Alan86 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Yeah us Irish have been apparently fucked over this time... Green Day really are a bunch of assholes for skipping us this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backyard Skulls Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 People think Green Day are bad? Bon jovi have Diamond (£200), Gold, GA and sitting at Hampden park, seated tickets are going for £12.50 because they were disgusted by the Stones insane prices but yet they charge £200, they have to make a profit! I don't get why people are bitching over another 14? Standing tickets are always a good 10 dearer than seated anyways. If you want to go badly just save for it. It doesn't ~segregate~ the crowd either, it's for crowd control too not just for a rich poor divide. Green day have to make money some way or another, the trilogy flopped so they're charging a bit more for a GC ticket so what? Yes it all goes down to money but so what, just be glad that they are still touring. It's only at 2 shows, not all of them. Then you'd have a reason to complain! /rant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmaCharlatan&Saints Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Green Day really are a bunch of assholes for skipping us this time They soooooo areee like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beathe. Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 You didn't get my point at all. 14 bucks more who aren't necessary to make a better show. The golden circles are just there to make more money because they know there are a lot of people who are willing to buy these tickets. And by the way, in my opinion, 14€ makes a huge difference, especially if you're still a student and attend lots of others show. I wouldn't buy a golden circle ticket... I'm a student, and I would definitely have payed extra for golden circle tickets. Sadly for me they don't have those kinds of tickets to the shows I'm going to. I started to save up money in advance to be able to go at all. Everyone has a different budget off course, but I think that most people can do it if they want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarPunk94 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 simply the fact that they split the crowd makes me angry, no matter if its just 5 € more or 25€ or whatelse..but its just a move to get more money from the fans who rly want to be in front row.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DecanoLP Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Wow, it doesn't matter what other big artists charge for their tickets. Green Day's prices increased from the 21st Century Breakdown tour to now without any reasons and now they're charging even more due to the golden circles. In addition to that, the safety argument doesn't work either. They could easily build up another barrier in the middle of the crowd. But no, they let people pay money for it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo. Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I'm a student, and I would definitely have payed extra for golden circle tickets. Sadly for me they don't have those kinds of tickets to the shows I'm going to. I started to save up money in advance to be able to go at all. Everyone has a different budget off course, but I think that most people can do it if they want to. I think that's not the point. If GD would play a show near my place I would go to the show even if the ticket costs 200 € the point is that money is more important than the music. money rules the world, money rules everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan86 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 boo hoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo. Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 simply the fact that they split the crowd makes me angry, no matter if its just 5 € more or 25€ or whatelse..but its just a move to get more money from the fans who rly want to be in front row.. This. And I'm sorry for all the fans who are waiting for a tour date in their country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseDay Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 You didn't get my point at all. 14 bucks more who aren't necessary to make a better show. The golden circles are just there to make more money because they know there are a lot of people who are willing to buy these tickets. And by the way, in my opinion, 14€ makes a huge difference, especially if you're still a student and attend lots of others show. I wouldn't buy a golden circle ticket... True, but better to split it based on who queued up first rather than who paid extra surely? It's just as easy and it's always worked before. They're still doing it that way at most of the shows though so at this point I'm thinking it probably is just a venue thing. You know, not everyone who goes to a GD Concert isn't a big fan. So this golden circles shit makes sense at all. I mean, someone who goes to a concert, just because some peolpe said the band is good, doesn't have to be in the first row. And with this golden circle, some of the "real" fans can enjoy it more like these people who are like "Hey did you hear about this Greenday band thing? Let's go to their concert and check them out!" Yeha, that's an extreme example, but I hope you got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I'm a student, and I would definitely have payed extra for golden circle tickets. Sadly for me they don't have those kinds of tickets to the shows I'm going to. I started to save up money in advance to be able to go at all. Everyone has a different budget off course, but I think that most people can do it if they want to. Most people can pay a bit extra if they want. But EVERYONE can turn up to queue a bit earlier if they want. Better to do it the way that divides people based on whether they can be bothered to queue longer than the way that's based on money I think. If they need to make extra money they could just increase the price of all the tickets equally by a smaller amount. They've got by just fine doing that so far throughout their career, so I hope other than this couple of shows that's how they'll continue. You know, not everyone who goes to a GD Concert isn't a big fan. So this golden circles shit makes sense at all. I mean, someone who goes to a concert, just because some peolpe said the band is good, doesn't have to be in the first row. And with this golden circle, some of the "real" fans can enjoy it more like these people who are like "Hey did you hear about this Greenday band thing? Let's go to their concert and check them out!" Yeha, that's an extreme example, but I hope you got it. I think it's a shame that there has to be a split at all, no one really "deserves" to be at the front more. But there's only so much room at the front/in a golden circle, so it has to be decided somehow. Neither way is perfect, but personally I think basing it on who queues longest is fairer than basing it on who can pay more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan86 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Wow, it doesn't matter what other big artists charge for their tickets. Green Day's prices increased from the 21st Century Breakdown tour to now without any reasons and now they're charging even more due to the golden circles. In addition to that, the safety argument doesn't work either. They could easily build up another barrier in the middle of the crowd. But no, they let people pay money for it... Do you actually expect an explaination for rise in costs from tour to tour from artists/performers. The cost of traveling has increased, the cost of hotels has increased,the cost of renting venues has increased, Insurance prices have increased, taxes have increased, the price of bringing a whole crew around the world to set up the stage/lighting has increased. Increases are inevitable. No performer is ever asked to explain an increase in ticket prices because it is so clear why it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I can see both sides to this argument. Yeah, splitting the crowd by hose who paid more is a bit unfair, but I wouldn't call it the 'rich' section. $14 isn't an awful lot to most people, I think