Heather. Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I think a LOT of people love Castaway off of Warning, so I'm not really sure where that comparison came from She's A Rebel I understand, most people consider it one of the weaker songs on AI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBaboon Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I think I agree with the missing you point. It's like a castaway or she's a rebel, a solid song that I enjoy but would never consider the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDirnt Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 For me, Missing You is pretty much in the top of my ranking for ¡Tré! and maybe for the trilogy. It's such a badass song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blond-O-Sonic Shimmer Trap Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I think a LOT of people love Castaway off of Warning, so I'm not really sure where that comparison came from She's A Rebel I understand, most people consider it one of the weaker songs on AI. OK maybe Deadbeat Holiday is a better comparison. You'll always get that person who says "this one is my favourite from that album" but I was meaning more about the consensus view of the best songs on each album. I usually at least see where people are coming from even if I prefer other ones (like I can see why people think Tre is the best in the trilogy even though my favourite is Dos) but I just think Missing You has been done many times before, on Nimrod, Warning, Shenanigans and Uno, as well as having another four similar songs on Tre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeysturkeyhead Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 OK maybe Deadbeat Holiday is a better comparison. Deadbeat Holiday is also one of my favorites from Warning. Man, Warning is one of my favorite albums and it wasn't very successfull and my favorite songs are mostly the stranger/less famous/less popular/considered fillers songs. I guess She's A Rebel became one of my favorites because it was one of my favorites when I started listening to GD. So was She, The Static Age, American Eulogy, Homecoming and Castaway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisionsofGreenDay115 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Am I the only one who doesn't think the "old enough to bleed" line is creepy? Like, I can't even see how it can interpreted as creepy at all. Every time I hear this line, I think of a girl old enough to start her period. My sick mind... I know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blond-O-Sonic Shimmer Trap Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Every time I hear this line, I think of a girl old enough to start her period. My sick mind... I know... It's impossible not to. Regardless of how people "interpret" it, or what he actually meant by it. I can accept that he intended it to mean something about growing up emotionally, but the plain and simple fact is that it still sounds like he's referencing a kid who's just started having her period. At best, it's clumsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iltrenta Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 In my opinion "You'd better call a lawyer" is a more disturbing line than "she's old enough to bleed now", it makes the narrator sound like a creepy old man obsessed with that young celebrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stories and songs Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 My interpretation of "You better call a lawyer" is that this girl is always getting into trouble with the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthehallwaynow Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 drama queen not creepy jesus christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather. Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I think Drama Queen is intentionally creepy. There's no way Billie didn't know what he was doing when he wrote it, and there's no way Tre, Mike, Rob, whoever didn't say "Dude, is this what I think this is?" Yeah. Even if it has multiple or other original meanings, it's left that way on purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cob Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 This has probably been discussed but looking at the screenshot lyrics to Gabriella on Quatro, where it says "you were crushing my heart like a battering ram" and other lyrics that are now in Amanda, I definitely think "Amanda" is just a name Billie made up to describe this ex-girlfriend, and for a while he was toying with the idea of naming her Gabriella. Hell, Ashley could be the same girl, he just wanted to mix it up. If Billie Joe is to be trusted, "Amanda" is the actual name of his ex-girlfriend. He said it in a speech before they played the song live at the Tiki Bar or Red 7, not sure which. Basically he said "Your first love is like a re-occurring dream, one that creeps up from time to time in your life." Then he starts talking about all the songs about her, finally ending "I finally thought fuck it I'm going to name the girl, fuck it it's been 19 fucking years this song is called Amanda." And on the other point of discussion, Castaway is an excellent song. Great sentiment, great tempo, fantastic lyrics and one of Mike Dirnt's best basslines. What's not to love? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykee Mexx Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I agree with you, Heather. And that´s why I love this song. I like the ambiguity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unholy Sister of Grace Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 "Old enough to bleed now" threw me off at first because it's a man saying something that girls experience very personally, and it's also a sign of sexual maturity. But the song and the line doesn't creep me out. I consider myself quite reserved (which makes being a Green Day fan very interesting), but I don't find it creepy, only a little uncomfortable to hear at first. "Daddy's little bundle of joy out of a magazine" makes me think of either tabloids or something like Playboy (or worse). Paparazzi photos or pornography where these once precious and pure little stars are becoming adult women, like Lindsay Lohan, Miley Cyrus, even Dakota Fanning or Kristen Stewart. Not all of them take the same lost route, but they do increase their sex appeal as they age before the cameras. Thay'"Old enough to bleed now" threw me off at first because it's a man saying something that girls experience very personally, and it's also a sign of sexual maturity. But the song and the line doesn't creep me out. I consider myself quite reserved (which makes being a Green Day fan very interesting), but I don't find it creepy, only a little uncomfortable to hear at first. "Daddy's little bundle of joy out of a magazine" makes me think of either tabloids or something like Playboy (or worse). Paparazzi photos or pornography where these once precious and pure little stars are becoming adult women, like Lindsay Lohan, Miley Cyrus, even Dakota Fanning or Kristen Stewart. Not all of them take the same lost route, but they do increase their sex appeal as they age before the cameras. That's how I take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJN Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Well, lets look at some lyrics man! Let's look at the title and pre-chorus line, that's our biggest hint: X-Kid. This is a play off the phrase "Ex-Kid", meaning that this person never really grew up, they're not a mature adult, just a grown person that used to be a kid; "a boy trapped in the body of a man", if you will. So