Hermione Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Jason is all over Uno booklet... escp the cd book one Live members dont get listed with the group on album credits... he'd been listed as an additional musician in small letters... Just cause you dont think he is dont make him not offical I dont see the big deal is like if Billie & co wants to add Spice Girls Justin Biber and Ricky Martin to Green Day thats their power to do so I don't think there's anything wrong with saying his role is different to the other members though. Official or not he's still not playing the same full band member role that the other three are so I think it is fair to think of him as "less official" than the other three. Don't you agree his role is different to Billie Mike and Tre's? I don't think people are necessarily trying to downplay his contribution to or status in the band, they're just pointing out that he's not quite on the exact same level as the other members (through his own choice I'm sure). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I don't think there's anything wrong with saying his role is different to the other members though. Official or not he's still not playing the same full band member role that the other three are so I think it is fair to think of him as "less official" than the other three. Don't you agree his role is different to Billie Mike and Tre's? I don't think people are necessarily trying to downplay his contribution to or status in the band, they're just pointing out that he's not quite on the exact same level as the other members (through his own choice I'm sure). And how do anyone here know if Jason hasnt played the same amount of a role than Mike or Tre? Is there something I missed something that points to Jason not having invovlment? Again can anyone show me that a touring back up gets credited right next to the group instead of "additional" credit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Holly Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 But there is like 1 or 2 with Jason. I don't think he is either official or unofficial. I think he's stuck between both. He is more of a live member, but he isn't as official as Billie, Mike or Tré. That's how I feel about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDirnt Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Jason is all over Uno booklet... escp the cd book one Live members dont get listed with the group on album credits... he'd been listed as an additional musician in small letters... Just cause you dont think he is dont make him not offical I dont see the big deal is like if Billie & co wants to add Spice Girls Justin Biber and Ricky Martin to Green Day thats their power to do so What I'm saying is that he isn't as official as Mike, Tré and Billie are. Just because you think he is does make him official too. Many people have said they don't think he is as official too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 What I'm saying is that he isn't as official as Mike, Tré and Billie are That makes NO fucking sense at all NONE you are a member or not Tre hasn't been in the group as long as Billie or Mike is he not official? "Unofficial" members do not get added to band contracts they do not get get pictured all over an album artwork The founder of the group doesnt just say someone is the 4th member when its not true It's really not debatable Jason is an official member if theres a problem the solution is quite simple dont listen to em... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDirnt Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 That makes NO fucking sense at all NONE you are a member or not Tre hasn't been in the group as long as Billie or Mike is he not official? "Unofficial" members do not get added to band contracts they do not get get pictured all over an album artwork The founder of the group doesnt just say someone is the 4th member when its not true It's really not debatable Jason is an official member if theres a problem the solution is quite simple dont listen to em... First of all calm down. If you want to get away with it, c'mon go, but my opinion is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 First of all calm down. If you want to get away with it, c'mon go, but my opinion is the same. I'm very calm actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 And how do anyone here know if Jason hasnt played the same amount of a role than Mike or Tre? Is there something I missed something that points to Jason not having invovlment? Again can anyone show me that a touring back up gets credited right next to the group instead of "additional" credit? I'm talking about the way Green Day portrays themselves as a band. He's credited on the album alongside the others because on the album he did play the same role, he contributed to and played on the album like the others so he's credited the same as them. However if we're talking about not just the album but the band as a whole things are a little different. He's still much more in the background than the others. We see the other member's personalities and faces everywhere, we hear them talking about the music and the band in interviews, they're still more in the forefront at live shows and WAY more in the forefront in music videos. He's not presented as a 100% official member of the band the way the others are. That doesn't mean he isn't a member, he just isn't a member the same way the others are (again certainly by his own choice). It doesn't even matter , he does what he does with the band whatever label he's given. But I don't think there's anything wrong with recognizing the obvious differences between their roles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 But they may had waited until uno to drop to start doing press with Jason who knows with Billie's situation press and promo has kinda halted I just dont see Jasin being official being a big deal like some others has posted they're still Green Day still making good music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cori Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 But there is like 1 or 2 with Jason. I don't think he is either official or unofficial. I think he's stuck between both. He is more of a live member, but he isn't as official as Billie, Mike or Tré. Actually, if you count the picture of Quatro, he's in six pictures, three of which are just of him. Also, he recorded guitar tracks on Uno, Dos, and Tre, so he's not just a "live" member anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 But they may had waited until uno to drop to start doing press with Jason who knows with Billie's situation press and promo has kinda halted I just dont see Jasin being official being a big deal like some others has posted they're still Green Day still making good music Could be, I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens in the future. And I can agree with you on that , whether he's "official" or not definitely isn't a big deal. Interesting topic for discussion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdmiller01 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 But they may had waited until uno to drop to start doing press with Jason who knows with Billie's situation press and promo has kinda halted I just dont see Jasin being official being a big deal like some others has posted they're still Green Day still making good music thats funny you say that, because i was thinking the same thing. i was thinking they were going to wait for uno to b released and then do promos and stuff with jason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDirnt Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Actually, if you count the picture of Quatro, he's in six pictures, three of which are just of him. Also, he recorded guitar tracks on Uno, Dos, and Tre, so he's not just a "live" member anymore. A picture is not a photoshoot. A count all the pics in ¡Uno! booklet as one photoshoot. I'm talking about the