blitzkriegdeb Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 The first thing I thought about "Little Boy Named Train" was that the boy didn't really have a name or identity; much like a train is constantly traveling across different areas to reach its destination he'll be traveling across different areas to find his identity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Thanks for posting this - with so many disjointed stories and half truths about this song it's good to go back to the source, and now listening to it makes more sense. The little boy named Train was being brought up genderless and nameless because of the mishandled sexuality of one of his two 'mums' by his/her parents - which makes the daisy chain idea finally work - he's the victim - of a victim- of fucked parenting. Firstly thanks to GreenDayNimrod for posting the link to the article...i have been going nuts lately telling people what Billie said the song was about in that article but couldnt scan it and cant link it from my crappy phone! Umm...think you have it a bit wrong SuzD...the Little Boy Named Train IS the hermaphrodite (one of the mums). If you re-read it you may see...i think Billie is talking about how the boy who was in school with his son had a parent and THEY experienced this as a child...you know they were a hermaphrodite and had their penis removed so as to be raised genderless (hence they are technically now one of the two women raising the kid in school with Billie's child) and because they were genderless they never really had a proper name so one day it was Tiger then Train etc. But the point is it wasn't the victim of the victim of bad parenting or whatever...it was just one set of fucked up parents...so it doesn't explain your daisy chain im afraid...there are other less savoury explanations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slappypunk Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Wow! Haven't heard about 3 Bad Jacks in a while! I saw them about 14 years ago and loved them! Bought the cd, Made of Stone(?), and was meh. Anyhow, they were awesome live. Great rockabilly band. Psychobilly is more lame stuff like Tiger Army. Anyway, thanks for bringin up some old memories. I used to wear my Three Bad Jacks shirt all the time for years! Wow! Haven't heard about 3 Bad Jacks in a while! I saw them about 14 years ago and loved them! Bought the cd, Made of Stone(?), and was meh. Anyhow, they were awesome live. Great rockabilly band. Psychobilly is more lame stuff like Tiger Army. Anyway, thanks for bringin up some old memories. I used to wear my Three Bad Jacks shirt all the time for years! Hey now Psychobilly is still great lol. But yeah Brutal Love reminds me of TBJs and some good ol' 50s music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isabel Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 After the first listen, I think Tre is probably the worst out of the three. Can't believe it, so utterly disappointed. Uno is the only one that I could listen to fully without wanting to skip a song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyCobra Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 anyone else hear some Elvis in Brutal Love? It's fucking fantastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drugstore hooligan Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Really warming up to walk away now. I thought i was really boring on first listen, now it packs quite an emotional punch. What a difference a day (or two) makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob2123 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Rolling Stone is a good magazine sometimes, but you would think that for an album that gets 4/5 stars, they would write more than 2 paragraphs and mention more than just the opening and closing tracks, y'know? Lazy, sloppy journalism... I'm waiting for the Huffington Post review. The lady that writes that is a massive Green Day fan. It should be a pretty fun read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbags Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I keep loving this album more and more. I didn't feel this way at all about the other two... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanD Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 One... I love Green Day. Two... They're my favorite band. Three... I'm not going sit here and defend everything they do. Tre absolutely was horrendous. Everyone hyped it up to be the best of the trilogy and I was so excited, only to hear it and be extremely disappointed. It was an absolute snoozefest. Brutal Love is not some amazing top-of-the-line opening track. It's too long, repetitive and boring. Now we find ourselves on Missing You, a barely average track, which picks up the pace a little bit but the lyrics are so cliche and redundant it's not even funny. It almost seems like they're not trying. Next up - 8th Avenue Serenade and Drama Queen - both respectfully inadequate, the latter even more so. Those lyrics are "she's old enough to bleed now?" Come on. Talk about cringeworthy. X-Kid is getting a whole lot of praise but I don't see it. I nearly fell asleep during that one. The album does have a few highlights nonetheless, one of those being Sex, Drugs, & Violence. It wasn't astounding, it didn't blow me away, but it was a nice change of pace from the rest of the album. Mike's part was a nice surprise, The album takes another turn for the worst after the passable Little Boy Named Train with Amanda. "Amanda, I'm a man now"... That's not clever...witty....funny....or anything close to it. The songwriting on this trilogy hasn't been the best I know, but God can you get anymore awful? Shouldn't have asked...up next is Walk Away. This is the song I will use as an example as to prove why this album is ass. The same overdone subject matter we've seen time and time again. I hate radio rock. Next, I do get a pleasant surprise with Dirty Rotten Bastards, the only track which I THOROUGHLY enjoyed the whole way through. It sounded like they had fun with it. 99 Revolutions was OK. I hate The Forgotten more than I hate Oh Love. And it suffers from the same problem Oh Love does, except it's somehow even slower. If you ever want to go to sleep, I recommend you listen to this album. Before you all start saying this or that - I LIKED Uno and Dos! I'm a pretty optimistic person and had fun with those two records. There were songs I hated (Sweet 16, Oh Love, Fuck Time, Wild One) but generally I enjoyed them. I loved Kill The DJ and Nightlife, I love how they experimented and went somewhere new. With Tre, they didn't do that whatsoever. Radio rock is garbage and I know Green Day has been close to before, but never to this extent. I'm so disappointed I've never hated a Green Day album until now, and trust me, I've tried to be optimistic about Tre but I can't sit through this made for radio crap. Another complaint with the trilogy as a WHOLE, it lacks punch. The riffs aren't memorable. The choruses, albeit some were very catchy, are forgettable. It's too polished. Everything about it sounds cleaned up and polished. Billie's voice doesn't sound like Billie's voice...It's WAY too clean and WAY too boring. It's not raw. It doesn't sound like anything close to what you would hear live. None of these albums really sound like any former album. There's not the rawness of "Take Back" the nasily, angry "Brat" or the absurd catchiness of "Basket Case". None of this sounds like Green Day to me. I know bands change, and I appreciate that. But it doesn't sound like they're evolving. It sounds like they're de-evolving and not putting all their hearts into it. The trilogy feels mostly sloppy and lazy. This is coming from someone who LOVES Green Day and would support them to the end of time....I'm disappointed. good for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjafan129 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 ¡DOS!