! Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I think it could be very good as an opener, like Song Of The Century. Yes I realize that that is not a full-length song and it was just a couple of chords repeated before it went into the actual song, but... I like that it would build and create a little tension/pressure that would subsequently explode with something like Nuclear Family. . I'm not saying it's the only way for a show to begin, but they've come to being quite theatric and it would certainly be one way. Well if they wanna start off on the slow route, I'll much prefer See You Tonight. I mean brutal love would work, I do love the song. I guess I just like for things to start off with a bang and slow down once they hit the middle section of the show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfterShock Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I think it could be very good as an opener, like Song Of The Century. Yes I realize that that is not a full-length song and it was just a couple of chords repeated before it went into the actual song, but... I like that it would build and create a little tension/pressure that would subsequently explode with something like Nuclear Family. . I'm not saying it's the only way for a show to begin, but they've come to being quite theatric and it would certainly be one way. My thoughts exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homero Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 The way Billie sings in Brutal Love omg Anyway, I love his vocals in the whole trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Femme Gauche Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 The way Billie sings in Brutal Love omg Anyway, I love his vocals in the whole trilogy. Same, his vocals are on point for every second of this thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzD Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I'm thinking if Billie was to do Brutal Love live, it would have to be at or at least near the start of the show. I'm not sure his vocal chords would manage it after a few hours of faster tunes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homero Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I'm thinking if Billie was to do Brutal Love live, it would have to be at or at least near the start of the show. I'm not sure his vocal chords would manage it after a few hours of faster tunes! He did well with 21 Guns and that was near the end of the shows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Femme Gauche Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 He did well with 21 Guns and that was near the end of the shows He had to give himself some time for that, and had the fans do most of the high notes. No one has a voice like that with the amount of running around and screaming he does during a show . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homero Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 He had to give himself some time for that, and had the fans do most of the high notes. No one has a voice like that with the amount of running around and screaming he does during a show . oh true, I almost forgot about that. Still, he does a good job with the "from a stooooone" part haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzD Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I think he definitely tends to get raspy by the end of a night, and that's just one indicator of how he puts everything he's got into every song. I just think he'd do justice to Brutal Love earlier on in a show. Besides, this song currently has my undying love and if he puts me out of my misery earlier by singing it early i can enjoy the rest of the night. Indulge me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGLWW Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I don't think brutal love or see you tonight will ever be played live. Especially if Sam Cooke was credited on Brutal Love. And I still don't know whether that is true or not cause it didn't say it in the cd booklet. I think someone said it was on Wikipedia? I mean horseshoes and handgrenades was said to be a copy of another punk band's song, so that is prolly why they never played it live. And I don't believe for one second they credited David Bowie with 21 Guns. It just isn't close enough to All The Young Dudes. I mean if David Bowie was credited why wasn't Radiohead credited with Wild One or why weren't other artists credited with Warning, Pieces of Truth, American Idiot, and I am sure a few others. However I think it is a cool idea to do it for someone who has passed as a tribute. But some say, at least wait till I die before you copy my music. So who knows, some may take exception if in fact Cooke was credited. And I'm pretty sure green day hates radiohead so I doubt they would ever do such a thing for them. As far as live intros they would prolly do an older song like Welcome to Paradise, maybe Dirty Rotten Bastards? Idk. I have a feeling a lot of these songs will never be played live on a world tour. Songs like 8th Ave, Loss