Guest Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Really after DOS? Yes, really. I'm sure Tre will grow on me a bit over time, but my opinion of it won't change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felipemorais09 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 sorry if this is a dumb question, but what '"julianna homicide" really means? it refers to something i dont know or is it just random lyric? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayish Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Missing You has grown on me so much wow. Song is addicting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nzap Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 sorry if this is a dumb question, but what '"julianna homicide" really means? it refers to something i dont know or is it just random lyric? I've been told it's this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julianna_Cox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastard of 1967 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Welp, I now officially have a least favorite GD album. It hurts my heart to say this, but most of the songs feel completely uninspired to me, and some of the lyrics are remarkably bad. Dirty Rotten Bastards and X-Kid are shining gems, but overall I am severely underwhelmed. Let it sink in for a few days, give it a few more listens, and come back and post an update. If I was gonna wager, I'd bet your opinion will change after your brain has more time to make sense of the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisionsofGreenDay115 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 He's written almost a dozen songs about her, does he really need to write a 7 minute, multi-part rock opera epic for her too? I feel like "Amanda" was the perfect song for her. The chorus seems to sum up their relationship so well: "Is this a love that only hate could understand? Amanda, I couldn't be your man." Im not saying its a bad song, I'm just saying it could of used a lot more depth about her and so we can know about her and their life together, why was she such an impact? What did they do to be so close then? What memories did they share? Things of that nature. And there is nothing wrong with more than two longish songs on an album (as shown before) Im just saying it would have been cool to see a longer, more in-depth and descriptive song about her and their life together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stories and songs Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 After listening to the album all the way through without the distraction of finals (all done, yay!), I must say - WOW. I am completely, 100% in love with this album. When I spoke about Dos!, I said that I missed an emotional connection to the writing that I ALWAYS feel with Green Day songs. There are some really awesome lines in Dos!, but overall the songwriting was, I felt, subpar considering Billie is such a great writer. Tre! on the other hand? GREAT lyrics. The writing is clever and powerful just as I'm used to with their music. I like these songs because they're about such an array of topics other than just love and partying. It is truly a powerful record. It is so loaded with emotion. Initially, I didn't understand why on Earth they would choose a song as slow as Brutal Love as the opening song. The more the more I listen to the album all the way through though, I understand. It really sets an interesting tone for the rest of the album. Uno! was light and fluffy. Dos! was wild and fun, but in a dark kind of way. And then Tre! starts with Brutal Love, which for me anyway, is a very heavy song emotionally. There is so much passion and frustration pent up in those five minutes, and it is absolutely brilliant. I could say this for every single song but I'm just going to get it out of the way now as a blanket statement: I have never heard Billie's voice sound so amazing. The power in his singing is incredible, and I feel like he is tapping into something that he never did in the past. Which is pretty damn cool - most singers wouldn't keep changing and improving their style after such a long career, but I feel like he is always making changes to the way he sings, and for the better. I adore Missing You. Classic Green Day. And sorry, but I must get a bit mushy for a moment - the line "Well she's my bud" is just about the cutest line I've ever heard in a Green Day song. Does 8th Avenue Serenade remind anyone of The Foo Fighters a little bit? The guitars in the beginning, especially. I had such a hard time putting my finger on who it reminded me of, and I just figured it out. Anyway, its a really solid track. I like it a lot. Not one of my favorites, but it grows on me every time I listen to it. I think it goes without saying that Drama Queen and X-Kid are EXQUISITE. I love the effect on Billie's voice in Drama Queen. I use this word way to much when describing songs, but it just sounds very "full," if that makes sense. I have a special place in my heart for this song because it was played at one of the concerts I went to. I'll always love it. I really like the narrative in it, too. I like hearing Billie's take on different current events, so I like that he touched on the whole "screwed