localinsomniac Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Not to speculate or anything, but every January 23rd I get a little depressed. It's very subconscious, and I don't even really think about it until I'm wondering, "what the hell is wrong with me these days". Then I remember.... January 23rd, 2001 my dad passed away. It sets off something inside my brain and whether I realize it or not, I get depressed. This is the 30th anniversary of Billie's dad passing away, as he mentioned at Irving Plaza as he sang Wake Me Up.... I lost my dad at 24 years old. I can only imagine the pain and depression that sets in to a child. This depression may be really catching up with Billie now.... Shit, you could be spot-on with that. It's definitely an angle that the mediots aren't about to pursue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastard of 1967 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I've been thinking about this since the news broke and my understanding of all this is that Billie has had problems for some months or possibly longer.He's been working and pushing himself so hard this year. I think he's always had a weakness for alcohol -from things he said in the past- but it looks like its now got way beyond his control. With hindsight we could say occasions like the hospitalization in Italy, the band row before the Shepherds Bush Show and how he's looked tired and run-down recently could be an indication of what was happening. I was personally very worriedt by how upset Tre and Mike looked in the interview after Italy was cancelled. It may still have been food poisoning but I do wonder. I imagine that Adie, Mike, Tre and his other close friends have seen what's happening and tried to help him but he probably told them he was fine and refused to deal with it. The Heart Radio performance was, in my opinion, the tipping point at which Billie himself realised that the quality of the live music and show was suffering and if he carried on he would be unable to perform in future. He suddenly saw the reality of it all. As the live show is what he really lives for he made the decision to act and accept help. I don't think it was the rant that would have bothered him, he was just speaking his mind, but the fact that he couldn't play his guitar or sing properly would have been the final straw. All this is of course is pure speculation on my part. I'm assuming a lot of things but its how I see it. I'm just glad Billie has so many people around him that love him and will help him. I'm sure he 's determined to back to health before the world tour starts and that will really motivate him. He'll bounce back sooner or later and move forward. Good luck with it Billie x When it comes to substance abuse, it's called hitting rock bottom -- it's the crisis point that makes the cost of carrying on greater than the cost of change. Letting fans and bandmates down for a booze kick in a spectacularly public way I think meets that definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Holly Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 http://www.smosh.com...-joe-goes-rehab don't know if this is serious or a joke I would put good money on it being a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solongfromthestars Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 What was the band row before sheperds Bush??? Billie said it was about personal stuff. There's no reason for it to be related to this though, any band naturally falls out on tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmaCharlatan&Saints Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I don't understand why everyone is interpreting "treatment for substance abuse" to mean "rehab". These can be 2 very different things. For example, going to get your stomach pumped in A&E could be considered "treatment for substance abuse" but certainly not rehab. I'm just saying that there are a variety of ways Billie could be receiving support and rehab could be one of them, but lets not go spouting about him being in rehab before we know for sure. That's the media's job. Again, I feel people are jumping the gun a bit here. You're possibly correct, but lets wait until we know for sure before you state it as fact. Again, a job for the media. Well if you read my post properly you would see I stated that it could possibly be rehab OR treatment so im not spouting he is in rehab. Secondly I didnt state it as fact but it was clearly a profound moment at iheart alot of emotion under the influence of drink and OR drugs. Im not speculating I merely watched the performance unfold and that is what seems to have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeper Agent. Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I would put good money on it being a joke Yeah so would I, First paragraph was fine, then it went into the joking side for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sofouska Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 This is terrible... I hope he gets better soon, if that's true. He's a great man; it would be so bad if alcohol or whatever that is stopped him. They have indeed been under too much pressure, all of them. This is so bad I was kinda like, "HELL YES" when they did that in the iHeart show but now I feel lame. Absolutely lame. It seems to me that MIke joined in so that Billie wouldn't look crazy, to be a good friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeper Agent. Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 This is terrible... I hope he gets better soon, if that's true. He's a great man; it would be so bad if alcohol or whatever that is stopped him. They have indeed been under too much pressure, all of them. This is so bad It didn't seem to bad to me, his rant and all. But I guess we don't know what's happening behind the scenes I wish him all the best too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Holly Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Well if you read my post properly you would see I stated that it could possibly be rehab OR treatment so im not spouting he is in rehab. Secondly I didnt state it as fact but it was clearly a profound moment at iheart alot of emotion under the influence of drink and OR drugs. Im not speculating I merely watched the performance unfold and that is what seems to have happened. Well perhaps I misinterpreted your post, but "if that was the case everyone who ever got drunk once would be in freaking rehab" seemed to indicate to me you were saying he's in rehab. And if the statement "The Iheart radio moment was clearly a culmination of things" isn't you stating something as fact (at least in your opinion), then I don't know what is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJN Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 One thing that really pisses me off about all this is how much coverage there is. Green Day has always kept their heads down and their personal lives out of the news. Now fucking media corporations decide they are good to cover when this happens. I can't fucking stand it! False facts are being conjured out of thin air and gossip is ensuing. Leave the fucking guy alone! I never see the fucking Chicago Tribune covering Billie i=when he did Habitat for Humanity. I'm not saying they should. But now they title an article Green Day frontman finally goes to rehab. Apparently some mysterious friend of the band called Billie a loose cannon? Yeah fucking right! Irresponsible journalism incenses me to no end! This is my problem with this whole apology thing. Maybe it saved Green Day, BJ, and Warner from a lawsuit, but all of this media attention brings negative exposure to Billie. He does so many nice things for his fans but this is what will be associated with him now. He looks like a typical fucked up rock star who lets fame go to his head. He deserves better than that. Maybe he has been loving the fame, but he has talked about the extra-personal nature of the songs in this trilogy (one about a friend committing suicide, and many about nostalgia in general) and he is probably lost about where he is in his life right now. He is trying to hold on to his youth because his career basically demands it with the kind of band Green Day is. Whatever he is feeling, its a private issue and the media needs to stop propagandizing it all and exercise some fucking self control! Sorry, but the media has been pissing me off lately. I needed to vent it. Any journalists on here, no disrespect. am sure you understand where I am coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmaCharlatan&Saints Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Well perhaps I misinterpreted your post, but "if that was the case everyone who ever got drunk once would be in freaking rehab" seemed to indicate to me you were saying he's in rehab. And if the statement "The Iheart radio moment was clearly a culmination of things" isn't you stating something as fact (at least in your opinion), then I don't know what is In my opinion it seemed like a culmination of things yes but that doesnt mean I stated it as facted merely my opinion of the concert rant. And like I said I stated later on in my original post that he may be in rehab OR getting treatment. My first comment with the rehab was merely stated in angry fashion as a reaction to some fans thinking that he is now seeking treatment for one moment at a concert not stating as fact he was in rehab. My opinion arent fact a all obviously that was my opinion of the outburst that to ME personally it was clearly something odd the word clearly doesnt insinuate fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fukingcounterstrike Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Maybe I'll see him at my next AA meeting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 What exactly would GD get sued for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmaCharlatan&Saints Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 One thing that really pisses me off about all this is how much coverage there is. Green Day has always kept their heads down and their personal lives out of the news. Now fucking media corporations decide they are good to cover when this happens. I can't fucking stand it! False facts are being conjured out of thin air and gossip is ensuing. Leave the fucking guy alone! I never see the fucking Chicago Tribune covering Billie i=when he did Habitat for Humanity. I'm not saying they should. But now they title an article Green Day frontman finally goes to rehab. Apparently some mysterious friend of the band called Billie a loose cannon? Yeah fucking right! Irresponsible journalism incenses me to no end! This is my problem with this whole apology thing. Maybe it saved Green Day, BJ, and Warner from a lawsuit, but all of this media attention brings negative exposure to Billie. He does so many nice things for his fans but this is what will be associated with him now. He looks like a typical fucked up rock star who lets fame go to his head. He deserves better than that. Maybe he has been loving the fame, but he has talked about the extra-personal nature of the songs in this trilogy (one about a friend committing suicide, and many about nostalgia in general) and he is probably lost about where he is in his life right now. He is trying to hold on to his youth because his career basically demands it with the kind of band Green Day is. Whatever he is feeling, its a private issue and the media needs to stop propagandizing it all and exercise some fucking self control! Sorry, but the media has been pissing me off lately. I needed to vent it. Any journalists on here, no disrespect. am sure you understand where I am coming from. I think its getting so much coverage because the outburst originally seemed to get alot of attention. If it was announced he was getting treatment minus that performance on stage I dont think it would be the news