NickD Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Can't say I agree, but I respect your opinion. I thought Jason Freese should have recorded a saxophone solo for the studio version of The Static Age because the live solo he did for that song blew Billie's guitar solo on the album version out of the water. some of the top-of-the-head things freese does is great, such as the sax solo in static age- it makes it sound more of a Springsteen song, which is amazing. but listen to him in i fought the law, i think the mtv italy show during AI? he completely ruins it by his random key-strokes during a solo. almost embarrassingly, so. i've noticed it in newer songs, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDirnt Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 some of the top-of-the-head things freese does is great, such as the sax solo in static age- it makes it sound more of a Springsteen song, which is amazing. but listen to him in i fought the law, i think the mtv italy show during AI? he completely ruins it by his random key-strokes during a solo. almost embarrassingly, so. i've noticed it in newer songs, too. When? I didn't notice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Benjamin Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Seriously it's kind of annoying now that people are saying he's not an official member when Billie himself said it, goddamn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Seriously it's kind of annoying now that people are saying he's not an official member when Billie himself said it, goddamn. He didn't, he said he's the fourth member. That could be "the official fourth member" or "the unofficial fourth member" . I think what most people are saying is there's still a difference between Jason's role in the band and the other three's role. I don't think anyone can deny that, it's awesome that he's now playing a bigger part writing and recording and alongside the others in the album booklet photos etc, but he still isn't playing the exact same "full" member role that Billie Mike and Tre are. I don't think it matters what he's labelled anyway (and I don't think he or the band do either haha), but I can see why people would still think of him as an unofficial member or an unofficial official member in comparison to the other three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Benjamin Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 If he was unofficial in the Uno booklet his name wouldn't be with Billie Mike and Tre it would be where the producers and session musicians are. He also wouldn't be in the promos, I think a lot of people just want to think it's still just Billie Mike and Tre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daughter.of.Rage.and.Love Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 To me, he's the unofficial fourth member and has been for a while. He just got even more involved now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Ill put it like this... Jason is apart of GD contract with WMGhas touring members or studio back up don't just get added to a label's contract... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendepent Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I think that yes, he is. As Billie Joe's best friend, I don't see why he doesn't deserve it. Without him, you can't see some songs that you love live, like Jesus Of Suburbia, as example. I'm completely happy for him for his addition to the trilogy records Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
localinsomniac Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I realized the other day that Jason is the one thing I don't like about ¡Uno!. I love him; I love his personality and what he brings to the live show. But hearing his guitar playing on the record kind of brings it down ever so slightly. It's not that he's a bad guitarist; far from it, in fact. It's that his style is different from Billie's. The guitar tracks don't sound as tight when I'm used to hearing only BJ on the recording. Yeah, yeah- bitchpissmoangetoverit, right? He's not going anywhere and that's fine. Just dropping my 2 cents in the bucket. Weeee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 When? I didn't notice must not have been that video. it was one played on mtv though in europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momoluvGD Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDirnt Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 If he was unofficial in the Uno booklet his name wouldn't be with Billie Mike and Tre it would be where the producers and session musicians are. He also wouldn't be in the promos, I think a lot of people just want to think it's still just Billie Mike and Tre If he was official he would appear in all photoshoots instead of only Mike, Tré and Billie appearing in most. must not have been that video. it was one played on mtv though in europe Ok thanks On a side note, please tell me your avatar is photoshopped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 If he was official he would appear in all photoshoots instead of only Mike, Tré and Billie appearing in most. Billie wouldnt say he was if he wasnt they wouldnt have added Jason to their contract if he wasnt .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 If he was official he would appear in all photoshoots instead of only Mike, Tré and Billie appearing in most. Ok thanks On a side note, please tell me your avatar is photoshopped nope, not photoshopped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawx Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Ithink its great that they are crediting him for contributing to the albums. He's a great guitarist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
localinsomniac Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Billie wouldnt say he was if he wasnt they wouldnt have added Jason to their contract if he wasnt .... Just to play devil's advocate- any way you can furnish proof of this? You make a lot of overtures to working in the business, so I'd be interesting in seeing his name on a document.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Just to play devil's advocate- any way you can furnish proof of this? You make a lot of overtures to working in the business, so I'd be interesting in seeing his name on a document.. I worked in the music industry for 14 years before I retired from it, now currently in movies with Warner Bros Studios. I still in contact with my former music people I will say I haven't seen the contract, but the person at the label is a very high up exec who oversees all artists in the WMG fold... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
localinsomniac Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I worked in the music industry for 14 years before I retired from it, now currently in movies with Warner Bros Studios. I still in contact with my former music people I will say I haven't seen the contract, but the person at the label is a very high up exec who oversees all artists in the WMG fold... Fair enough. Just out of curiosity though- what moved you to leave the business? And being only 30 now, how did you break in so young? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Fair enough. Just out of curiosity though- what moved you to leave the business? And being only 30 now, how did you break in so young? Too much bullshit and politics in music I started doing work with a Dj named Dj Screw and started from there I mainly worked with rap when I worked in music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cori Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 This conversation is still going on? He was listed as a contributing member in the Uno booklet, Billie said some time ago that Green Day has four members, and on top of all that, why the heck does it even matter? Member or not, it's not up to us to decide what his status is. That's the band's choice. I don't know, maybe people like thinking of Green Day as a threesome. Okay, that's cool, but one has to remember that they have had more than three live members for at least the last 13 years. Who cares if he's not in all of the promotional photos or interviews? As I said earlier, that's up to the band to decide what Jason's role is. Also, it's Wikipedia official. (I know they're not a credible source, I just thought it was funny.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_White_(musician) Oh, and someone was asking where Billie said that Jason was the fourth member. He most recently said it in the recent issue of Guitar World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDirnt Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 nope, not photoshopped Then the spide has to be fake. It has to! This conversation is still going on? He was listed as a contributing member in the Uno booklet, Billie said some time ago that Green Day has four members If so then why he isn't in the pic in your avatar, for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Then the spide has to be fake. It has to! If so then why he isn't in the pic in your avatar, for example? Theres quite a few Nirvana photo shoots without Kurt Cobain what is your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDirnt Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Theres quite a few Nirvana photo shoots without Kurt Cobain what is your point? But there is like 1 or 2 with Jason. I don't think he is either official or unofficial. I think he's stuck between both. He is more of a live member, but he isn't as official as Billie, Mike or Tré. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 But there is like 1 or 2 with Jason. I don't think he is either official or unofficial. I think he's stuck between both. He is more of a live member, but he isn't as official as Billie, Mike or Tré. Jason is all over Uno booklet... escp the cd book one Live members dont get listed with the group on album credits... he'd been listed as an additional musician in small letters... Just cause you dont think he is dont make him not offical I dont see the big deal is like if Billie & co wants to add Spice Girls Justin Biber and Ricky Martin to Green Day thats their power to do so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cori Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 If so then why he isn't in the pic in your avatar, for example? I don't see why he has to be in every promotional photo to be an official member. There are promotional photos of just Billie or just Mike. Does that mean that the others aren't official members because they aren't in those specific photos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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