of Control, and others we may only see in videos live from secret shows played previously. It will be interesting tho to see what kind of setlists they come up with. Wish they would do Dos with Stop Drop and Roll songs as the foxboro hot tubs. A Tre and Nimrod tour would be cool too. Play both those albums live in their entirety and then add a few extra greatest hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritz Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Nuclear Family was a great start to the Trilogy and Forgotten is the perfect ending that it could get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nzap Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Nuclear Family was a great start to the Trilogy and Forgotten is the perfect ending that it could get. I would've liked Missing You as the ending, but I guess it is OK as it is now although I'm not very fond of the Forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I don't think brutal love or see you tonight will ever be played live. Especially if Sam Cooke was credited on Brutal Love. And I still don't know whether that is true or not cause it didn't say it in the cd booklet. I think someone said it was on Wikipedia? I mean horseshoes and handgrenades was said to be a copy of another punk band's song, so that is prolly why they never played it live. And I don't believe for one second they credited David Bowie with 21 Guns. It just isn't close enough to All The Young Dudes. I mean if David Bowie was credited why wasn't Radiohead credited with Wild One or why weren't other artists credited with Warning, Pieces of Truth, American Idiot, and I am sure a few others. However I think it is a cool idea to do it for someone who has passed as a tribute. But some say, at least wait till I die before you copy my music. So who knows, some may take exception if in fact Cooke was credited. And I'm pretty sure green day hates radiohead so I doubt they would ever do such a thing for them. As far as live intros they would prolly do an older song like Welcome to Paradise, maybe Dirty Rotten Bastards? Idk. I have a feeling a lot of these songs will never be played live on a world tour. Songs like 8th Ave, Loss of Control, and others we may only see in videos live from secret shows played previously. It will be interesting tho to see what kind of setlists they come up with. Wish they would do Dos with Stop Drop and Roll songs as the foxboro hot tubs. A Tre and Nimrod tour would be cool too. Play both those albums live in their entirety and then add a few extra greatest hits. Why would they not play Brutal Love live? As far as Sam getting credited (he is credited) cause the music is more than "just sounds like" but they'll play it live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cob Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I don't think brutal love or see you tonight will ever be played live. Especially if Sam Cooke was credited on Brutal Love. And I still don't know whether that is true or not cause it didn't say it in the cd booklet. I think someone said it was on Wikipedia? I mean horseshoes and handgrenades was said to be a copy of another punk band's song, so that is prolly why they never played it live. And I don't believe for one second they credited David Bowie with 21 Guns. It just isn't close enough to All The Young Dudes. I mean if David Bowie was credited why wasn't Radiohead credited with Wild One or why weren't other artists credited with Warning, Pieces of Truth, American Idiot, and I am sure a few others. However I think it is a cool idea to do it for someone who has passed as a tribute. But some say, at least wait till I die before you copy my music. So who knows, some may take exception if in fact Cooke was credited. And I'm pretty sure green day hates radiohead so I doubt they would ever do such a thing for them. As far as live intros they would prolly do an older song like Welcome to Paradise, maybe Dirty Rotten Bastards? Idk. I have a feeling a lot of these songs will never be played live on a world tour. Songs like 8th Ave, Loss of Control, and others we may only see in videos live from secret shows played previously. It will be interesting tho to see what kind of setlists they come up with. Wish they would do Dos with Stop Drop and Roll songs as the foxboro hot tubs. A Tre and Nimrod tour would be cool too. Play both those albums live in their entirety and then add a few extra greatest hits. ...um what? Brutal Love is credited to Sam Cooke because it's written in the tune of his song, i.e. the melodies are consciously similar. 21 Guns' melody is used in countless other songs. I don't understand why Radiohead should be credited for Wild One, and those other songs you mentioned don't directly copy the melodies or riffs from other songs (the band stated that they used the round bassline from The Kinks in Warning as a tribute because it fit the songs, everything else from the chord progression to the melody is completely different). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KickingKangaroos Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 My ¡TRÉ! review! Going to make it as best as I can even though I haven't listened to it very much. ALBUM ARTWORK: It is a review of the entire album isn't it? The artwork is weird. Tre's picture is the worst of the trio's. It just at a weird angle and his eyes look really weird that big with pink X's over them. The color scheme I can't tell if its really cool or ugly as shit. Today it seemed really cool but this evening it looks awkward. The back cover of the hard copy CD is really cool with the shattered glass with Tre looking at the camera and at different angles, it's really cool and fits the album really well with its self-reflective atmosphere (see what I did there, glass, self-reflective?!? Ba-dum-crash!). Anyway en BRUTAL LOVE: Billie's vocals. Just...wow. He has evolved so much since the Dookie days. The concert band orchestra thingy in the background fits the song perfectly in my opinion. Imagine if they would've had trumpets on Makeout Party?. Very beautiful song, especially the ending section. 8.5/10 MISSING YOU: This song is basically Uno in a nutshell. Has flashes of Stay the Night, Fell for You, Sweet 16 and the melodicness of Uno. Very clean, bright song but really nothing to go bananas about. Catchy though. 6/10 8th AVENUE SERENADE: Catchy as a baseball game. 8AS is a great song that fits well with Tre but it feels like its lacking, or missing something in the intro and verses. Pretty good to mediocre song. You might enjoy more than me. 7.5/10 DRAMA QUEEN: Was hoping this being track 4 would be my favorite seeing as Let Yourself Go and Lazy Bones are basically one of my favorites if not my favorite from there respective albums and also being track 4. This song didn't really do it for me. It grows on you but it's really just a simple acoustic ballad with little drums. I feel the piano solo to be to simple and unnecessary but the guitar solo, now that's a good fucking solo. Not the fastest or longest, but sounds really good and fits quite well with the song. Not the albums best but solid nonetheless. 6/10 X-KID: This is a pretty damn good song. Very catchy and dare I say epic. Not the best song on the album but a top 5 one nonetheless. This was the first song I heard after Uno and I didn't like it and it seemed overhyped but its either grown on me a lot or its always been really good. It's like Coming Clean or Holiday. A really good epic Green Day song but not fucking amazing nor not good if that makes sense. 8.5/10 SEX, DRUGS, AND VIOLENCE: Right off the bat I'm gonna say I don't like this song. It's just not good. It's like actually I don't know what it's like. It's really bad but not Song of the Century bad or Good Riddance bad. I'm still never gonna listen to it ever or learn it on guitar. The lyrics are cringingly bad and it's a really boring song. Not good at all. 2.5/10 A LITTLE BOY NAMED TRAIN: This is where it starts getting good. I was hoping that this song would be like Bab's Uvula Who, a really weird name but a really kick-ass song, but I didn't like it as much as I hoped. It's a basic song and gets boring after a few listens in a row. It's a good song on its own, and once in awhile but otherwise, it's disappointing. I like Tre's drum riff thing where Billie sings "Don't know where I come from, but I know where I have been." Just a minor thing that gives the song an extra .5 rating. 7.5/10 AMANDA: "Amanda don't you know?" Very catchy and punchy song. I don't see the hate this song gets from most people. It's really good. It also has little to no similarity to Sweet 16 people. Seeing as this song is about BJ's former girlfriend who influenced their punk style, I think she'd be disappointed with it. What the songs about doesn't fit the type of song but if you ignore that it's a good top 5 song. 8.5/10 WALK AWAY: Best song of the trilogy hands down. This song seems familiar to something. People say its like a Warning song yet the only Warning songs I've heard are Warning, Waiting, Minority, and Macy's Day Parade. Amazing song, love how its not a basic 1,4,5 chord structure and it goes to a different key, this song is a masterpiece. Absolute masterpiece. 9.75/10 DIRTY ROTTEN BASTARDS: One of the trilogy's best. Up there with the Lazy Bones and Ashley's, Lady Cobras, Let Yourself Go's, Kill the DJ's, and of course Walk Away. The yeah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah's are either really annoying or really awesome depending on your mood. The beginning part of this 6 minute beauty is very Irish and very enjoyable, before it gets killed by Julianna Homicide (see what I did there). This song takes off. This is what Green Day is, fast, hardcore songs that are just, Green Day. And why does every song with the lyrics "No one here is getting out alive" SO DAMN GOOD. You better know what song refrence that is. After some pretty fuckin awesome bass and guitar solos is the best four line melody ever in the history of ever like seriously...ever. The words "California's burning to the ground" to the melody fit so fucking well its not even funny. Fucking awesome. 