it is now... because one story seems to fit with other the media puts two and two together and BOOM! story explodes. Well thats my take on it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucatotti Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Absolutely. I was just saying this same thing to a friend- in the video, it really looks like Mike only joined in with the guitar-smashing to save BJ from looking even more foolish. If that's the case, it shows what a good friend he is. yeah, I think so too and I think it's really a thing that touches me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornToLose Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 There's no way iheartradio was staged... no way. I refuse to believe that. All this media about it seems to be iheartradio trying to cover their own ass, in my opinion anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlissaGoesRAWR Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 One thing that really pisses me off about all this is how much coverage there is. Green Day has always kept their heads down and their personal lives out of the news. Now fucking media corporations decide they are good to cover when this happens. I can't fucking stand it! False facts are being conjured out of thin air and gossip is ensuing. Leave the fucking guy alone! I never see the fucking Chicago Tribune covering Billie i=when he did Habitat for Humanity. I'm not saying they should. But now they title an article Green Day frontman finally goes to rehab. Apparently some mysterious friend of the band called Billie a loose cannon? Yeah fucking right! Irresponsible journalism incenses me to no end! This is my problem with this whole apology thing. Maybe it saved Green Day, BJ, and Warner from a lawsuit, but all of this media attention brings negative exposure to Billie. He does so many nice things for his fans but this is what will be associated with him now. He looks like a typical fucked up rock star who lets fame go to his head. He deserves better than that. Maybe he has been loving the fame, but he has talked about the extra-personal nature of the songs in this trilogy (one about a friend committing suicide, and many about nostalgia in general) and he is probably lost about where he is in his life right now. He is trying to hold on to his youth because his career basically demands it with the kind of band Green Day is. Whatever he is feeling, its a private issue and the media needs to stop propagandizing it all and exercise some fucking self control! Sorry, but the media has been pissing me off lately. I needed to vent it. Any journalists on here, no disrespect. am sure you understand where I am coming from. Not trying to be that person, but it's the Chicago Sun-Times, not the Tribune, that put that (ridiculous) headline. Tribune had a correct headline. And yeah, I'm a journalist, but not offended whatsoever by your post. I don't consider celebrity gossip news and I don't aspire to cover it. Never have, never will. In fact, I vented about this faux journalism earlier: http://www.greendaycommunity.org/topic/90220-billie-getting-treatment-for-substance-abuse/page__st__810#entry4897772 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDirnt Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Not to speculate or anything, but every January 23rd I get a little depressed. It's very subconscious, and I don't even really think about it until I'm wondering, "what the hell is wrong with me these days". Then I remember.... January 23rd, 2001 my dad passed away. It sets off something inside my brain and whether I realize it or not, I get depressed. This is the 30th anniversary of Billie's dad passing away, as he mentioned at Irving Plaza as he sang Wake Me Up.... I lost my dad at 24 years old. I can only imagine the pain and depression that sets in to a child. This depression may be really catching up with Billie now.... Yeah, this could also be the reason why he could have drank more or just needed to vent his feelings and he did it in the form of rage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vespertine Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 One thing that really pisses me off about all this is how much coverage there is. Green Day has always kept their heads down and their personal lives out of the news. Now fucking media corporations decide they are good to cover when this happens. I can't fucking stand it! False facts are being conjured out of thin air and gossip is ensuing. Leave the fucking guy alone! I never see the fucking Chicago Tribune covering Billie i=when he did Habitat for Humanity. I'm not saying they should. But now they title an article Green Day frontman finally goes to rehab. Apparently some mysterious friend of the band called Billie a loose cannon? Yeah fucking right! Irresponsible journalism incenses me to no end! This is my problem with this whole apology thing. Maybe it saved Green Day, BJ, and Warner from a lawsuit, but all of this media attention brings negative exposure to Billie. He does so many nice things for his fans but this is what will be associated with him now. He looks like a typical fucked up rock star who lets fame go to his head. He deserves better than that. Maybe he has been loving the fame, but he has talked about the extra-personal nature of the songs in this trilogy (one about a friend committing suicide, and many about nostalgia in general) and he is probably lost about where he is in his life right now. He is trying to hold on to his youth because his career basically demands it with the kind of band Green Day is. Whatever he is feeling, its a private issue and the media needs to stop propagandizing it all and exercise some fucking self control! Sorry, but the media has been pissing me off lately. I needed to vent it. Any journalists on here, no disrespect. am sure you understand where I am coming from. Exactly. I'm overwhelmed. I've never seen Billie Joe as a guy the