up Hollywood starlet" thing. X-Kid is amazing. One of their best songs to date (and that isn't the first time I've said that throughout this trilogy). The lyrics break my heart knowing that it is about the suicide of a friend. I feel like their best songs have always come from a really honest place, and are written in a way that is accessible and yet really beautiful at the same time. Billie has never been one for flowery language, and I love that about his writing. Its raw and truthful, but he words things in such a way that they come out very poetic and resonate with listeners. Sorry, this is a writer fangirling over someone's writing, haha. Sex, Drugs, and Violence is great and again, I love the topic. I love how it is, from my perspective, reflecting on not getting an education and how it effects him at this point in his life. He "can pay but can't pay attention." It's a really interesting idea to explore in a song. Love it. Little Boy Named Train and Amanda are two I'm not totally sure about yet. They're both good songs with good lyrics. They're solid. But this album has so many EXCELLENT songs that I feel like these two don't quite shine as much as others do. I really like both songs, though - Amanda more so than Little Boy Named Train at the moment. Walk Away - I can't even say enough about this song. I adore it. Perfection. When the band takes on a more classic rock type of sound, it always comes out so damn good. Parts of it are a bit reminiscent of The Who. It reminds me a lot of 21st Century Breakdown, because that song had a classic feel to it as well. Even though it has a kind of grand, rock 'n' roll feel to it, it just as easily could've been on Warning (which ranks as one of my all time favorite albums). Dirty Rotten Bastards is awesome as fuck. Presently I do not have any more coherent thoughts on this song, haha. Can you imagine hearing it live? Oh my heavens. The Forgotten - Beautiful. The album ends just as powerfully and emotionally as it started. Really just a beautiful song. 99 Revolutions fits perfectly into Green Day's catalog without being too much like their older material. Yet it is still classic, older Green Day sounding. Great stuff. This album blows me away the more I listen to it. There is so much depth to it. And what I love best of all, it is as though Warning and American Idiot had a baby and Tre! is what that baby sounds like. Freaking perfect. After getting the whole picture and finally hearing all three albums, I truly think that this was an awesome idea and musically a huge success. I am so, so proud of the guys. Just look at the journey these albums took us on - there was pop-punk, garage rock, rap, alt-rock, classic rock, the rock opera-ish Dirty Rotten Bastards, almost doo-wop with Brutal Love, power ballads, piano ballads, quite acoustic laments - everything. What is amazing is that I think the guys are so good at so many different genres of music. They pull off so many songs that are out of the comfort zone that they began with as a band and kick ass every time. I admire them so much for taking on this project. Viewing the trilogy as a whole, I think they have accomplished something very special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Teller Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Walk Away is definately one of my favs on Tre.It's great song!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDirnt Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Has anyone thought about what the line 'Here goes nothing, the souting's over' in X-Kid means? What's that shouting he's talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDirnt Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Ok here's my little review like I did for ¡Dos!: 1. Brutal Love: It's a very beautiful song. I really love the vocals, but when it first started in acoustic I thought I was listening to 'Before The Lobotomy'. I like how Billie sings 'It's brutal love'. Those strings make the song much better. However, I don't really like that much the part when Billie sings a long 'MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIND' for the second time. 8/10 2. Missing You: This song is one of my favorites. It's just so good! The rythm of the verses sound fresh, somehow, and although they sing 'I'm missing you' so many times, it doesn't get repetitive to me because it sounds very beautiful. I also like the echo-like backing vocals Billie does in the second round of chorus. Overall a good song, that could well help someone through a breakup. 8/10 3. 8th Avenue Serenade: I must admit I liked this song better live from the Echoplex. Here I see a good example of one of the bad things of listening to live versions of the songs before the studio version comes out: I was a little disappointed. It's still a damn good song, and one of my favorites. I didn't like though the little pauses between the notes of the main guitar riff. Plus, the 'uuh-uh-uh-uh-uuh-uuh's in the chorus sound too deep to me because I was used to the live version. I also missed the '1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8' count in the pause beforet he first guitar riff. Still, this doesn't make the song much less awesome. It's in my opinion one of the best song in the album because the verses sound beautiful and relaxing, as well as giving the song a lovey and dreamy atmosphere, and the chorus isn't just repeating '8th Ave Serenade' several times. In fact is one of the very few songs in the trilogy that only say the title of the song once in the chorus. 