Yaz. Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 just listened to oh love and its pretty crazy how different it is from stuff on Dos and Tre they change soo much between 1 and 3 its pretty fucking cool I appreciate the whole trilogy a lot more now that we can listen to everything....yknow Yeah..this. It'll be impossible for me to pick a favourite for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrouch33 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 There's a tab on the tre tab thread. thanks!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I don't think so! I think (correct me if I'm wrong) it's supposed to be about one of Billie's friends that committed suicide? I'm struggling to deal with it right now because I lost a friend who was only 19 last year, the song makes me feel way too sad. That's what I love about music though, it can mean completely different things to different people. Agreed that it can be foreseen as a sad song...but the music and the way he sings it just puts me in a good mood. Lifts the spirits kind of way. Obviously, the lyrics are like reaching out to someone to help, prevent them from failing, and with them ultimately ending up as X-Kid. To me, he didn't sing it as a sad song or mourning song. So it just gives me a good vibe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron. Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 One... I love Green Day. Two... They're my favorite band. Three... I'm not going sit here and defend everything they do. Tre absolutely was horrendous. Everyone hyped it up to be the best of the trilogy and I was so excited, only to hear it and be extremely disappointed. It was an absolute snoozefest. Brutal Love is not some amazing top-of-the-line opening track. It's too long, repetitive and boring. Now we find ourselves on Missing You, a barely average track, which picks up the pace a little bit but the lyrics are so cliche and redundant it's not even funny. It almost seems like they're not trying. Next up - 8th Avenue Serenade and Drama Queen - both respectfully inadequate, the latter even more so. Those lyrics are "she's old enough to bleed now?" Come on. Talk about cringeworthy. X-Kid is getting a whole lot of praise but I don't see it. I nearly fell asleep during that one. The album does have a few highlights nonetheless, one of those being Sex, Drugs, & Violence. It wasn't astounding, it didn't blow me away, but it was a nice change of pace from the rest of the album. Mike's part was a nice surprise, The album takes another turn for the worst after the passable Little Boy Named Train with Amanda. "Amanda, I'm a man now"... That's not clever...witty....funny....or anything close to it. The songwriting on this trilogy hasn't been the best I know, but God can you get anymore awful? Shouldn't have asked...up next is Walk Away. This is the song I will use as an example as to prove why this album is ass. The same overdone subject matter we've seen time and time again. I hate radio rock. Next, I do get a pleasant surprise with Dirty Rotten Bastards, the only track which I THOROUGHLY enjoyed the whole way through. It sounded like they had fun with it. 99 Revolutions was OK. I hate The Forgotten more than I hate Oh Love. And it suffers from the same problem Oh Love does, except it's somehow even slower. If you ever want to go to sleep, I recommend you listen to this album. Before you all start saying this or that - I LIKED Uno and Dos! I'm a pretty optimistic person and had fun with those two records. There were songs I hated (Sweet 16, Oh Love, Fuck Time, Wild One) but generally I enjoyed them. I loved Kill The DJ and Nightlife, I love how they experimented and went somewhere new. With Tre, they didn't do that whatsoever. Radio rock is garbage and I know Green Day has been close to before, but never to this extent. I'm so disappointed I've never hated a Green Day album until now, and trust me, I've tried to be optimistic about Tre but I can't sit through this made for radio crap. Another complaint with the trilogy as a WHOLE, it lacks punch. The riffs aren't memorable. The choruses, albeit some were very catchy, are forgettable. It's too polished. Everything about it sounds cleaned up and polished. Billie's voice doesn't sound like Billie's voice...It's WAY too clean and WAY too boring. It's not raw. It doesn't sound like anything close to what you would hear live. None of these albums really sound like any former album. There's not the rawness of "Take Back" the nasily, angry "Brat" or the absurd catchiness of "Basket Case". None of this sounds like Green Day to me. I know bands change, and I appreciate that. But it doesn't sound like they're evolving. It sounds like they're de-evolving and not putting all their hearts into it. The trilogy feels mostly sloppy and lazy. This is coming from someone who LOVES Green Day and would support them to the end of time....I'm disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iltrenta Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I think Brutal Love is a weak opening track, too long and too slow, although it's a nice following of Dos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy the Kid Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I think some these names would be up there too: Noel Gallagher Frank Ocean (lyrically) Kurt Cobain Bruno Mars (Musically, he's one of the best pop writers) Eminem (Lyrically again) Wtf is up with young people these days? Bruno Mars? Are you seriously comparing Bruno Mars and Frank Ocean with Noel, Kurt, Eminem and Billie? Damn, get those ears checked, learn something about music. Here are two writers better than everybody mentioned (including Billie): Maynard James Keenan (he is 10 years older but has been around for about the same time) Dani Filth (read his books and his poems, in and out of Cradle. Just read Funeral in Carpathia or Bathory Aria) Cheers, listen to something other than pop pls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron. Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Wtf is up with young people these days? Bruno Mars? Are you seriously comparing Bruno Mars and Frank Ocean with Noel, Kurt, Eminem and Billie? Cheers, listen to something other than pop pls. Get your ears checked. Frank Ocean is an absolutely fucking phenomenal singer, songwriter, and musician channel ORANGE is the magnum opus of indie R&B and was better than Uno, Dos, and Tre combined. He writes better songs than Billie. Have you heard the lyrics on this trilogy? Atrocious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendayawtw Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 If you take the verse from Dirty Rotten Bastards and the chorus from Amy... thats Shoplifter! I love how with every song you can sort of make a connection back to another song from a past record. The trilogy is like a big nostalgic soundtrack to everything they are as a band and have been since "ninteen fuckin' eighty eight". It also looks forward to the future, though, and assures everyone that they're not giving up. I can't wait to see them, whenever they reschedule to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaHawk2009 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 TRE is definitely growing on me the more I listen, still like DOS more though. Although I absolutely LOVE X-Kid and Dirty Rotten Bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter. Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 It's a shame you didn't enjoy this record. I really liked it, all of the songs, maybe except for Drama Queen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwise Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Yeah, I love this record a great deal. Not sure if it's my favorite of the trilogy, though. I think I'm just going to end up digesting the trilogy as a whole and count it as one album because it's all really great stuff. On the topic of Billie as a songwriter, I honestly believe he is one of the best songwriters of his generation. And also my personal favorite song writer of all time, and I've heard a lot of fuckin' songs from a lot of fuckin' people. His songwriting resonates with me in a way no one else's does I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I have personally enjoyed the way this band has matured. I mean, you can pick any part or point in their career with an album and relate it to young youth life, figuring yourself out, angry and lost teen years, to the feel good outcasts of the world, to storytelling, to maturing adults with families that just want to jam and have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drugstore hooligan Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I was one of the few on here who seemed to be underwhelmed by tre. Its not as immediate as Uno or Dos. A lot of the songs are more laid back and poppy. That took me by suprise on the first listen. Also from sex drugs and violence to walk away they all kinda blend together on first listen.So i was feeling a little let down at first. But now after a couple of listens im really starting to appreciate tre. Its not as sarcastic as Uno or as fiery as Dos which at first makes it seem a bit meh. But give it time. It is defo a grower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaded Nimrod Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 "What the fuck does 'ok' stand for?" One of the greatest lines ever (from Dirty Rotten Bastards, which kicks ass musically and lyrically, btw) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy the Kid Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 After listening to iTRE! more than once and knowing the songs, I can safely say this album is the best and the worst of the trilogy. Why? It has the worst songs and the best songs at the same time. Track-by-track: 1. Brutal Love - This song is a grower. I don't know how can anyone say it repeats a lot, it just sounds like "Green Day meets The Beatles". Take Let It Be: It's one of history's best songs and it repeats a lot. I'm just comparing them structure wise, don't worry. BL is a sincere song, a type of ballad that GD have never tried before, and it works. (9/10) 2. Missing You - It sounds very old school, has kind of a "She" vibe. The lyrics are competent, the chorus is catchy, what can one possibly wan't more? It's the equivalent to Stay the Night, only better. (9.0/10) 3. 8th Avenue Serenade - The first riff is annoying, the "whoooo" parte after the first verse is annoying. Had it been better worked on and could have been one of the trilogy's, but just sounds mediocre this way. (6/10) 4. Drama Queen - A sweet ballad, only the lyrics ruin it. Needed a lot of work on that department, but is still an enjoyable song. (7/10) 5. X-Kid - It's one of the best songs on the trilogy. Well written, doesn't give to much on the beginning, starts slow but quickly picks up. The backing vocals are simply amazing. The chorus is the best of the whole trilogy, it just penetrates your brain to never leave again. Oh, and it's one of Green Day's best songs ever. Period. (10/10) 6. Sex, Drugs & Violence - Sounds cool, but nothing more. The lyrics are a little annoying, the first songs just reminds me of Nuclear Family a little slowed down and with subpar arrangements. (6/10) 7. Little Boy Named Train - This is definitely the low point of the album. Annoying song. And it's not a grower, it's a "shorter". It's even more annoying after 10 listens. (5/10) 8. Amanda - C-side of Ashley? Next! (5/10) 9. Walk Away - Arena Rock number. Sounds like it came straight from a child of Warning and American Idiot. Maybe it's from C&V? We can only speculate. The chorus is very simple but sounds so sugary, so sweet, so epic... And the song itself is not that bad. (7/10) 10. Dirty Rotten Bastards - The transitions are smooth, the lyrics very good, the solos amazing, the pace just perfect. The only annoying bit is the rhythm, recycled from Shoplifter. But still an amazing song, one of the best from the trilogy. And the "rabadabadey" on the first pre-chorus is so well placed it's impossible not to sing it. (10/10) 11. 