>¡UNO!>¡TRE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather. Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I have to say DRB is perfection top to bottom, except the first transition out of the opening section... the guitar parts make me think of Troublemaker for just 3 seconds, and that's enough of a negative connotation to throw me off for a bit until I can regain focus of the ensuing awesomeness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomoo Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 This album is the best of the trilogy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather. Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Random thoughts on some of the "middle songs" that I'm trying to give more of a chance: I don't hate SD&V, but listening to it, I can't imagine it being very exciting at all to hear live. "Sex drugs and violence, english math and science" would be so boring. It'll be interesting to see if they play it live and if it comes to life more, because in my head this would fall even more flat live than it does on the album. Amanda --- I like it, but why the weird vocal filter? Walk Away is growing on me. I was pretty luke cold about it before. LBNT - Like most of the lyrics (except stupid lines like "serious people are funny to me, funny people seem so serious"... I like the point he's making, but man...) melody is still very lame. This might be the worst track on the trilogy, sadly (I like Nightlife) Because the other songs I don't care for on this trilogy, like Makeout Party and Troublemaker, at least they have a distinctive sound that I'm rebelling against... this has nothing going for it. There's nothing to hate... it's simply not a song to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1039SweetChildren Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I agree about the "middle tracks". I don't get why they threw 4 semi-weak tracks back to back. Little Boy Named Train is my least favorite from the trilogy as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesauce Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Here's a random review I found. Yes, since I'm not listening to the album until I have it, I repeatedly type "Green Day" and search news in google for reviews. This one is a little more fleshed out than Rolling Stone http://www.rockcellarmagazine.com/2012/12/06/green-day-closes-out-trilogy-on-a-high-note-with-consistent-tre-album-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrongWayToSalvation Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I agree about the "middle tracks". I don't get why they threw 4 semi-weak tracks back to back. Little Boy Named Train is my least favorite from the trilogy as well. It didn't really fulfill the whole "epic" thing either, at least not album wide. Just Brutal Love, DRB, and The Forgotten could be considered "epic". I was hoping they'd utilize more instruments and CHANGE THE FUCKING GUITAR SOUNDS AND USE SOME EFFECTS. That would have worked wonders. Hell, maybe even use interesting vocal effects to add more variety and personality to certain songs that needed them (i.e LBNT and SD&V). Also, the intro to Amanda shouldn't have been taken out, because that made the song bleed too much into LBNT and made them kind of meld together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeinekenFuckThatShit Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 My favorites from Tre are Dirty Rotten Bastards, X-Kid, Brutal Love... and I love Walk Away more with each listen, would be a perfect first single. This album is my favorite of the trilogy, the only songs I'm not in love with are Sex, Drugs & Violence, Drama Queen, and Little Boy Named Train. Once I get past the middle tracks, it picks back up again and carries to the end. I'd probably like The Forgotten more if I hadn't already heard it before the release though, plus I think between the 2 ballads, Brutal Love blows it away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homero Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 LBNT - Like most of the lyrics (except stupid lines like "serious people are funny to me, funny people seem so serious"... I like the point he's making, but man...) melody is still very lame. This might be the worst track on the trilogy, sadly Really? I like that song now and the part "like a life long daisy chain, of my imagination" has the rhythm of some old songs that fits really good I think (takes me back to Nimrod). And Mike's bass helps with that in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuan Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 ¡DOS!>¡UNO!>¡TRE! Does that mean the fav is tre or dos? *culture shock or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDgirl86 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 The more I listen to it, I see they saved the best for last, this is truly an amazing bunch of songs. Not sure why, I just wasn't feeling most of Uno....some songs I liked, but I'm realizing it was not my favoritie. Dos was much better, LOVED some of the songs, but Tre is just blowing me away! Sick of hearing "i-heart radio on demand" in the middle of every song though, can't wait until next week when I can actually get my own. LOVE LOVE LOVE "Amanda", " Brutal Love" and "Walk Away", also I would have to say "X-Kid" and "Dirty Rotten Bastards" are great also. I don't understand why people are so freaked out by "Drama Queen", I mean I do, but so what if that was what he was saying, which I don't think it was, I think it has meaning on several different levels. Least favorites are "Little Boy named Train" and "8th Avenue Serenade" but I'm sure they will grow on me. I know a lot of people dislike "The Forgotten", but I think it is beautiful if you take away that association of that awful movie. I think "Missing You" is very sweet. I just love this "album".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
! Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I agree about the "middle tracks". I don't get why they threw 4 semi-weak tracks back to back. Little Boy Named Train is my least favorite from the trilogy as well. It's not like they thought the songs were weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmycon Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 ¡DOS!>¡UNO!>¡TRE! Does that mean the fav is tre or dos? *culture shock or something "Dos is greater than Uno is greater than Tre" is what that line reads So Dos is the favourite and Tre is the worst... Other way around for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Tre Uno Dos for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather. Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Sorry if I missed discussion about this but I just want to confirm... the sticker on the cover of Tre indicates that the "singles" are X-Kid, 8th Ave Serenade, and 99 Revolutions, correct? (Whatever that will mean...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnout98 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I was actually blown away by this album. I still have no clue what my favourite album is because they were all astounding, and that is the reason why this band is so amazing. Dirty Rotten Bastards and Missing You on constant repeat for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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