10/10 4. Drama Queen: I didn't expect the line 'she's old enough to bleed now' to be repeated so many times It's a kinda beautiful ballad, but I was expecting more from it. It's not anything special to me. It has an amazing bassline, well combined with the piano, that pretty much saves the song for me. 7/10 5. X-Kid: Loved this song from the very first listen. Its lyrics are without a doubt inspiring and emotional. It's very catchy as well as beautiful. Not much to say about this one. It's simply epic. When this song comes in you should do nothing but shut up and listen. 10/10 6. Sex, Drugs & Violence: Not that surprising. It's pretty much ok. I like Mike's line though, but it's very short the sound of his line somehow sounded very cliché to me. The lyrics are good though. 'Too dumb to die I guess but that's the way it goes' and 'I don't wanna be an imbecile but Jesus made me that way' sure are memorable to me. But I must say if it wasn't for Mike's line, I would probably never feel the urge to listen to it. 6/10 7. Little Boy Named Train: A fucking pile of pure gold. I love this song and it's probably my favorite. The guitar riff in the beggining is orgasmic, and I'm really happy it gets repeated full-band all along the song. The lyrics are really amazing and the vocals pretty much live up to them. This song is one of my favorites from all the trilogy and the fact that it's not a single it's totally beyond my comprehension. The whole song is excellent. 10/10 8. Amanda: I didn't really know what to expect about this one. I hadn't heard anything about it. It's a good song. I love the line 'Amands, I couldn't be your man'. I like both the line and how Billie songs it. The overall music is also very good. 9/10 9. Walk Away: This song made me think Cigaretted & Valentines would have probably been like Warning to me: Not a successful album, but in my top favorites. I love the intonation when they sing 'Walk Away'. What doesn't convince me that much is how Billie sings 'or maybe did you lose'. That 'lose' doesn't sound as good to me. The lyrics are well-worked and the line 'The scar remains remind me That I’m still living' is pretty touching to me for all the insecurities and psychological pain I'm used to and is one of my favorites. 10/10 10. Dirty Rotten Bastard: I love the mumbling in the first part. Also the line 'we're the retarded and the broken hearted' is great, because it's like emotional but from a funny perspective, though still hitting the bullet point. The 'fuck the world, this is my revolution' one in the second part pretty much reminds me of myself. I love the corus in the second part and I love how it creates a new character, Julianna Homicide, that I'm really looking forward to know more about. The bassline is A-M-A-Z-I-N-G and the guitar solo is really fast and energetic. Then the third part breaks up. I'm just ok with this one. I like how before the end the song goes back to repeating a bit of the first part. This song has a 'but' however: The last part. The guitar accompaigning the vocals is nice, but it gets really repetitive to me because all Billie does is repeating 'Carried (carrying?) away' all the time. 9/10 11. 99 Revolutions: Kinda overrated if you ask me. It's a nice song but it's not that amazing. I think Little Boy Named Train would be a better single. However, the chorus sounds gorgeous. 7/10 12. The Forgotten: Arguably my favorite Green Day ballad ever, up there with No One Knows. Beautiful vocals, magnificent strings, gorgeous piano... and really sad and emotional lyrics! This song was about to make me cry TWICE! And I never cry with songs. Even once it made my eyes watery. Overall one of my favorite songs in the trilogy, definitely beats the shit out of WMUWSE and 21 Guns to me. I wish when Green Day are back people notice this song and give it the attention it deserves, because it truly deserves to be a hit. If any song deserves to be overrated, this is the one. 10/10 Edit: Sorry for double post, I was gonna add this to my previous post but I clicked the Post button by mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBaboon Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 In my booklet Billie is credited with lead vocals guitar and drums tre is nowhere to be found?!?! Does anyone else have this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayish Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Missing You is addicting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castr0 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Drama Queen is a little bit boring, it's too bad ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porksoda Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Im not saying its a bad song, I'm just saying it could of used a lot more depth about her and so we can know about her and their life together, why was she such an impact? What did they do to be so close then? What memories did they share? Things of that nature. And there is nothing wrong with more than two longish songs on an