way Green Day portrays themselves as a band. He's credited on the album alongside the others because on the album he did play the same role, he contributed to and played on the album like the others so he's credited the same as them. However if we're talking about not just the album but the band as a whole things are a little different. He's still much more in the background than the others. We see the other member's personalities and faces everywhere, we hear them talking about the music and the band in interviews, they're still more in the forefront at live shows and WAY more in the forefront in music videos. He's not presented as a 100% official member of the band the way the others are. That doesn't mean he isn't a member, he just isn't a member the same way the others are (again certainly by his own choice). It doesn't even matter , he does what he does with the band whatever label he's given. But I don't think there's anything wrong with recognizing the obvious differences between their roles. Thanks. This is what I was trying to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 A picture is not a photoshoot. A count all the pics in ¡Uno! booklet as one photoshoot. LMFAO those pictures are not one photoshoot.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Holly Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I think that all DannyDirnt means is that while Jason may be considered an official member in that he is a musician within the band, and very much involved in the record making and live performances, you can't really consider him to be quite as heavily involved as the other 3. He doesn't appear in many of the interviews and magazine articles, and he only really appears in the background of the music videos. For example, it's the trio riding across the desert on motorbikes in the KTDJ video, Jason isn't with them. While I do consider him to be the 4th and official member of Green Day in the technical sense of the word, in my own mind he isn't and he's somewhere between unofficial and official. There's also the fact that he wasn't present at all through much of the older eras, so if you read old articles or watch old live recordings and he isn't there, it's more difficult to think of him having the same involvement and influence as the other 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Again he became official only a year ago maybe the group was going to start unveiling it to public after Uno came out we dont know and yall stuck on interviews interview dont mean a goddamn thing Layne Stanley did only 2 interviews for Alice In Chains so I guess that makes him being the founder and lead singer an non main member of AIC by yalls so called standards... Again uno/dos/tre promo has been halted so in the future he may start doing more interviews we will have to see in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Again he became official only a year ago maybe the group was going to start unveiling it to public after Uno came out we dont know and yall stuck on interviews interview dont mean a goddamn thing Layne Stanley did only 2 interviews for Alice In Chains so I guess that makes him being the founder and lead singer an non main member of AIC by yalls so called standards... If Jason was the founder and lead singer of Green Day that comparison would apply but he's not. You can guess all you want about what they might have been going to do after Uno came out or what they might do in the future, but it hasn't happened yet. As yet he still isn't as involved as the others so while he is a member of the band, his role is still different to that of the other members. That's not a slight on him or a criticism, it's just an observation of the way the band is currently set up and presented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 If Jason was the founder and lead singer of Green Day that comparison would apply but he's not. You can guess all you want about what they might have been going to do after Uno came out or what they might do in the future, but it hasn't happened yet. As yet he still isn't as involved as the others so while he is a member of the band, his role is still different to that of the other members. That's not a slight on him or a criticism, it's just an observation of the way the band is currently set up and presented. I used Layne because people are using interviews to "prove" hes not official im saying interviews dont mean jack shit if people go by that standard than Layne isnt a member of AIC Kurt Cobain wasnt in alot of Nirvana photoshoots so by some peoples standards on here Kurt not a member of Nirvana... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I used Layne because people are using interviews to "prove" hes not official im saying interviews dont mean jack shit Interviews on their own maybe, but when you add in everything else not so much. I totally agree with you that he's equal to the other three in terms of the new albums, he's contributed to them just the same and is credited as such. But in terms of the band as a whole he isn't presented as equal to the others and doesn't involve himself equally. The people disagreeing with you in this discussion aren't even saying he isn't a member so I'm not sure why it bothers you so much, it's clear for anyone to see that he and the band still choose not to present him as an equal member so it's easy to see why he's viewed as "less official" than the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchmefade92 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 The main thing for a band is playing live shows and recording albums, and regarding this, he is an equal member. Who cares if he doesn't want to give interviews. For me, he's an official member of the band Green Day, but not of the trademark, the product presented in the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyphloyd Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 It has been said that Green Day had recorded songs for this new album. I found 2 links on youtube https://www.youtube....channel&list=UL https://www.youtube....channel&list=UL I can't tell who sings the songs btw, it surely isnt BJ but some think it's jason, your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asa. Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 It has been said that Green Day had recorded songs for this new album. I found 2 links on youtube I can't tell who sings the songs btw, it surely isnt BJ but some think it's jason, your thoughts? I don't think you need to post these in every thread. Seriously...the voice sounds nothing like anyone in Green Day anyway. Even Jason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyphloyd Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I don't think you need to post these in every thread. Seriously...the voice sounds nothing like anyone in Green Day anyway. Even Jason. I shared it on many places to be sure to have replies about this... I'm really not certain this shit is real, maybe some guy doing a cover and wrote this to get views... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwise Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I'd love it if he became more involved in the entire process, I think he's a really interesting guy and would love to see him in interviews, etc. I'd also like to know how far his musical contributions reach, if he actually wrote any guitar parts, or if he just recorded parts that Billie wrote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDirnt Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 It has been said that Green Day had recorded songs for this new album. I found 2 links on youtube https://www.youtube....channel&list=UL https://www.youtube....channel&list=UL I can't tell who sings the songs btw, it surely isnt BJ but some think it's jason, your thoughts? If I'm not mistaken, World vs World is an unreleased 39/Smooth song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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