watchmefade92 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I'm wondering if they ever used the word "official" for Tré when he joined the band. Back then, playing shows and recording albums was the only thing they had to do, I guess, so there was no question and no need to use this word. For me, it's like the same with Jason. Also, Jason clearly doesn't want to be a product, so he doesn't appear in interviews and commercials. It's like he's that punk rock guy who keeps Green Day down to earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdmiller01 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 oh my god is this argument about Jason being a member still going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuan Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Jason can't join the band because trio is trio just like it is what it is. Even Jason seems nice always smile on his face and like to disappear in the spot light of GD. Even Billie likes this old big cat and goes, can we keep him as a part of our family? I think it is about time to bring him in as he has been being helpful to us.. No, you say, I like cat but trio is trio....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Jason can't join the band because trio is trio just like it is what it is. But yet it's not up to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuan Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 But yet it's not up to you ever heard sarcasm ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 ever heard sarcasm ? Lol yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Also, Jason clearly doesn't want to be a product, so he doesn't appear in interviews and commercials. It's like he's that punk rock guy who keeps Green Day down to earth. It's not just in the commercial side of things that he takes a lesser role than the other band members though, it's also in very much artistic aspects of the band such as in music videos and live on stage. In fact in every aspect other than the new albums and album booklets. Nothing wrong with that and I'm not saying he's not in the band, but he still isn't playing the same role as the other members and he still isn't presented as a member the same way the others are. So while he is obviously an important part of the band, I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to differentiate between his role and the role of the other three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerplunk!!! Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 It's a tricky one and i have two contridictive opinions, my other favourite band has always Been Sum 41, i was gutted when Dave Baksh left and then annoyed by the fact they consider Tom Thacker of Gob their 4th official member now yet he didn't get to record the lead parts he will play at every show on their latest album. This is diferent to Green Day though, i don't like the idea of Sum 41 coming across a trio when they are still a four piece band. Green Day however started as a trio and imo should always stay that way, Jason's main job is to give the band a bigger live sound which he does great, Billie's being playing lead over chords ever since the 1000 hours ep and no one was saying they should have a 4th member for their first few albums. Dont get me wrong i think Jason is great and i love the part he plays in Pinhead Gunpowder where he replaced a member and then recorded vocals/guitar and performed. With Green Day it seems more of a live thing though rather than an artistic contribution which is why i'd personally prefer them to always stay a trio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Why is this still even open? Jason is an an official member get over it it's not the end of the world... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigSniffingGlue Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 It's not just in the commercial side of things that he takes a lesser role than the other band members though, it's also in very much artistic aspects of the band such as in music videos and live on stage. In fact in every aspect other than the new albums and album booklets. Nothing wrong with that and I'm not saying he's not in the band, but he still isn't playing the same role as the other members and he still isn't presented as a member the same way the others are. So while he is obviously an important part of the band, I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to differentiate between his role and the role of the other three. this, I couldn't have said it better I think it doesn't matter on how much interviews he will appear from now on, of course I'm not gonna say he's not part of the band, but from my point of view, his role won't be the same as the role of the other three. Also, Billie 'Tré and Mike always seem so excite, weird and crazy, especially when they play live ,and I can't say the same about Jason, Billie himself said they work well together 'cause Billie's more explosive, while Jason is more mellow. I think that because of this it's harder for me to connect to Jason in the same way, I can't feel his raw and crazy emotions the way I feel the other three's. It may sound weird but this is one of the biggest reasons it's a bit hard for me to consider him an official member (though I know he is, and actually it didn't change a lot of things so I guess it's cool with me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummerman Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Why is this still even open? Jason is an an official member get over it it's not the end of the world... I think that the signed instruments from iHeartRadio say it all. Only the members of Green Day signed it. Jason White's not an 'official member'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asa. Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I think that the signed instruments from iHeartRadio say it all. Only the members of Green Day signed it. Jason White's not an 'official member'. Maybe Jason wasn't available to sign it. Honestly that the worst information you could use to back up a point like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I think that the signed instruments from iHeartRadio say it all. Only the members of Green Day signed it. Jason White's not an 'official member'. But yet Billie Mike says he is the movie credits states he is the album credit states he is If you are going by a signed guitar them when a radio station did a guitar signed by Nirvana but only Krist and Dave signed it so by your logic Kurt Cobain wasn't a member of Nirvana Guitar Center did a Aerosmith drum last year but Joe Perry didnt sign it i guess Joe Perry is not a Aerosmith member by your logic Warner wouldnt add Jason on the contract if he wasnt a official member they dont add touring members Freese and Jeff werent added to the contracts but White was geez i fucking wonder why... oh yeah because he became official... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummerman Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Maybe Jason wasn't available to sign it. Honestly that the worst information you could use to back up a point like this. Jason was at iHeartRadio. Maybe you're insinuating he was in the toilet and thus engaged? I guess they didn't feel the need to wait for him because he wasn't a real band member But yet Billie Mike says he is the movie credits states he is the album credit states he is If you are going by a signed guitar them when a radio station did a guitar signed by Nirvana but only Krist and Dave signed it so by your logic Kurt Cobain wasn't a member of Nirvana Guitar Center did a Aerosmith drum last year but Joe Perry didnt sign it i guess Joe Perry is not a Aerosmith member by your logic Warner wouldnt add Jason on the contract if he wasnt a official member they dont add touring members Freese and Jeff werent added to the contracts but White was geez i fucking wonder why... oh yeah because he became official... I don't want to start a precedent comparing to other bands up to two decades ago. Logic, as you put it, is not transferable like that. I'm making a case for this particular event. A big PR event on the back of a trilogy of album releases. Green Day's next big thing after AI and 21CB. The management team would certainly want their PR stunt of having the contest winner meet the band and get signed instruments to come off without a hitch. And so they did - by having the 'official' members of the band be present and sign. What is certain is, Jason White was present at that event (unlike the radio station and Guitar Centre examples you gave) but did not contribute his signature. I don't disagree that Jason should be credited on the trilogy. He obviously contributed to its writing, and should be thanked for it. But that does not mean he's official. It's not like American Idiot's liner which said 'Green Day is....BJA, MD, TC' Excuses that Jason 'doesn't like publicity' or 'is low profile' are really weak, in my opinion. None of the official sites credit him. He's not even been allowed to sign the winner's prize at iHeartRadio. Green Day is still a trio, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teh_dude_guy_9 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaWI5usBZ4M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Jason was at iHeartRadio. Maybe you're insinuating he was in the toilet and thus engaged? I guess they didn't feel the need to wait for him because he wasn't a real band member I don't want to start a precedent comparing to other bands up to two decades ago. Logic, as you put it, is not transferable like that. I'm making a case for this particular event. A big PR event on the back of a trilogy of album releases. Green Day's next big thing after AI and 21CB. The management team would certainly want their PR stunt of having the contest winner meet the band and get signed instruments to come off without a hitch. And so they did - by having the 'official' members of the band be present and sign. What is certain is, Jason White was present at that event (unlike the radio station and Guitar Centre examples you gave) but did not contribute his signature. I don't disagree that Jason should be credited on the trilogy. He obviously contributed to its writing, and should be thanked for it. But that does not mean he's official. It's not like American Idiot's liner which said 'Green Day is....BJA, MD, TC' Excuses that Jason 'doesn't like publicity' or 'is low profile' are really weak, in my opinion. None of the official sites credit him. He's not even been allowed to sign the winner's prize at iHeartRadio. Green Day is still a trio, I think. Joe Perry was present at their contest he didnt sign it so by your idiotic fucking logic he is NOT a member of Aerosmith... And if Jason wasnt official he wouldnt have been listed with the main credits of the album or the dvd he'd been listed as additional musician Can you tell me why the band had him added to their record contract with the label? Can you tell me WHY Billie and Mike has said he's a official but i guess Billie and Mike dont know what the fuck they saying right? Get over it he's official Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaraGreenDay Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaWI5usBZ4M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaWI5usBZ4MOMG i love this!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J&TheNight Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Jason was at iHeartRadio. Maybe you're insinuating he was in the toilet and thus engaged? I guess they didn't feel the need to wait for him because he wasn't a real band member I don't want to start a precedent comparing to other bands up to two decades ago. Logic, as you put it, is not transferable like that. I'm making a case for this particular event. A big PR event on the back of a trilogy of album releases. Green Day's next big thing after AI and 21CB. The management team would certainly want their PR stunt of having the contest winner meet the band and get signed instruments to come off without a hitch. And so they did - by having the 'official' members of the band be present and sign. What is certain is, Jason White was present at that event (unlike the radio station and Guitar Centre examples you gave) but did not contribute his signature. I don't disagree that Jason should be credited on the trilogy. He obviously contributed to its writing, and should be thanked for it. But that does not mean he's official. It's not like American Idiot's liner which said 'Green Day is....BJA, MD, TC' Excuses that Jason 'doesn't like publicity' or 'is low profile' are really weak, in my opinion. None of the official sites credit him. He's not even been allowed to sign the winner's prize