album (as shown before) Im just saying it would have been cool to see a longer, more in-depth and descriptive song about her and their life together. Again, there's almost a dozen songs about her, ergo, we know quite a lot about their relationship. And from what I remember from biographies and such, there wasn't much of a relationship to begin with. Amanda tells us plenty about them, how Billie felt about her, and how she felt about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blond-O-Sonic Shimmer Trap Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Shit. Dirty Rotten Bastards main bit is ripped from the Band Aid song "Do They Know It's Christmas", especially the one released a few years ago with The Darkness playing electric guitar. Can't unhear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farley drexel hatcher Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Shit. Dirty Rotten Bastards main bit is ripped from the Band Aid song "Do They Know It's Christmas", especially the one released a few years ago with The Darkness playing electric guitar. Can't unhear it. I .... can't hear it. And would they even know that song? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I .... can't hear it. And would they even know that song? I definitely hear it. And everyone knows that fucking song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farley drexel hatcher Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I definitely hear it. And everyone knows that fucking song. Americans, really? It was massive in the UK but I doubt too many Americans will know of it, it was a charity record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Americans, really? It was massive in the UK but I doubt too many Americans will know of it, it was a charity record. It's a pretty damn huge song. Wasn't it No 1 in a shitload of countries? And it's on just about every Christmas compilation ever now too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nzap Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Americans, really? It was massive in the UK but I doubt too many Americans will know of it, it was a charity record. I've never heard of that song either, but I might be too young to know it. BTW can you please show me where it sounds similar cause I sometimes have trouble spotting these and I can't spot this with my fast playthrough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 After listening to the album all the way through with out the distraction of finals (all done, yay!), I must say - WOW. I am completely, 100% in love with this album. When I spoke about Dos!, I said that I missed an emotional connection to the writing that I ALWAYS feel with Green Day songs. There are some really awesome lines in Dos!, but overall the songwriting was, I felt, below par considering Billie is such a great writer. Tre! on the other hand? GREAT lyrics. The writing is clever and powerful just as I'm used to with their music. I like these songs because they're about such an array of topics other than just love and partying. It is truly a powerful record. It is so loaded with emotion. Initially, I didn't understand why on Earth they would choose a song as slow as Brutal Love as the opening song. The more the more I listen to the album all the way through though, I understand. It really sets an interesting tone for the rest of the album. Uno! was light and fluffy. Dos! was wild and fun, but in a dark kind of way. And then Tre! starts with Brutal Love, which for me anyway, is a very heavy song emotionally. There is so much passion and frustration pent up in those five minutes, and it is absolutely brilliant. I could say this for every single song but I'm just going to get it out of the way now as a blanket statement: I have never heard Billie's voice sound so amazing. The power in his singing is incredible, and I feel like he is tapping into something that he never did in the past. Which is pretty damn cool - most singers wouldn't keep changing and improving their style after such a long career, but I feel like he is always making changes to the way he sings, and for the better. I adore Missing You. Classic Green Day. And sorry, but I must get a bit mushy for a moment - the line "Well she's my bud" is just about the cutest line I've ever heard in a Green Day song. Does 8th Avenue Serenade remind anyone of The Foo Fighters a little bit? The guitars in the beginning, especially. I had such a hard time putting my finger on who it reminded me of, and I just figured it out. Anyway, its a really solid track. I like it a lot. Not one of my favorites, but it grows on me every time I listen to it. I think it goes without saying that Drama Queen and X-Kid are EXQUISITE. I love the effect on Billie's voice in Drama Queen. I use this word way to much when describing songs, but it just sounds very "full," if that makes sense. I have a special place in my heart for this song because it was played at one of the concerts I went to. I'll always love it. I really like the narrative in it, too. I like hearing Billie's take on different current events, so I like that he touched on the whole "screwed up Hollywood starlet" thing. X-Kid is amazing. One of their best songs to date (and that isn't the first time I've said that throughout this