WhiteTim Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 ahaha maybe :)/> But seriously what you find disgusting and poor someone else found it funny Me i found text message neither funny or disgusting just eh But im a Nightlife lover so maybe im just strange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Femme Gauche Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I don't think st jimmy has anything to do with this album and I still think people are finding far too much of a narrative in these songs, like I said i sense an air of general desperation but that is just opinion, it still pisses me off when people assume they know exactly what the songs are about. Seem to be seeing a lot of people acting that way on here without even voicing it as a personal opinion. At the end of the day we know nothing of their lives, we don't even know how close together or in what order the songs were written, yet people are SO sure of the story they tell. We don't know how true songs are. A song could be totally one hundred percent autobiographical; it could also be a bunch of words that rhymed well. The point is we don't know so we really can't assume. People will still do it though. I am not assuming anything, but the "devil on your shoulder" vibe (and literal statement) in the song "Nightlife" is pretty clear cut, whatever the reality of the song is. Making the comparison between that and St. Jimmy, I don't think is much of a stretch, since that is basically the role he plays in the American Idiot album. Whether it is based on Billie's life, or a narrative, or it is just written because it was a random idea they had, is immaterial in looking at the similarities between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelBlue_ Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 But seriously what you find disgusting and poor someone else found it funny Me i found text message neither funny or disgusting just eh But im a Nightlife lover so maybe im just strange becouse I don't like that song...and the video as well..... there are a bunch of girl half naked making sexy moves and faces in front of the camera....meh I don't like this type of video ... maybe because I'm a woman, but I don't find it funny .... Just like the Oh love video( I appreciate more the playboy one)... I'm not a fan of that kind of videoclip...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Femme Gauche Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 becouse I don't like that song...and the video as well..... there are a bunch of girl half naked making sexy moves and faces in front of the camera....meh I don't like this type of video ... maybe because I'm a woman, but I don't find it funny .... Just like the Oh love video( I appreciate more the playboy one)... I'm not a fan of that kind of videoclip...... The song is making fun of that kind of behavior, though. I mean, I'm not a big fan of that song either, but... Anyway, I like Nightlife. And I do think there is a sense of humor to that one, too (it's less overt, though). Kind of like when Billie Joe said he thought the song "¿Viva La Gloria?" was kind of funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelBlue_ Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 The song is making fun of that kind of behavior, though. I mean, I'm not a big fan of that song either, but... Anyway, I like Nightlife. And I do think there is a sense of humor to that one, too (it's less overt, though). Kind of like when Billie Joe said he thought the song "¿Viva La Gloria?" was kind of funny. yea I like Nightlife too....I mean....I don't think It's the best song, but I don't think IT's shit.... I like the bass on it and this kind of dark effect on the sound.... the meaning, autobiographic or not, clearly explains the theme of temptations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTH Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 people who are talking bad about lady cobra and her songs: now i understand why people complain about fuck time and nightlife, too. you just don't get those songs. if you don't get the message behind text messaging slut im very sorry for you.... l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
November's Storms Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I really don't understand or appreciate that idea that Lady Cobra is to blame for his current troubles. As has been referenced in several interviews, this has been an ongoing problem Billie has been dealing with over the years, it's not something that has popped up in the last couple of years. They have been a band almost a quarter of a century, playing bedrooms and garages to stadiums and arenas all over the world. Over twenty years at the front line of rock n roll undoubtedly means Billie and the band have come across many temptations and bad influences when it comes to drink and drugs. Just because he has featured someone so obviously on the album doesn't mean she is the only influence he's ever come across. These problems are almost solely Billie's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthehallwaynow Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Ever since Billie had his Iheart situation I feel like everyone including fans are being way too critical and asking questions about things that dont have answers or aren't easily answered by anyone but the band..and until then we should hold tight on accusations just my opinion though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterglasshalfempty Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I've now listened to this album in its entirety about 10 times, and I've come to the upsetting conclusion that it's pretty mediocre. A lot of the songs are somewhat formulaic and uninspired, with nothing all that memorable going on in them. No catchy riffs or melodies, just predictability. There's also not a lot of passion in most of Billie's vocal performances, and it just seems like the record is stuffed with