9.5/10 99 REVOLUTIONS: Dissapointed, I was when I first heard it. After all the hype I heard about it I was thinking this was the new Welcome to Paradise (which is the best song in the world), but alas it was not to be. But seriously it's a pretty good song, just not as good as it was hyped up to be. The last minutes or so is pretty fuckin good though I must admit. I feel like this is the new Know Your Enemy even though for me KYE was like the best song ever when it first came out, really repetitive, like seriously we know there's 99 revolutions tonight. You said it a whole 16 times. You didn't even say "kill the fucking dj" that many times. Ok jokes but seriously 99 revolutions is an alright track, just not worthy of all the hype. 75/99 THE FORGOTTON: I'm not exactly going to do a complete review on this song since I've fully heard it maybe Tre times. Reminds me of John Lennon's Imagine. Just a simple 5 minute catchy piano ballad. It's OK but just not my thing, nor is it Restless Heart Syndrome or Last Night on Earth. 5/10 OVERALL: The album is overall really good. It has song good songs, the songs fit well with eachother. Better than Uno yet not as good as Dos. 8.5/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freezing Melons Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Anyone have the vinyl?... is "Stray Heart" on it?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homero Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I don't think brutal love or see you tonight will ever be played live. Especially if Sam Cooke was credited on Brutal Love. And I still don't know whether that is true or not cause it didn't say it in the cd booklet. I think someone said it was on Wikipedia? I mean horseshoes and handgrenades was said to be a copy of another punk band's song, so that is prolly why they never played it live. And I don't believe for one second they credited David Bowie with 21 Guns. It just isn't close enough to All The Young Dudes. I mean if David Bowie was credited why wasn't Radiohead credited with Wild One or why weren't other artists credited with Warning, Pieces of Truth, American Idiot, and I am sure a few others. However I think it is a cool idea to do it for someone who has passed as a tribute. But some say, at least wait till I die before you copy my music. So who knows, some may take exception if in fact Cooke was credited. And I'm pretty sure green day hates radiohead so I doubt they would ever do such a thing for them. As far as live intros they would prolly do an older song like Welcome to Paradise, maybe Dirty Rotten Bastards? Idk. I have a feeling a lot of these songs will never be played live on a world tour. Songs like 8th Ave, Loss of Control, and others we may only see in videos live from secret shows played previously. It will be interesting tho to see what kind of setlists they come up with. Wish they would do Dos with Stop Drop and Roll songs as the foxboro hot tubs. A Tre and Nimrod tour would be cool too. Play both those albums live in their entirety and then add a few extra greatest hits. I agree with almost everything you said, but a special tour based on one album? I don't see that happening, not everyone loves the same album. Man, just analyzing the lyrics to Sex, drugs and violence and it is a really deep and reflective song IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Anyone have the vinyl?... is "Stray Heart" on it?! The vinyl isn't out yet so no no one has it it's coming out on Tre's original Jan 15th date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltrbmb17 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Sounds like a destructive St Jimmy type character to me. That part of the song reminds me of St Jimmy a lot so that's how I'm thinking of it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julianna_Cox. I think Billie is identifying with the character, finding pieces of himself in her and saying "yep, that's me!" Thank you, for the answers. Yeah, i read about Juliana Cox in the internet. I should watch something from the show 'cause i have no idea what it is about and can't exactly understand why Billie uses that character Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritz Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 http://www.lasvegasweekly.com/news/2012/dec/12/green-days-trilogy-little-exhausting-effective-mom/ This guy says tre is the weakest in the Trilogy. I LOL'ed so hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaz. Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Oh man, I have lots of love for Missing You right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Sawyer Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 My opinion on TRE! : It's a good album but not the best from the trilogy.