Sanity Loan Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Of course you are. American Idiot was an admonishment of the Bush administration and conservative, religious politics. Now it isn't. Score one for the politically correct brigade. Congratulations! What is your problem? My comment had nothing to do with politics.... Not everything in this world is about politics, as you seem to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissawebster Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 What is your problem? My comment had nothing to do with politics.... Not everything in this world is about politics, as you seem to think. In the case of American Idiot, it is all about politics. Now it's not. So yay! Mission accomplished. But you're right. I shouldn't have assumed that was your personal reason for being happy. A bigger playlist at work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Femme Gauche Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I still don't see how taking out swears takes away the political message of the song... One can make a politically charged statement without the use of the words "fuck", "shit", "bitch", "fag" or drug references. The message is not dependent upon those words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I still don't see how taking out swears takes away the political message of the song... One can make a politically charged statement without the use of the words "fuck", "shit", "bitch", "fag" or drug references. The message is not dependent upon those words. Exactly there are alot of politically charged songs from the past that doesnt have a single curse word in them Seems this generation is thinks cursing is just a nessicary thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Femme Gauche Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Granted, I love those words but not having them doesn't detract from the message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farley drexel hatcher Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 In the case of American Idiot, it is all about politics. Now it's not. So yay! Mission accomplished. But you're right. I shouldn't have assumed that was your personal reason for being happy. A bigger playlist at work? American Idiot isnt even that political but whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJedi Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 In the case of American Idiot, it is all about politics. Now it's not. So yay! Mission accomplished. But you're right. I shouldn't have assumed that was your personal reason for being happy. A bigger playlist at work? All about politics? What album have you been listening to? not American Idiot anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan86 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 American Idiot isnt even that political but whatever. Exactly, and even with the songs that are political, taking out 1 or 2 "fucks" does not affect the political message at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21stcenturyidiot Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 And also I don't know what's happening to the band like first Billie said he hates technology then he gets a Twitter and they make Green Day: Rock Band (I have no problem with it I'm just sayin) and now they all have iPhones and instagrams which Billie said himself that he hates iPads and iPhones and Steve Jobs and now he has one? I think a lot of it is necessary, things like twitter and getting an iPhone. Twitter is important for interacting with the fans, and an Iphone is a phone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissawebster Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I'm bored with talking in circles with Warner employee trolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malleus Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 The Green Daypocalypse is coming. No more choruses, rap songs and now censored albums. What's next? Honestly though, a censored American Idiot is a bit of a kick in the balls. To say that album is not political would just not be true, but of course there is more to that. I don't know why it's being released years after the album is coming out and I'm not going to say anything bad about Green Day because as long as there is an uncensored version to pick up, a censored version doesn't bother me. People change and if they have been giving the OK to censor their work I really don't think that means anybody should lose their respect for them because they're older now. I think their mindset isn't "send a message" like it was back in the AI era but it's "get the music out." I'm not saying this is an excuse for the whole thing but it seems like a reasonable thing they could be thinking. The message still gets out and there's no swears so the bitchy parents can't bitch and we still have access to the songs the way they were intended. I'm happy. Also I think people are both over and underthinking the control the label has. Like I said before, it was probably a compromise. Warner isn't bossing Green Day around but Green Day simply cannot maintain their status on the label and do whatever they please at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissawebster Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 The Green Daypocalypse is coming. No more choruses, rap songs and now censored albums. What's next? They're censoring the entire catalogue. There will be "clean" versions of every album they've ever done now. Official videos too apparently. Billie Joe Armstrong was right. Old Green Day is gone. They've moved on. Now it's all about crash and burn pop star marketing and making as much money as they possibly can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21stcenturyidiot Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 And also I don't know what's happening to the band like first Billie said he hates technology then he gets a Twitter and they make Green Day: Rock Band (I have no problem with it I'm just sayin) and now they all have iPhones and instagrams which Billie said himself that he hates iPads and iPhones and Steve Jobs and now he has one? I think a lot of it is necessary, things like twitter and getting an iPhone. Twitter is important for interacting with the fans, and an Iphone is a phone They're censoring the entire catalogue. There will be "clean" versions of every album they've ever done now. Official videos too apparently. Billie Joe Armstrong was right. Old Green Day is gone. They've moved on. Now it's all about crash and burn pop star marketing and making as much money as they possibly can. What a load of old bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malleus Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 They're censoring the entire catalogue. There will be "clean" versions of every album they've ever done now. Official videos too apparently. Billie Joe Armstrong was right. Old Green Day is gone. They've moved on. Now it's all about crash and burn pop star marketing and making as much money as they possibly can. Do you honestly believe that's his mindset? Why would he need more money? He's obviously rich as fuck, there is no way he's doing this for money. Also "old Green Day" is not gone because you can never erase the past. There is only one Green Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 They arent releasing every album edited ... you're going far to extreme with this Melissa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastard of 1967 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 They arent releasing every album edited Their flagship album just got rereleased in edited form. What makes you think that 21st Century Breakdown and Dookie aren't next in line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farley drexel hatcher Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 The censored American Idiot was listed a while back, but so far nothing else is and since AI is their most commercial album I don't expect them to bother with anything else. They just put out an album box set; if they cared that much they'd have censored it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather. Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 The American Idiot album is nowhere near as political as 21CB was. Only 2/12 songs make any kind of bold statements and the rest hardly, if ever, reference political issues. 21CB was a barrage of political turmoil (virtually EVERY song besides LNOE and maybe H&H was some kind of social commentary) so it made sense that they took such an anti-establishment approach to marketing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 There's always been censored versions of their videos, have you seen the crappy Geek Stink Breath one where the whole dentist part is cut out so it's just the band playing? What matters is there aren't ONLY censored versions. Explicit versions of all their songs and videos are freely available. All the lyrics, images and messages are out there uncut for all to hear and see. How does the fact that censored versions also exist take away from that? The same amount of people will still be enjoying uncensored Green Day and the band will still be judged by the media and public on their uncensored stuff. The additional censored versions just mean that in addition to that people will be listening to more Green Day around their kids, family, at work, in shops, and on tv and radio during the day. Big deal, what difference does it make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Duck Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 They should censor 21st Century Breakdown by re-releasing it without Christian's Inferno. I'd buy it again in a heartbeat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissawebster Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Do you honestly believe that's his mindset? Why would he need more money? He's obviously rich as fuck, there is no way he's doing this for money. Also "old Green Day" is not gone because you can never erase the past. There is only one Green Day. Yeah, 'cause another reason is so much more likely for them to go back into older albums and release censored versions. Please enlighten me, because I'd really love to know what the other reason is. I get, though I don't agree, why they would begin censoring their albums now as they move forward into new music. I've heard all the excuses. They're older. They've changed their minds. They had to make concessions with Warner, etc... I get it. I really do. But to go back into older albums and do the same thing??? There's no other reason for that than making money off their most popular work while they can capitalize on the spotlight shining on them right now because of the album trilogy. I can't debate this topic anymore because it disgusts me. Let me just say congratulations to Warner marketing for ruining one of the few great bands left that hadn't completely fallen victim to corporate America. Excellent job guys! There's always been censored versions of their videos, have you seen the crappy Geek Stink Breath one where the whole dentist part is cut out so it's just the band playing? What matters is there aren't ONLY censored versions. Explicit versions of all their songs and videos are freely available. All the lyrics, images and messages are out there uncut for all to hear and see. How does the fact that censored versions also exist take away from that? The same amount of people will still be enjoying uncensored Green Day and the band will still be judged by the media and public on their uncensored stuff. The additional censored versions just mean that in addition to that people will be listening to more Green Day around their kids, family, at work, in shops, and on tv and radio during the day. Big deal, what difference does it make? You're talking about bootleg videos. That doesn't count. And the official American Idiot video is now censored. There is no official uncensored video of American Idiot now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Their flagship album just got rereleased in edited form. What makes you think that 21st Century Breakdown and Dookie aren't next in line? Cause it's not in the release shec and since when did Dookie ever have a p.a. sticker? They sell it at Wal Mart as is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malleus Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Yeah, 'cause another reason is so much more likely for them to go back into older albums and release censored versions. Please enlighten me, because I'd really love to know what the other reason is. I get, though I don't agree, why they would begin censoring their albums now as they move forward into new music. I've heard all the excuses. They're older. They've changed their minds. They had to make concessions with Warner, etc... I get it. I really do. But to go back into older albums and do the same thing??? There's no other reason for that than making money off their most popular work while they can capitalize on the spotlight shining on them right now because of the album trilogy. I can't debate this topic anymore because it disgusts me. Let me just say congratulations to Warner marketing for ruining one of the few great bands left that hadn't completely fallen victim to corporate America. Excellent job guys! I'm not saying I claim to know this magical reason they're doing that, or I would support it if I did, but all I'm saying is that this is hardly about money. We can say this with pretty good certainity. They have never expressed any greed throughout their career and they are already millionaires so I cannot see why they would suddenly do it now. It just doesn't make sense. I'm really sorry you feel that this is ruining one of the great bands that hadn't fallen victim to corporate America. I had to laugh a bit at reading that, to be honest. If you think Green Day has been your secret up the punx band all these years and are just now getting into corporate America you were obviously in for a bit of a rude awakening. If you choose to disrespect them and not enjoy them based not on their music but the marketing their label does than you are just acting immaturely. That being said, I don't care that much about this whole thing because like I've said before, as long as they are putting out work uncensored I don't give a shit what they do. I can understand why you feel like you do, but that doesn't mean I don't think it's stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 It makes financial sense for the record label to release censored editions of the music because it will be sold in more places and reach a wider audience. It makes sense for the band to agree to this because they want as many people as possible to hear their music. So y'all can quit your bitching and get on with enjoying their music, censored or uncensored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Wal mart sells dookie ish warning nimrod as is. I just bought ish when i got the oh love ep the other week. all the songs unedited since those albums never carried the p.a. sticker. There are no plans to censor 21st or any other album is an response I got... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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