it works out at about £8? That's currently sat in my change pot. Yeah, for some people it might be a bit more than they were hoping but it's not a massive amount. I could definitely see why people would be pissed if it was an extra like, $30+, but I just don't see it for $14. I'm not saying you're wrong to b annoyed but I just don't see it as too big of an issue. The money-making part just makes me laugh, though. Of course they're trying to make money out of us, that's pretty obvious & I think a daft side to the argument. Like I said, if it was a lot more, then I'd be a bit annoyed but it's not. It's $14. I'd be more than happy to pay an extra £8 [in all honestly, I'd probably pay an extra £20-£30, about $50 I think] to be up front without too much hassle. Increase of prices is redundant, too. Of course prices are gunna go up, that's how life works. Everything gradually gets more expensive one way or another. But I like Hermiones idea, where the golden circle isn't a higher price, it's reserved for those who get their first. THAT is the right way to do it. That way you don't get people turning up 10 minutes before doors & walking straight in. I would be s pissed if I'd been there for hours. I'm still pissed that they're only playing in London so far, not at them, just as my shitty luck. If they were to play local, like Cardiff? I'd be more than happy to spend £100 on a ticket to see them. But then again, I'm willing to spend a lot of money on stuff I'm passionate for. I'm broke as fuck, I'm on a minimum wage job that I'm about to lose [wahhh], my bills already total two 3rd's of my pay but I will find a way by any means to be able to see these guys live. Not trying to say 'hah you're a shit fan because you won't spend more money' because that's wrong & I don't agree with that, just stating my personal opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beathe. Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I think that's not the point. If GD would play a show near my place I would go to the show even if the ticket costs 200 € the point is that money is more important than the music. money rules the world, money rules everything. Yeah, I do see the point. But honestly I don't mind paying more to be able to be closer to the band, and not lose my spot during the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 But I like Hermiones idea, where the golden circle isn't a higher price, it's reserved for those who get their first. THAT is the right way to do it. That way you don't get people turning up 10 minutes before doors & walking straight in. I would be s pissed if I'd been there for hours.It's not my idea hehe , it's just how the band's always done it. And it's how they're still doing it, it's only at two of the many upcoming shows that it's different. I'm hoping they stick to their usual way of running golden circles (and think they probably will), that's all I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo. Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Yeah, I do see the point. But honestly I don't mind paying more to be able to be closer to the band, and not lose my spot during the show. yes. I understand your side because i will do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beathe. Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Most people can pay a bit extra if they want. But EVERYONE can turn up to queue a bit earlier if they want. Better to do it the way that divides people based on whether they can be bothered to queue longer than the way that's based on money I think. If they need to make extra money they could just increase the price of all the tickets equally by a smaller amount. They've got by just fine doing that so far throughout their career, so I hope other than this couple of shows that's how they'll continue. I think it's a shame that there has to be a split at all, no one really "deserves" to be at the front more. But there's only so much room at the front/in a golden circle, so it has to be decided somehow. Neither way is perfect, but personally I think basing it on who queues longest is fairer than basing it on who can pay more. You make some good points. I can see both sides. But I still would have prefered to have a golden circle ticket. With that kind of ticket I could probably have had a good spot during the entire show, not just the five first songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan86 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 The paying more for Golden Circle tickets can sometimes be down to the venue more than the performer. Some venues don't like people camping the night before and then queuing all day just so they can be near the front. There way of stopping this is by selling different tickets for the front. Im not saying this is the case here but it does happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requila Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 The paying more for Golden Circle tickets can sometimes be down to the venue more than the performer. Some venues don't like people camping the night before and then queuing all day just so they can be near the front. There way of stopping this is by selling different tickets for the front. Im not saying this is the case here but it does happen Plus it might have to do with the low ticket prices for the countries they're doing this in. Except for Vienna, they're only doing it in new countries they don't always visit or never visited before (Serbia, Estonia, Poland). Ticket prices vary from € 24 to like € 40 for these shows, so they need to make money somehow, so they make it with these pit tickets. Without it, they maybe wouldn't have visit these countries in the first place. I'd rather have a Green Day show in my country with more expensive GC tickets than no show at all, and that's maybe what Green Day was thinking too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akshat Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I was looking at Green Day's Tour History on Wikipedia.It's dissappointing to see that Tour Dates this time are not even half of what they were for 21stCB, including the cancelled ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requila Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I was looking at Green Day's Tour History on Wikipedia.It's dissappointing to see that Tour Dates this time are not even half of what they were for 21stCB, including the cancelled ones. This European leg is actually already much bigger than the 2nd leg of the 21stCB tour where they did festivals too. And they're still announcing dates. And there weren't any dates cancelled. Aren't you talking about the American tour ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan86 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I was looking at Green Day's Tour History on Wikipedia.It's dissappointing to see that Tour Dates this time are not even half of what they were for 21stCB, including the cancelled ones. There could be another leg to the european tour. This part of the tour seems to be mostly Stadium/festival shows. They could come back again on this tour and play arenas too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo. Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 There could be another leg to the european tour. This part of the tour seems to be mostly Stadium/festival shows. They could come back again on this tour and play arenas too. I hope so. And it would be not very nice if they didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestboundSign! Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I'm really hoping for a second tour leg, especially since this one doesn't seem too fruitful for me and of course also a lot of other people I've heard of. I just really wish they'd announce when we have all the dates and also if there will be a return in 2014 or something. Not knowing anything makes planning so difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 ^ Exactly that. I'm so hopeful for a 2014 UK tour that I'm holding out on buying a ticket to Emirates, so if it turns out there ISN'T a UK tour, I'll just be so upset. I hate not knowing, that's the most horrid part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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