trilogy). The lyrics break my heart knowing that it is about the suicide of a friend. I feel like their best songs have always come from a really honest place, and are written in a way that is accessible and yet really beautiful at the same time. Billie has never been one for flowery language, and I love that about his writing. Its raw and truthful, but he words things in such a way that they come out very poetic and resonate with listeners. Sorry, this is a writer fangirling over someone's writing, haha. Sex, Drugs, and Violence is great and again, I love the topic. I love how it is, from my perspective, reflecting on not getting an education and how it effects him at this point in his life. He "can pay but can't pay attention." It's a really interesting idea to explore in a song. Love it. Little Boy Named Train and Amanda are two I'm not totally sure about yet. They're both good songs with good lyrics. They're solid. But this album has so many EXCELLENT songs that I feel like these two don't quite shine as much as others do. I really like both songs, though - Amanda more so than Little Boy Named Train at the moment. Walk Away - I can't even say enough about this song. I adore it. Perfection. When the band takes on a more classic rock type of sound, it always comes out so damn good. Parts of it are a bit reminiscent of The Who. It reminds me a lot of 21st Century Breakdown, because that song had a classic feel to it as well. Even though it has a kind of grand, rock 'n' roll feel to it, it just as easily could've been on Warning (which ranks as one of my all time favorite albums). Dirty Rotten Bastards is awesome as fuck. Presently I do not have any more coherent thoughts on this song, haha. Can you imagine hearing it live? Oh my heavens. The Forgotten - Beautiful. The album ends just as powerfully and emotionally as it started. Really just a beautiful song. 99 Revolutions fits perfectly into Green Day's catalog without being too much like their older material. Yet it is still classic, older Green Day sounding. Great stuff. This album blows me away the more I listen to it. There is so much depth to it. And what I love best of all, it is as though Warning and American Idiot had a baby and Tre! is what that baby sounds like. Freaking perfect. After getting the whole picture and finally hearing all three albums, I truly think that this was an awesome idea and musically a huge success. I am so, so proud of the guys. Just look at the journey these albums took us on - there was pop-punk, garage rock, rap, alt-rock, classic rock, the rock opera-ish Dirty Rotten Bastards, almost doo-wop with Brutal Love, power ballads, piano ballads, quite acoustic laments - everything. What is amazing is that I think the guys are so good at so many different genres of music. They pull off so many songs that are out of the comfort zone that they began with as a band and kick ass every time. I admire them so much for taking on this project. Viewing the trilogy as a whole, I think they have accomplished something very special. Awesome post, but the lyric in Missing You is "She's my blood" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stories and songs Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 ^ Thanks! Ah, that's what I get for looking the lyrics up online, haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Femme Gauche Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Again, there's almost a dozen songs about her, ergo, we know quite a lot about their relationship. And from what I remember from biographies and such, there wasn't much of a relationship to begin with. Amanda tells us plenty about them, how Billie felt about her, and how she felt about him. Plus, why do we need the songs to tell intimate descriptive details about his personal life? I mean, they often have aspects descriptive of his personal life, but that's because that's what he feels like writing about. The most important thing is that it is a good song. It shouldn't matter who it is really about, or that we know every detail about their relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanicAttack! Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 there was pop-punk, garage rock, rap, alt-rock, classic rock, the rock opera-ish Dirty Rotten Bastards, almost doo-wop with Brutal Love, power ballads, piano ballads, quite acoustic laments - everything. Just because it has different parts and is therefore reminiscent of JOS and Homecoming, it doesn't make it rock-opera-ish. Those other songs were rock opera material for different reasons than being multiple part songs, or medleys as some might say. Besides that I agree that the trilogy was indeed very varied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringonjennifury Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I noticed the similarity of Do They Know It's Christmas in that part of Dirty Rotten Bastards, but I did not think it sounded exactly alike. But I remember that song quite well. In 1984 I was 15 and the video was on MTV often. My friends and I liked to watch it just to drool over the hot British guys. Nowadays I still hear it occasionally on the radio around Christmastime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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