Tubbie Head Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Yeah, and then no one would buy the albums either People would still buy them, but not immediately in the release date... But I know stuff doesn't work like that. It's just frustrating to me XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Strummer Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Green Day have said, repeatedly, that Tre was going to have more of an epic feel, in the vein of AI and 21CB. We haven't heard much of it, but we've known for a long time that "The Forgotten" and "Brutal Love" are going to have piano and strings, that "Dirty Rotten Bastards" is going to be a multi-part song like Jesus of Suburbia, Homecoming, and American Eulogy, that it would have politically-flavored songs like "99 Revolutions". So, how, exactly, are they contradicting themselves by delivering precisely what they've promised? How about the many times they've talked about this being a "new era" of Green Day and 21st Century Breakdown being "the end of an era"? Clearly it's not the end for the 21CB style if they're employing it again. Technically you are right, I'm not debating that, but I'm right in the sense that they called it the end of the 21CB style but are still bringing that sound into the trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather. Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Just because an era ends doesn't mean you abandon your past or don't incorporate elements of it. I'd call graduating high school and going to college the beginning and end of eras, but you're still doing the same thing---learning---just in somewhat different ways. Same thing with these albums. And a lot of what they were referring to was the "heaviness" of content (political, social commentary) of the last two albums, which by and large HAS been abandoned in the trilogy. And having all-out piano ballads is, in fact, a NEW thing for Green Day. They've never had songs with zero guitar before, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soroush Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 The string solo is in the iTunes preview. No guitar. It's all piano, drums, and bass. That's more like an opening for the secound verse of the song. I'm expecting another one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerardsangel4977 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 How about the many times they've talked about this being a "new era" of Green Day and 21st Century Breakdown being "the end of an era"? Clearly it's not the end for the 21CB style if they're employing it again. Technically you are right, I'm not debating that, but I'm right in the sense that they called it the end of the 21CB style but are still bringing that sound into the trilogy. By that logic, though, none of this is a "new era" of Green Day, since Uno touches upon their 90s material, Dos takes off of the Tubbies, and Tre references the rock operas of the past decade. But you did not say, sir, that the entire trilogy violates this philosophy; you only said that Tre does, and I find that stance to be confusing in the face of the fact that Green Day has been very upfront about what to expect from all three albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather. Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 By that logic, though, none of this is a "new era" of Green Day, since Uno touches upon their 90s material, Dos takes off of the Tubbies, and Tre references the rock operas of the past decade. But you did not say, sir, that the entire trilogy violates this philosophy; you only said that Tre does, and I find that stance to be confusing in the face of the fact that Green Day has been very upfront about what to expect from all three albums. In that sense, maybe you can call this a "new era" in that it's the all-encompassing revitalization of their entire career's development. It's the "everything was, and everything will be" era. Even if it's not entirely "new" musically, it sure is structurally, or philosophically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatever Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdSUG7Gvf0&feature=youtu.be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerardsangel4977 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 In that sense, maybe you can call this a "new era" in that it's the all-encompassing revitalization of their entire career's development. It's the "everything was, and everything will be" era. Even if it's not entirely "new" musically, it sure is structurally, or philosophically. I still see it as a new era, personally. It's certainly the most eclectic set of songs they've put out in awhile; the different guitar tones, along with the production, make for a fresh twist on an established sound; and, from what we know so far, each album seems to have at least one track that represents completely new territory for the band. Then there's the fact that the trilogy has broken away from the heavy concepts that dominated the past decade (even The Network and Foxboro Hot Tubs can be considered concept albums, in a way, even though they're not rock operas). I think that the band has delivered on everything they've said; I do not perceive the same contradiction in terms that Jimmy Strummer has mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendepent Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I really like this sample. Sounds very promising. In contrast to the deception that Uno gives me, in terms of sound, this is something that you could expect from the "epic" Tré. PD: I think that is funny that Tré will be the more serious of the trilogy, and Tré himself is almost the opposite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampy Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 This could be a great acoustic encore song with Good Riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabz Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I couldn't care less if they're on twilight to be honest, i think its great cause it'll probably give them another hit! really don't wanna spoil any more more of the trilogy, especially the very last track but gosh darn it, its so tempting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakerattleandroll Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 what annoys me is the fact that if this song becomes a hit, which i hope it will because its a great song, but the the general public will react to it the same way they did when 21 guns come out.. 'green day hav lost it, such a pussy band'....UMMMM have you listening to UNO or DOS?!??! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdlyon Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I'll probably be crucified for this, but as a person who will attempt to wait until the release of Tre to hear it, I'm actually glad it hasn't been released. It'll make it easier to avoid, at least for a bit, haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awesompawsome Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 where did you even hear/read that it was going to be released today? GDA How is it GDA's fault that the Hollywood Reporter fucked up? I'm not mad at that, they quoted Hollywood reporter, NOT the actual press release It may be a good thing considering how Christina Perri got lots of attention from the previous film. However, I don't want Green Day to get the "wrong" kind of fans if you know what i mean. Either way I'm excited for the new song although I'm not going to bother with seeing the movie. I bet someone will do what they did with the campaign and tape the scene it's in. The Campaign was amazing with or without Green Day According to itunes the song is 5 minutes. I'm expecting a stunning guitar or strings solo. so excited about the song Yeah it's gonna be awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubbie Head Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I'll probably be crucified for this, but as a person who will attempt to wait until the release of Tre to hear it, I'm actually glad it hasn't been released. It'll make it easier to avoid, at least for a bit, haha. That's true! XD The problem is that in the future, if it becomes a huge hit, we will probably hear it on the radio without wanting to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanity Loan Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Wonderful GDA screwd up again, and they were covering this but the sad part is they're not gonna report it's not coming out to the non gdc ers I did yesterday http://www.greendaya....com/news/3682/ And hey, it's not our fault - this is one of very RARE times where a news agency REALLY misinterprets a press release. 99% of the time, we can trust sources who report on a press release. If you'd like to come on as our fact checker and make sure everything is 100% correct, be my guest. But it's very tedious and you would not like doing it. And you say we "screwed up again." Please, show me other times where we've "screwed up" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solongfromthestars Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 That preview sounds really beautiful, so much better than the crappy CSI recordings. Even more excited about hearing the full song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorryRock02 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 That preview sounds really beautiful, so much better than the crappy CSI recordings. Even more excited about hearing the full song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerplunk_chick Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I get what you're saying, but I don't see it as a contradiction. We've been shown so much of Uno and Dos, which both have this garage-y rock sound, that to hear another 21stCB style song is a little bit of a "musical whiplash" (as someone one here put it - can't remember who!). It's like we got so used to the garage rock sound that to all of a sudden hear The Forgotten, it's like "whoa whoa whoa what, where's the garage sound?". I think it'll be one of those situations where we have to hear it in the context of the album to truely judge it. I used the "musical whiplash" phrase when we were discussing The Forgotten on the CSI: NY thread. I personally love the song and I don't have any problem with Green Day kind of bouncing between sounds for each album. I love the way they do it actually. Sure it might have been cool to have three entire albums of "new sounds" but I also don't mind having the bounce back to "old sounds". I like that some songs take me back to Warning, Insomniac, even Kerplunk or FBHT. I also don't mind if it takes me back to American Idiot or 21CB because essentially, to me, these albums are just Green Day, plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrongWayToSalvation Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Uno shouldn't have whet your appetite for back-to-basics Green Day, it was supposed to SATISFY that appetite. Imagine if they had released one record, Uno. Then you would have gotten your fill of awesome 3-minute simple songs. They are following that up with two albums of different styles, which don't showcase their contradicting themselves, rather their incredible range. Maybe if they had released these 3 years apart each, by the time Tre rolled around you'd be ready and waiting for an "epic" AI-style album, but as it stands they're just bestowing us with all the awesome music they've just written, which turned out to be diverse and therefore dividable into 3 separate tomes that are somewhat different genres though all in the Green Day catalogue of style. And I also think The Forgotten as a song sounds like everything 21CB was trying to be but couldn't be. It's like 21 Guns but better. Whereas the last album (before Uno that is) tried a little too hard to be epic, The Forgotten understands itself as a song. I'm sure a lot of people would have been less forgiving of iUno! if it was to be the only album released. I'd sure as hell be disappointed, it doesn't sound like an album that took 3 years to make, more like 6 months if that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Trotsky Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I'm sure a lot of people would have been less forgiving of iUno! if it was to be the only album released. I'd sure as hell be disappointed, it doesn't sound like an album that took 3 years to make, more like 6 months if that. Don't be so sure.I mean it's just your opinion.You can't be say what others would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrongWayToSalvation Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Don't be so sure.I mean it's just your opinion.You can't be say what others would do. I said a lot of people, not everybody, but I can guarantee you that that would change opinions in a major way. People might forgive iUno! for its flaws because they might think of it as a "warm up" album, or that it could be better in association with the other 2 albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Trotsky Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I said a lot of people, not everybody, but I can guarantee you that that would change opinions in a major way. People might forgive iUno! for its flaws because they might think of it as a "warm up" album, or that it could be better in association with the other 2 albums. I understand what you mean my friend but again it's totally subjective view.Anyway it's your opinion and I respect it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yojimbo Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 So it looks like 'The Forgotten' will get a twilight music video rather than a Green Day one. A tease of the video will be shown next week on etonline.com . http://www.etonline.com/movies/126294_Sneak_Peek_of_ET_s_Breaking_Dawn_Part_2_Week/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvrman Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 This may be old news but the Forgotten can be heard in the background of a Twilight TV trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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