right there we understand that the song is describing someone juvenile, a person who's an adult but doesn't act like/feel like one. This is immediately described in the songs opening lines: "Hey little kid/did you wake up late one day/you're not so young/but you're still dumb" "And you're numb to all your glory/now it's gone"- To me, this describes the way the Ex-Kid has ignored their life; they kept trying to emulate the past and keep living young, to the point where they forgot about what made their youth great in the first place ("numb to all your glory"). Now his past truly is gone, he's gotten to the point where he can't remember it or relive it, which completely eliminates how and why hes living his life this way in the present. The line you mentioned, "I fell in love, but it didn't catch your fall" looks like a couple things to me: 1) The Ex-Kid fell in love but the person they fell in love with left or rejected them, likely because of their immaturity. And 2) the fact that the line says "I fell in love, but it didn't catch your fall" hints that the narrator singing this song relates too or sees themselves in the Ex-Kid; however the narrator is still loved by someone or wasn't rejected while the Ex-Kid was. "Then I crashed into a wall/Then I fell to pieces on the floor/now you're sick to death": Obviously, the rejection or loss of love shattered the life of the Ex-Kid, and it was made even worse by the lack of maturity he had. However, like in the "fell in love" line, the narrator is putting himself in the Ex-Kid's boots and relating to him. It could also be the narrator's reaction to the eventual death of the Ex-Kid and relating that to the shock that the Ex-Kid felt when he was abandoned or rejected by his lover : "Then I crashed into a wall/Then I fell to pieces on the floor." The Chorus: "Bombs Away/Here goes nothing/ the shouting's over" Obviously the Ex-Kid is taking some sort of risk or leap of faith, this could allude to his suicide. That would explain the line "The shouting's over and out/over and out again", the show is over, there is nothing left to see so it's time to check out and leave, essentially. The Ex-Kid sees that the party is over, he hasn't grown up, and he's always lived his life in a risky way, so here goes nothing: Tragically, he kills himself. Shall I go on to the rest? I want to know if you agree before continuing to the rest of the song. Very nicely done. Only part that is still a bit sticky to me is that "I fell in love, but it didn't catch your fall" line. But I just had a thought. Perhaps the narrator is not just simply relating to ex-kid, but hoped his own 'growing up' or falling in love, starting a family would lead ex-kid to eventually do the same. Please continue though I very much enjoy your interpretation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather. Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 If Billie Joe is to be trusted, "Amanda" is the actual name of his ex-girlfriend. He said it in a speech before they played the song live at the Tiki Bar or Red 7, not sure which. Basically he said "Your first love is like a re-occurring dream, one that creeps up from time to time in your life." Then he starts talking about all the songs about her, finally ending "I finally thought fuck it I'm going to name the girl, fuck it it's been 19 fucking years this song is called Amanda." Saying "I'm going to name the girl" doesn't mean that's her name, if anything it's him saying "I'm going to give her a name." He also said on Twitter a while ago that her name was Amanda when talking about why he wrote She and Whatsername. Yep: Billie Joe Armstrong @BJAofficial "She" is about a girl named Amanda. So is Sasafrats roots(title by Mike) and so is "whatsername".. Ooh.. That's a good factoid However I still think Gabriella could just as well be about her, and that the specifics of his feelings about this girl are probably dispersed or confused with "Ashley" and whatever songs are about vague un-named girls on these albums. My point is the identity doesn't really matter, she takes on many forms and her name doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie, get your gun Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I think nobody expected the last "♪But I know where I have been♫" on Little Boy Named Train I don't know how to call it, but to me it's another big moment of Billie's voice on the record. From the 3 his voice sounds the most magical on TRÉ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cob Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Saying "I'm going to name the girl" doesn't mean that's her name, if anything it's him saying "I'm going to give her a name." Really? I mean, I don't mean to offend, but I don't think it's really something that's up for subjective understanding. (Yes the see the irony in that statement.) Here's the original snippet if you want to hear it for yourself. The way he says it conveys "Her name is Amanda," at least to me (I guess): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrHm0YXfS6Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florence Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I think nobody expected the last "♪But I know where I have been♫" on Little Boy Named Train I don't know how to call it, but to me it's another big moment of Billie's voice on the record. From the 3 his voice sounds the most magical on TRÉ I know what you mean. the "But I know where I have beeee---eeee---eeee---eenn"♪ part is my favorite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollhjr Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 New video for X-Kid over at the Idiot Club for those that have an account!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Rodriguez Cabrera Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Dirty Rotten Bastard is the best song on the album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather. Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Really? I mean, I don't mean to offend, but I don't think it's really something that's up for subjective understanding. (Yes the see the irony in that statement.) Here's the original snippet if you want to hear it for yourself. The way he says it conveys "Her name is Amanda," at least to me (I guess): Nah, I still see the way he says it as subjective, but I'm not gonna keep disagreeing because ultimately her name probably IS Amanda New video for X-Kid over at the Idiot Club for those that have an account!! Not that that wasn't cute an all, but was there really a point to putting out that video? I sure hope we get something better than that... the song deserves more than an image of a cassette playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Femme Gauche Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Yeah that was a completely pointless video. It was cool and all, but nothing really worth being exclusive. Anyone can pretty much imagine what it looks like XD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cob Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Nah, I still see the way he says it as subjective, but I'm not gonna keep disagreeing because ultimately her name probably IS Amanda -__- On the matter of the video, I think it could be a hint at the X-Kid music video that maybe released. Maybe that's how the video will start. Or. Or. The song speaks for itself. Because really guys, It's a kickass song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Femme Gauche Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 The song is great, that's very true, but then why make a video . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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