media likes to pick on. And then all of a sudden he's on the spotlight; Everyone is talking about him. He's one of the trending celebrities on the fucking Perez Hilton website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJN Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 What exactly would GD get sued for? They made Clear Channel look bad by saying they disrespected them and by swearing A LOT and being badly composed at a highly publicized event. The name checks on Usher, Rihanna, and Bieber probably didn't help either. I don't know if it was a possibility but it isn't unlikely for a corporation like Clear Channel to try to get some money out of a situation like that I think its getting so much coverage because the outburst originally seemed to get alot of attention. If it was announced he was getting treatment minus that performance on stage I dont think it would be the news it is now... because one story seems to fit with other the media puts two and two together and BOOM! story explodes. Well thats my take on it anyway. That is definitely a big part of it. But it still bothers me that they are using it to make him look bad. Not trying to be that person, but it's the Chicago Sun-Times, not the Tribune, that put that (ridiculous) headline. Tribune had a correct headline. And yeah, I'm a journalist, but not offended whatsoever by your post. I don't consider celebrity gossip news and I don't aspire to cover it. Never have, never will. In fact, I vented about this faux journalism earlier: http://www.greendayc...10#entry4897772 Thank you for the correction. I was too lazy to double check in my rage haha. I am glad you think like that. Cool post too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Holly Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 In my opinion it seemed like a culmination of things yes but that doesnt mean I stated it as facted merely my opinion of the concert rant. And like I said I stated later on in my original post that he may be in rehab OR getting treatment. My first comment with the rehab was merely stated in angry fashion as a reaction to some fans thinking that he is now seeking treatment for one moment at a concert not stating as fact he was in rehab. My opinion arent fact a all obviously that was my opinion of the outburst that to ME personally it was clearly something odd the word clearly doesnt insinuate fact. Well fine if that's what you meant, but it came across rather differently before. One thing that really pisses me off about all this is how much coverage there is. Green Day has always kept their heads down and their personal lives out of the news. Now fucking media corporations decide they are good to cover when this happens. I can't fucking stand it! False facts are being conjured out of thin air and gossip is ensuing. Leave the fucking guy alone! I never see the fucking Chicago Tribune covering Billie i=when he did Habitat for Humanity. I'm not saying they should. But now they title an article Green Day frontman finally goes to rehab. Apparently some mysterious friend of the band called Billie a loose cannon? Yeah fucking right! Irresponsible journalism incenses me to no end! This is my problem with this whole apology thing. Maybe it saved Green Day, BJ, and Warner from a lawsuit, but all of this media attention brings negative exposure to Billie. He does so many nice things for his fans but this is what will be associated with him now. He looks like a typical fucked up rock star who lets fame go to his head. He deserves better than that. Maybe he has been loving the fame, but he has talked about the extra-personal nature of the songs in this trilogy (one about a friend committing suicide, and many about nostalgia in general) and he is probably lost about where he is in his life right now. He is trying to hold on to his youth because his career basically demands it with the kind of band Green Day is. Whatever he is feeling, its a private issue and the media needs to stop propagandizing it all and exercise some fucking self control! Sorry, but the media has been pissing me off lately. I needed to vent it. Any journalists on here, no disrespect. am sure you understand where I am coming from. This totally. Thanks for putting this into words, I didn't quite know how to express it myself. It's the same thing all the time. Kate Middleton's boobs, Prince Harry getting drunk and naked. Who actually gives a fuck (I don't mean about BJ!!)? It isn't news. Obviously people want to know when something happens to a celebrity they care about, but we find out on fan sites etc. The media just blows it out of proportion and twists everything, its just bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDirnt Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 They made Clear Channel look bad by saying they disrespected them and by swearing A LOT and being badly composed at a highly publicized event. The name checks on Usher, Rihanna, and Bieber probably didn't help either. I don't know if it was a possibility but it isn't unlikely for a corporation like Clear Channel to try to get some money out of a situation like that Would be pretty insentive of them to take advantage of someone's problems to get money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metanoia Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 http://www.smosh.com...-joe-goes-rehab don't know if this is serious or a joke It's SMOSH! Sure it's a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
localinsomniac Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Would be pretty insentive of them to take advantage of someone's problems to get money It would be very American of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDirnt Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 It would be very American of them. Oh, well... I'm European so I don't know hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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