when X-Kid is over because there is a certain lull for me between that and DRB, but it goes away.

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I just want to say that as much as I deeply admire and appreciate reviews like Melissa Webster's, I think it's overindulgent and kind of irrelevant to steep Tre and the trilogy as a whole in such a concrete narrative. There are songs that very frankly aren't meant to speak to each other. We know Drama Queen was a one-off about celebrity. We know 99 is about Occupy. Even the more personal songs don't have to play into some kind of chronological narrative about ruining your life through party and decadence and then picking up the pieces. I don't know why, but I get strangely resentful toward the over-analyzing and forcing of all these songs into some kind linear story. I know the band attempted to categorize these albums as pre-party, party, post-party redemption, but to discuss them so specifically as evidences of actions, tying the regrets of a song on Tre to the decadence of a song on Dos, seems kind of off to me.

I dunno, I just get uncomfortable seeing reviews going into such detailed story analysis because I think it's inaccurate and not even the band's intent. I think it's fine to do that with American Idiot and 21CB, but these are honest-to-God NOT concept albums.

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^ If I could 'like' that post five times, I would.

Thanks :) I think it stems from "I'd like to simply enjoy this song called 'Missing You' on its own right now and not have to think about how it's a result of a lifetime of bad decisions made on the last two albums that have resulted in the 'protagonist' picking up the pieces after a life of self-destruction." Honestly, it's just a song about missing someone you love.

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I'd just like to say that Little Boy Named Train has grown on me. I don't know why I like it more now but I do. I think listening to it out of the context of the album really helped.

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Alright, time for my review. Those of you who read my reviews for Uno and Dos might be surprised, because - spoiler alert - I actually like Tre. :D

Brutal Love

6/10

It starts nicely, but then it gets kinda weird. I like the slow part of the song, but I don't really like the end. And for some reason, I thought Brutal Love was going to be a loud, fast song. Interesting way to start an album with a slow song.

Missing You

7/10

Love the verses, the chorus is a bit lame, but whatever. I really love the lines

"I searched the moon
I lost my head
I even looked under the bed
I punched the walls
I hit the street
I'm down in the pavement lookin'..."

Nice song overall.

8th Avenue Serenade

6/10

I don't quite get why everyone got so excited about this, it's definitely not one of my favorites on the album. Doesn't really stand out and seems a bit like a fill-in although it's still way better than many songs on Uno and Dos.

Drama Queen

9/10

I absolutely love how this one turned out, it's even better than the live version. Beautiful. The only reason why it doesn't get 10/10 is because the line "She's old enough to bleed now" always makes me cringe. I now he's probably not singing about periods, but I just can't get that image out of my mind.

X-Kid

10/10

Great song! I already loved the little preview we got to hear in that one video. I just like everything about it, nothing more to say.

Sex, Drugs and Violence

9/10

So catchy! I can't get this out of my head for hours. I just really enjoy it.

Little Boy Named Train

4/10

This is one of these songs again. No reasons to put songs like this on an album, it sounds like a B side. There's absolutely nothing special about it, its just boring and uninspired.

Amanda

4/10

See above. Same problem, hence one of the songs I usually skip.

Walk Away

7/10

I actually don't really get why so many people don't like this. I think the chorus has something desperate about it that really fits the rest of the song. I just like the whole feeling of it, because it goes together very well although it might not be that great musically.

Dirty Rotten Bastards

10/10

I first though that the "yeeeeeah, yeeeeah, yeeeeeeah" part was really weird... well, it is. But I got used to it. And I absolutely love the part that comes afterwards with "Calling all the demons, this is the season, ..." It has such a great melody. I don't like the middle part quite as much but still enough for the song deserving a straight 10/10.

99 Revolutions

7/10

I didn't like it at first because of the repetitive chorus, but it grew on me a little and I think it's gonna be a great live song. Although it's not that great, it at least stands out and has something unique to it.

The Forgotten

10/10

Beautiful, absolutely beautiful. It's their best ballad since Good Riddance in my opinion and yes, that means I think it's better than 21 Guns. It's such a beautiful song, I got goosebumps when I listened to it for the first time and I sometimes still do. I hope they'll play it live, because I really wanna hear it.

Overall, Tre gets a 7,4/10 which is way better than Uno and Dos. And it really reflects my opinion on the three albums, because Tre is by far my favorite. It's the only one I want to listen to all day without ever getting bored of it. If it was up to me, they should have taken Little Boy Named Train and Amanda off it and add some of the better songs from Uno and Dos (Nuclear Family, Angel Blue, Fuck Time, Lazy Bones, Kill The DJ, Stay The Night, Carpe Diem and Let Yourself Go) and they would have had one really good album with 18 songs instead of what they have now.