filler. Notable exceptions are Fuck Time, Lazy Bones, Stray Heart, and Wow! That's Loud. Other than that, besides a few of the guitar solos, I can't hear anything super special or interesting going on with this record. It doesn't feel like there's very much joy in it, which is confusing, because ¡Uno! sounded like they had a fucking blast making it. I agree. I feel that both Uno and Dos both have really strong melodies, but that's it. They don't have any weight at all except being catchy. It is, as you, say like they're all fillers. There are the occasional exceptions, but I honestly can't think of more than a few such that would a been deemed good enough for 21CB, quality-speaking. I feel that a song like Ashely or baby eyes, which are both quite popular here, are on the same level as Lights Out or Hearts Collide. And I'm not saying those songs are bad, not at all, but their not top-notch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlissaGoesRAWR Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I think it's possible to hate Nightlife musically but still appreciate it, if that makes sense. I hate what the song sounds like -- the terrible, flat (in my opinion) raps, Billie's zombie-like voice, how it drags on, etc. -- but at the same time I appreciate it when analyzed in the context of the album and in light of Billie's current situation. It could be autobiographical, it could not. We'll never know. But it is interesting either way. I appreciate the band's willingness to experiment, especially when they had the opportunity to put out so many songs because of the trilogy. If they hadn't done something drastic like this and at least tried something different with a couple songs, they would have been playing it too safe. Regardless, the song will always be a skipper for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregorovich Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I think it's possible to hate Nightlife musically but still appreciate it, if that makes sense. I hate what the song sounds like -- the terrible, flat (in my opinion) raps, Billie's zombie-like voice, how it drags on, etc. -- but at the same time I appreciate it when analyzed in the context of the album and in light of Billie's current situation. It could be autobiographical, it could not. We'll never know. But it is interesting either way. I appreciate the band's willingness to experiment, especially when they had the opportunity to put out so many songs because of the trilogy. If they hadn't done something drastic like this and at least tried something different with a couple songs, they would have been playing it too safe. Regardless, the song will always be a skipper for me. Totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacknovella Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I'm honestly surprised by all the negativity towards iDOS!...it just goes to show that people are never happy, they'll always find something to bitch about. This is the album that people have yearned for years, a fast paced, energetic album filled with short songs similar to the stuff they did back in the 90's. I for one am behind the band 100% and think they've done an amazing job on both albums so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaDagger Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 "Lazy Bones" makes me so sad Don't get me wrong, it's a fantastic song, but it makes me feel sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homero Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I can't wait to see the band perform Makeout Party live, and the part where it's just the drums and bass reminds me of Castaway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain peroxide Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I'm honestly surprised by all the negativity towards iDOS!...it just goes to show that people are never happy, they'll always find something to bitch about. This is the album that people have yearned for years, a fast paced, energetic album filled with short songs similar to the stuff they did back in the 90's. I for one am behind the band 100% and think they've done an amazing job on both albums so far Yeah, but see, contrary to what you might believe, we're not unhappy with the album because of some nitpicky stupid reasons. Good for you if you like it, it takes all sorts, but I'm pretty sure a fair few people have given legitimate reasons why they haven't enjoyed this album. Supporting a band does not mean you blindly love everything they do just because they did it. This is the album people have yearned for for years, but in my opinion, it falls short of what I wanted, phoning it in. Yes, the songs are fast, but there's no energy, no passion. The songwriting is lazy and uninspired. The lyrics on Uno weren't great either, but at least those had some feeling behind them. I've listened through Dos multiple times, and if you asked me to sing you something from half the songs on the album, I wouldn't be able to, because there's nothing memorable in them. I'm glad you enjoyed it, but writing off legitimate, thought-out explanations of how disappointed someone is as them "finding something to bitch about" is rather closed-minded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkingContradictionPL Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I can't tell I like Dos more or less then Uno. It's another Green Day record, it's not my favorite Warning. My fav song from it is Wild One. What's weird, I like much Nightlife. When I heard snippet in August it was supposed to be the worst Green Day song for me. Now, full version is great. Ok, I've got odd accociation with it while I was listening coming home in night walking next to lockup. Amy is perfect at the end of the album. I won't write about other songs. They're great, I like them, but I never have been good in writing reviews. I like the least Baby Eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacknovella Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Supporting