at iHeartRadio. Green Day is still a trio, I think. I completely agree. Whether or not Jason White "is" a member or not is up for debate, but I think it goes without saying that if he IS a member, it's no where on the level of Billie, Mike, and Tre.Joe Perry was present at their contest he didnt sign it so by your idiotic fucking logic he is NOT a member of Aerosmith... And if Jason wasnt official he wouldnt have been listed with the main credits of the album or the dvd he'd been listed as additional musician Can you tell me why the band had him added to their record contract with the label? Can you tell me WHY Billie and Mike has said he's a official but i guess Billie and Mike dont know what the fuck they saying right? Get over it he's official I don't recall the band revealing their private and very confidential contract with Warner to the public >_> Yea, a lot of things, including BJ himself, point to Jason being a member. Then, a lot of things, from the same sources aside from BJ, point to the exact opposite. I've made this exact point a dozen times and no one has actually been able to deny it truthfully. We get one sign saying yes, Jason is a member, then on the same day get one that says no, Jason is not a member. For instance, the mini bio the Idiot Club issued like 2 months ago made no mention of Jason at all. Outside of a small comment made by Billie and the very unreliable credits of Quatro, the DVD that has been postponed and even changed it's name several time, we haven't had much to go on that says Jason is a member. I don't recall Billie ever actually saying official either. He may consider Jason an equal, but BJ is allowed his own opinion just like everyone else. This band is still a trio in my eyes, and apparently in over 90% of the medias eyes as well considering what we have been given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cob Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 In an interview with ESPN Mike Dirnt was asked why they finally recognized Jason White as a member of the band. His answer pretty much confirms it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I completely agree. Whether or not Jason White "is" a member or not is up for debate, but I think it goes without saying that if he IS a member, it's no where on the level of Billie, Mike, and Tre. I don't recall the band revealing their private and very confidential contract with Warner to the public >_> Yea, a lot of things, including BJ himself, point to Jason being a member. Then, a lot of things, from the same sources aside from BJ, point to the exact opposite. I've made this exact point a dozen times and no one has actually been able to deny it truthfully. We get one sign saying yes, Jason is a member, then on the same day get one that says no, Jason is not a member. For instance, the mini bio the Idiot Club issued like 2 months ago made no mention of Jason at all. Outside of a small comment made by Billie and the very unreliable credits of Quatro, the DVD that has been postponed and even changed it's name several time, we haven't had much to go on that says Jason is a member. I don't recall Billie ever actually saying official either. He may consider Jason an equal, but BJ is allowed his own opinion just like everyone else. This band is still a trio in my eyes, and apparently in over 90% of the medias eyes as well considering what we have been given. The contract isnt public i know cause one i have worked for WMG in the past and the VP of Access Industries who owns WMG is a close family friend. As far as Cuatro the box set edition will still have Jason as the cover Jason is official by band and label wise yall really just need to get over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akshat Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Green Day is a trio.Yes,Jason means a lot to the band.He is an awesome guitarist.I love him.Jason has an amazing tattoo.But if you are considering one aspect(him being signed to warner etc), consider the other aspect too that he is hardly there for the band's promotional events, he was absent even for cuatro's launch at x-games.If you people are saying that he is added as a contact on warner and stuff, then why s his name not in the offical members list on greenday.com?I have nothing against anyone who are saying he is official.Yes,He deserves to b an official member,looking at his contribution in AI,21cb and the trilogy.But I see green day as a trio.They were a trio,are a trio and will always be a trio.Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Benjamin Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Jesus fucking Christ. There's no way a non-member would sign the band's contract. People are so butthurt they added him as an official member. I love everything White Tim is posting in here. He's a legit dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Green Day is a trio.Yes,Jason means a lot to the band.He is an awesome guitarist.I love him.Jason has an amazing tattoo.But if you are considering one aspect(him being signed to warner etc), consider the other aspect too that he is hardly there for the band's promotional events, he was absent even for cuatro's launch at x-games.If you people are saying that he is added as a contact on warner and stuff, then why s his name not in the offical members list on greenday.com? I have nothing against anyone who are saying he is official.Yes,He deserves to b an official member,looking at his contribution in AI,21cb and the trilogy.But I see green day as a trio.They were a trio,are a trio and will always be a trio. Peace Jason wife just had a baby maybe Jason was busy dealing with that to be at x games ever thought of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akshat Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Jason wife just had a baby maybe Jason was busy dealing with that to be at x games ever thought of that? The baby arrived after x-games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 The baby arrived after x-gamesYeah a couple of days after Maybe she went in early? My sons mother started going in labor and was in the hospital almost a week before she gave birth pregnancies are tricky i can understand if that was a reason him not going Who knows And what other events? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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