99 Revolutions - The lyrics are very positive, the song sounds a little like Stay the Night meets Nuclear Family and Lazy Bones, but it's a very strong number. (8/10) 12. The Forgotten - I loved the song, but after listening to Brutal Love it just sounds forced. The first one is so much better it's not even funny. Still a strong number on the album. (8/10) Final Score: 8/10 (not an average) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Just listened to Dirty Rotten Bastards. That was the most exciting song from all 3 albums by far. Loved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregorovich Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Sounds like it came straight from a child of Warning and American Idiot. Maybe it's from C&V? It is indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy the Kid Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Get your ears checked. Frank Ocean is an absolutely fucking phenomenal singer, songwriter, and musician channel ORANGE is the magnum opus of indie R&B and was better than Uno, Dos, and Tre combined. He writes better songs than Billie. Have you heard the lyrics on this trilogy? Atrocious. R&B is not R&B. Go listen to some real R&B from the 50's and 60's. He just sounds like a clean version of Kanye West. And please, don't compare "R&B" with Pop Punk/Power Pop, it's like comparing Michael Jackson with Metallica. But if you still want to compare songwriting, please show me one piece of his music half relevant compared to Dookie or AI. Please, show me. Green Day hasn't been around for 2 days and haven't released only these 3 albums, correct? And go read some lyrics of the artists I provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 The best thing about listening to UNO at the beginning with Nuclear Family is that there is 36 more awesome songs following! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Bras Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I also want to point out- Where did our lyrical master go? I was really expecting this to be lyrically better than the other 2 but i was proved so wrong on every song after Drama Queen. I'm the son of Rage and Love, the Jesus of Suburbia-to- LET YOURSELF GO, LET YOURSELF GO, LET YOURSELF GOOOO Cause I'm thinking bout a brand new hope, one I've never known, cause now I know its all that I wanted-to- ITS 99 REVOLUTIONS TONIGHT x's 100 You can do this with any song, It's making me sad because I do feel like they were losing it. What about Sweet 16, Rusty James, Oh Love, Wild One, Stray Heart, Wow! That's Loud!, Amy, Brutal Love, X-Kid, Little Boy Named Train, Amanda, Walk Away, Dirty Rotten Bastards and The Forgotten? Of course its easy criticize the lyrics comparing Jesus of Suburbia (Very deep lyrics) with repetitive songs like Let Yourself Go and 99 Revolutions I can easily compare Are We the Waiting, Know Your Enemy, Warning, Static Age, American Idiot (Repetitive lyrics) with Brutal Love, X-Kid, Dirty Rotten Bastards, The Forgotten, Walk Away or Amanda.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asa. Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I don't think the "Walk Away" we got is the same "Walk Away" as the one from C&V. But that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malleus Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I also want to point out- Where did our lyrical master go? I was really expecting this to be lyrically better than the other 2 but i was proved so wrong on every song after Drama Queen. I'm the son of Rage and Love, the Jesus of Suburbia-to- LET YOURSELF GO, LET YOURSELF GO, LET YOURSELF GOOOO Cause I'm thinking bout a brand new hope, one I've never known, cause now I know its all that I wanted-to- ITS 99 REVOLUTIONS TONIGHT x's 100 You can do this with any song, It's making me sad because I do feel like they were losing it. You could, you know, bring up other lyrics than the chorus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeysturkeyhead Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Get your ears checked. Frank Ocean is an absolutely fucking phenomenal singer, songwriter, and musician channel ORANGE is the magnum opus of indie R&B and was better than Uno, Dos, and Tre combined. He writes better songs than Billie. Have you heard the lyrics on this trilogy? Atrocious. If you're gonna say that, talk like it's your opinion, don't talk like "What I say is right". When did you become an expert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy the Kid Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I don't think the "Walk Away" we got is the same "Walk Away" as the one from C&V. But that's just me. I guess it's possible it is, since, to me, it sounds like Warning and American Idiot combined. But that's just me, even if it isn't it's a good song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asa. Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I guess it's possible it is, since, to me, it sounds like Warning and American Idiot combined. But that's just me, even if it isn't it's a good song. I think its great, and I guess we don't know much about C&V so I kinda made an assumption, but I guess its not what I expected as C&V material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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