a band does not mean you blindly love everything they do just because they did it. I'm well aware of that, and I can assure you there are songs I'm not fond of, things I've disagreed with, things that haven't quite lived up to my expectations, etc so I'm not one of those people who love's everything they do without thinking for myself. My main point really was that I'm just surprised by how many people were disappointed. I know there are people who give thought out, legitimate reasons and that's fair enough, they're not the people I'm talking about here. Judging by the response to my post I can tell I'm not alone in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Femme Gauche Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 It is just funny that people seem to think it is phoned in, it lacks much emotion, whereas on the other side of the coin some find it too heavy... Personally I find it quite fun, there are a lot of lyrical moments that make me "whoa" cause they just hit me, and there are others where, still with some skill, the only thing that is conveyed is silliness... but I love it all. Not because it is Green Day and I never dislike anything they do... As of yet there is not much that they have putv out professionally that I haven't liked, and from the first listen to the 20th this record has not ceased to leave me wanting to do it all over again. It just gets in my head, under my skin, and other very good things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayish Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Yeah, but see, contrary to what you might believe, we're not unhappy with the album because of some nitpicky stupid reasons. Good for you if you like it, it takes all sorts, but I'm pretty sure a fair few people have given legitimate reasons why they haven't enjoyed this album. Supporting a band does not mean you blindly love everything they do just because they did it. This is the album people have yearned for for years, but in my opinion, it falls short of what I wanted, phoning it in. Yes, the songs are fast, but there's no energy, no passion. The songwriting is lazy and uninspired. The lyrics on Uno weren't great either, but at least those had some feeling behind them. I've listened through Dos multiple times, and if you asked me to sing you something from half the songs on the album, I wouldn't be able to, because there's nothing memorable in them. I'm glad you enjoyed it, but writing off legitimate, thought-out explanations of how disappointed someone is as them "finding something to bitch about" is rather closed-minded. Great post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malleus Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Lazy Bones and Ashley are both pretty passionate and energetic songs. So are Fuck Time and Wow! That's Loud, albeit a totally different kind of passion. Passion and energy are subjective things most of the time though, so I guess you can't concretely say they are or aren't there. I feel they are, but others may not. I still think in a few years this album will get more praise than it currently is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayish Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Stop When The Red Light's Flash is a perfect example of phoning it in. Sounds like Billie wrote it in 5 minutes and the riff is almost reused from Homecoming. and don't even start with that chorus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubbie Head Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I think iDos! is definitely the most different album Green Day has produced, musically and lyrically, I mean, there isn't a song I can say that sounds that like the AI era, or the Dookie era etc... It's really new, at least to my ears! But maybe that might be the reason why I love it and some people hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter. Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Usually albums grow on me the more I listen to them, but with Uno and Dos it's the other way around. Uno had too many "good" songs for me. Green Day are not good. They're great. Green Day is a band which always, yes, always delivered those "great" songs. On Uno about half of the album is just good, or between good and great. I'm sorry if I'm asking for too much, but good is not good enough for Green Day in my opinion. On Dos, the darkness of the songs, the sadness in some of the lyrics takes away some of the fun from listening to the album at parts. Again, like Uno, it's good. But not good enough. I'm sorry if I'm asking for too much, please don't hate on me for that. I still like the albums, but as I already said above, Green Day usually put out material I love. There's only a couple of songs in their entire career that weren't "great" for me. And now look, that's half of the content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
November's Storms Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I've never heard that phrase "phoning it in", I get it now though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Purry Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 meh I'm quite dissapointed with this record I liked uno much better which is weird cuz i was convinced that one would be the weakest. nightlife would have been much better if they hired an good rapper with actual flow and i know they're friends so whatever i still love it though. lazy bones, fuck time, wild one are amazing but i just can't get through the other songs without skipping it. It's all bunch of filler for me I hope tre is better that record is still a mistery to me i only heard the forgotten which is nice but nothing amazing. oh well I'll just go back listening to born to die: paradise editon again seriously though it ruined dos for me cuz it is flawless. best record of the year for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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