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At about 4:25 in Dirty Rotten Bastards (the guitar solo thingy), I thought I was listening to this Christmas song by Band Aid (Do They Know It's Christmas Time)

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I'd just like to say that Little Boy Named Train has grown on me. I don't know why I like it more now but I do. I think listening to it out of the context of the album really helped.

A similar thing happened to me with Brutal Love. I still think it's a poor choice as opening track, but I must admit it's a good ballad even if it didn't hook me at the very first listen. And what about that miiiiiiind? Great.

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There is one thing that is bothering me, not that people aren't entitled to their own opinion:

- Giving shit to Cavallo about Billie's voice. It was his decision (Billie) to change the way he sings. It's a matter of delivery, not production. If you compare the trilogy, 21CB and AI to the rest of their work it's very noticeable that BJA has been slowly changing his way to sing. Whe? I don't know. But it's Billie's decision. Other than that, I guess the older style would have fitted the trilogy a lot better.

Other than that, I guess iTre! is the grower of the trilogy, while the other albums are more immediate. It will stand the test of time a lot better, while have two stinkers (Amanda and Little Boy Named Train). These albums are still a notch below Dookie, Insomniac, Nimrod and AI, but represent a small "return to form" by the band, while being completely separated entities. Enjoy them for what they are, quick and fun albums with sprinkles of genius in some songs and their fare share of stinkers (2/3 songs per album).

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To me the orchestra on Tré doesn't sound like a real orchestra. :( And the Forgotten is a song which is totally unnecessary. There are too much songs like this and GD doesn't have to write one too.

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There is one thing that is bothering me, not that people aren't entitled to their own opinion:

- Giving shit to Cavallo about Billie's voice. It was his decision (Billie) to change the way he sings. It's a matter of delivery, not production. If you compare the trilogy, 21CB and AI to the rest of their work it's very noticeable that BJA has been slowly changing his way to sing. Whe? I don't know. But it's Billie's decision. Other than that, I guess the older style would have fitted the trilogy a lot better.

I don't think I really noticed that Billie changed the way he sings. What exactly is different?

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Drama Queen

9/10

I absolutely love how this one turned out, it's even better than the live version. Beautiful. The only reason why it doesn't get 10/10 is because the line "She's old enough to bleed now" always makes me cringe. I now he's probably not singing about periods, but I just can't get that image out of my mind.

It is obviously up to interpretation but I think he is singing about periods. Its about teenagers (especially celebrity females) who grow up and take on the role of the attention-seeker by copying what is happening around them. That line is a metaphor for growing up and being cast into a world that can destroy many of these individuals. I don't understand why it is wrong to talk about subjects such as this. In fact, this is one of my favorite lines in the whole trilogy.

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I was sleeping and my dad just walked into my room and threw the ¡Tré! package at me! What a great thing to wake up to! Can't wait to listen to it tonight!

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Why is Little Boy Named Train so disliked :'( It's one of my favorites.

On the cover of Tre there's a sticker that writes "featuring X-Kid,8th Avenue Serenade and 99 Revolutions"...Are these the singles?

Also on the cover of Dos there's a sticker that writes "feauturing Amy,Stop When The Red Lights Flash and Stray Heart".

X-Kid you say, eh? If that's true, hehe...
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I don't think I really noticed that Billie changed the way he sings. What exactly is different?

The only thing I've noticed is that his singing has got a lot better. I don't think I've ever noticed his voice going up and down on one word (I have no idea what the technical term for that is :confused: ) before. Like in Drama Queen, he sings qu-ee-ee-ee-ee-n on different notes. And his vocals sound much cleaner, probably because of the production. But I love it. You can even hear the saliva in his mouth and the sound of his breathing.

Edit: that last bit came out way creepier than I intended...

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The only thing I've noticed is that his singing has got a lot better. I don't think I've ever noticed his voice going up and down on one word (I have no idea what the technical term for that is :confused: ) before. Like in Drama Queen, he sings qu-ee-ee-ee-ee-n on different notes. And his vocals sound much cleaner, probably because of the production. But I love it. You can even hear the saliva in his mouth and the sound of his breathing.

Edit: that last bit came out way creepier than I intended...

Brutal Love alone shows that his vocals has come a long way.

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Lately ive been thinking...

Sex, drugs and violence = wild, reckless life

English, math and science = educated, safe life

Safety with numbers = you check stats of whatever to feel safe..

(BUT) gimme gimme danger = you want to live this wild reckless life

What do you think? :)

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Lately ive been thinking...

Sex, drugs and violence = wild, reckless life

English, math and science = educated, safe life

Safety with numbers = you check stats of whatever to feel safe..

(BUT) gimme gimme danger = you want to live this wild reckless life

What do you think? :)

I think you're not the first to think this :P

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