( I have to say, after I heard DOS! the first time, I knew it'd be hard to do better than that coz it's just a killer! ) I'm a bit disappointed even if TRE! has definitely some very good songs on it like "Dirty rotten bastards" that I can't stop listening to or "Sex, drugs and violence". But, some songs remind me of other songs, Green day songs or not. But I guess that the impression of déjà vu is legit when you release 37 songs within 4 months.. This album might grow on me. Anyway, it perfectly ends the trilogy I think My ratings: Brutal Love- 7/10 Missing You- 7.5/10 8th Avenue Serenade- 8/10 Drama Queen- 7/10 X-Kid- 7/10 Sex, Drugs, and Violence- 8.5/10 Little Boy Named Train- 6.5/10 Amanda- 6/10 Walk Away- 9.5/10 Dirty Rotten Bastards- 10/10 99 Revolutions- 9.5/10 The Forgotten- 8./10 Overall 7.2, not bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Trotsky Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I don't think brutal love or see you tonight will ever be played live. Especially if Sam Cooke was credited on Brutal Love. And I still don't know whether that is true or not cause it didn't say it in the cd booklet. I think someone said it was on Wikipedia? I mean horseshoes and handgrenades was said to be a copy of another punk band's song, so that is prolly why they never played it live. And I don't believe for one second they credited David Bowie with 21 Guns. It just isn't close enough to All The Young Dudes. I mean if David Bowie was credited why wasn't Radiohead credited with Wild One or why weren't other artists credited with Warning, Pieces of Truth, American Idiot, and I am sure a few others. However I think it is a cool idea to do it for someone who has passed as a tribute. But some say, at least wait till I die before you copy my music. So who knows, some may take exception if in fact Cooke was credited. And I'm pretty sure green day hates radiohead so I doubt they would ever do such a thing for them. As far as live intros they would prolly do an older song like Welcome to Paradise, maybe Dirty Rotten Bastards? Idk. I have a feeling a lot of these songs will never be played live on a world tour. Songs like 8th Ave, Loss of Control, and others we may only see in videos live from secret shows played previously. It will be interesting tho to see what kind of setlists they come up with. Wish they would do Dos with Stop Drop and Roll songs as the foxboro hot tubs. A Tre and Nimrod tour would be cool too. Play both those albums live in their entirety and then add a few extra greatest hits. They don't have to give credits to Radiohead anyway.Wild One it has a "Creep-vibe" but it's not a ripp off.Unlike to Creep which is a rip off of an old song of "The Hollies".The song is called "The air that I breathe"...Btw Creep is one of my favorite Radiohead songs.I just enjoy the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 "Dirty Rotten Bastards" God’s Losers (0 - 1:23) Calling all demons, this is the season Next stop is therapy We're the retarded and the broken hearted The season of misery Here's to the wasted, I can almost taste it The rejects, the wastes of times You'll take it further, get away with murder And no one is getting out alive Here's to all God's losers ra da da di A bottom feeders frenzy Here's to all bloodsuckers sing along with me Cause we don't say no scream One, two, three Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Hey Miss Judgment Day (1:24 - 1:48) We're too old till we misbehave We sold our souls and somehow shamed ourselves So we wait for this judgment day Write me a letter and send it to my grave Yeah Juliana Homicide (1:49 - 4:24) All fucked beyond intervention Fuck the world this is my revolution We're all lost souls and living in cages "I'm all but better" is one for the ages I've got the urge To bitch and surge The tables turn To crash and burn Julianna homicide Make my demons come to life Well Julianna homicide I want you to be my blushing bride I'm drawing a line in my best friends ashes Dust to dust when the red light flashes What the fuck does OK stand for? When the afterlife is only worth dying for I've got the urge To bitch and surge The tables turn To crash and burn Julianna homicide Make my demons come to life Well Julianna homicide I want you to be my blushing bride Alright Well California's burning to the ground And Julianna walks on holy ground Where there's smoke there's fire burning at the light Cause California's burning down tonight Tonight God’s Losers II (4:25 - 5:29) Calling all demons, this is the season Next stop is therapy We're the retarded and the broken hearted The season of misery Here's to the wasted, I can almost taste it The rejects, the wastes of times Gonna take it further, get away with murder And no one is getting out alive Here's to all God's losers ra da da di The bottom feeders frenzy Here's to all bloodsuckers sing along with me Cause we don't say no Scream one, two, three Carried Away (5:30 - 6:26) We're carried away Carried away Carried away Carried away Carried away Carried away Carried away Carried away Carried away I named the song parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 99 Revolutions is a huge nostalgic trip back to the secret London show. Holy hell it made the hair on my neck stand up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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