CSI NY Episode to feature songs from the 3 new albums

[Cob]

That's what On Demand is for! (At least that's how we watch Grimm!)

Unfortunately I don't have cable D:

But I will be checking in to hear the tunes I haven't gotten a taste of yet.

I was expecting the exact same thing. It took me 4 listens to get into the studio recording because I was not too fond on the huge delay effect on the vocals. But still it is hard to deny that this is a beautiful song.

I'm slightly "annoyed" with that effect being on so many songs that we've heard so far. Mainly because I know it would sound really great without it. But I'm sure I can get used to it.

We never should have listened to the live version

It made the impact of hearing the final version slightly less powerful

I'm pretty sure they use a filter so his voice blends with the cleaner guitar sounds the album has. If they didn't do that his vocals would sound jarring and out of place in the mix.

Amy so great

maybe Amy the next Time of Your Life?

cause no drum, and i don't know there a bass or not..

I think I remember reading in Rolling Stone or something that the song has strings and light bass and drums towards the end.

[QueenOfSuburbia]

The Forgotten's gonna be in it ... Now I don't know if I should watch the episode. I mean it's the last song on Tre dammit.

Omg you're so right I didn't thought about that!!! I don't want to bear it anymore lol

[Blond-O-Sonic Shimmer Trap]

Aye I'm definitely hearing the exact same vocal melodies of Walking Alone and Shoplifter as well.

"Go together like a foot and a shoe" "May I have this last dance" and every other start of verse line.

"There's nothing wrong with stealing unless you're getting caught" "Amy don't you go"

This one is by far the laziest in terms of plagiarising their own stuff.

[QueenOfSuburbia]

I'm a little bit disappointed because of a few previews for Dos!. They did chance Billie's voice in "Amy" so much. The same in Wild one, Stray Heart, (Sweet 16). Sorry I really dislike this type

of music. Don't understand me wrong, i've been fan since 6 years and I really love Green Day

but these songs are too soft (and to be serious:Drama queen is . 12-year old

girlies might like this....)

Well I'm sure, Fuck time, Lady Cobra etc. will shape the true Dos!

I'm 20 and I love drama queen and the other songs lol

It's just another side of Green Day.

If I miss the episode where can I hear Amy??? Waiting for it since the live version I heard... Completely fell in love with it

[Cob]

Aye I'm definitely hearing the exact same vocal melodies of Walking Alone and Shoplifter as well.

"Go together like a foot and a shoe" "May I have this last dance" and every other start of verse line.

"There's nothing wrong with stealing unless you're getting caught" "Amy don't you go"

This one is by far the laziest in terms of plagiarising their own stuff.

Have you ever heard "Deadbeat Holiday" and "American Eulogy/Modern World"? Hahahahaha

But seriously sometimes you write something and the natural flow and melody just happens to be like something you've already written. Every artist has written something twice, this would be a problem if they were ripping it from someone else.

[Blond-O-Sonic Shimmer Trap]

Have you ever heard "Deadbeat Holiday" and "American Eulogy/Modern World"? Hahahahaha

But seriously sometimes you write something and the natural flow and melody just happens to be like something you've already written. Every artist has written something twice, this would be a problem if they were ripping it from someone else.

I think it's happened too many times now. I am kind of feeling that if they'd given these songs a bit more time to settle they'd have been able to work on ironing things out like this, and also the one too many choruses problem that I think a lot of them suffer from. Time will tell and obviously I won't be able to confirm it till Tre's been out for a few weeks, but I am starting to suspect quality control was a bit more lax on these songs.

However in their defence, maybe part of the reason for that is the way they wrote the previous album, I know they spent a lot of time with Butch Vig amalgamating a lot of different ideas and piecing them together to make 21st Century Breakdown, whereas with these songs it seems like each song stems from an idea, be it a mood, a chorus hook or a riff, and the same thought process hasn't quite gone into "how can we tighten this song up so that it's all killer no filler" in the same way.

[EJN]

I think it's happened too many times now. I am kind of feeling that if they'd given these songs a bit more time to settle they'd have been able to work on ironing things out like this, and also the one too many choruses problem that I think a lot of them suffer from. Time will tell and obviously I won't be able to confirm it till Tre's been out for a few weeks, but I am starting to suspect quality control was a bit more lax on these songs.

However in their defence, maybe part of the reason for that is the way they wrote the previous album, I know they spent a lot of time with Butch Vig amalgamating a lot of different ideas and piecing them together to make 21st Century Breakdown, whereas with these songs it seems like each song stems from an idea, be it a mood, a chorus hook or a riff, and the same thought process hasn't quite gone into "how can we tighten this song up so that it's all killer no filler" in the same way.

In terms of 'self-plagiarising' spending more time didn't help Breakdown avoid it much better. As pointed out Deadbeat Holiday and American Eulogy but also Church on Sunday and Static Age. Sometimes its probably unconscious and sometimes they probably realize it. I think that they rehearsed these songs enough times to iron out every detail. They are perfectionists. I can understand if you don't like it but also keep in mind that some of the songs with bits of melody being recycled are songs that they have probably not played or heard in a while (like Shoplifter an Suffocate) so that could be a big part of it. When you have written as many melodies as Billie it is hard to keep them all in the forefront of your mind.

Also the bias against recycled melodies intrigues me because nobody goes crazy when bands recycle progressions. There are only so many notes within a singers range. I don't necessarily like the recycling but I don't think its the end of the world unless entire song parts are being recycled. Just my opinion though.

I haven't heard Amy but am very excited for it. I am a bit put-off by the fact that there is apparently a heavy vocal effect on a song that is supposed to be naked but I am not gonna judge it til I hear it.

[Cob]

In terms of 'self-plagiarising' spending more time didn't help Breakdown avoid it much better. As pointed out Deadbeat Holiday and American Eulogy but also Church on Sunday and Static Age. Sometimes its probably unconscious and sometimes they probably realize it. I think that they rehearsed these songs enough times to iron out every detail. They are perfectionists. I can understand if you don't like it but also keep in mind that some of the songs with bits of melody being recycled are songs that they have probably not played or heard in a while (like Shoplifter an Suffocate) so that could be a big part of it. When you have written as many melodies as Billie it is hard to keep them all in the forefront of your mind.

Also the bias against recycled melodies intrigues me because nobody goes crazy when bands recycle progressions. There are only so many notes within a singers range. I don't necessarily like the recycling but I don't think its the end of the world unless entire song parts are being recycled. Just my opinion though.

I haven't heard Amy but am very excited for it. I am a bit put-off by the fact that there is apparently a heavy vocal effect on a song that is supposed to be naked but I am not gonna judge it til I hear it.

I wouldn't call it a "heavy vocal effect". I think people are just hearing the muffled YouTube quality-sound. There is a filter, but I think it's just been added to give the voice an older, more 60's sound that matches the guitar, drum, and bass sound.

[Sixtrix]

There is a filter, but I think it's just been added to give the voice an older, more 60's sound that matches the guitar, drum, and bass sound.

That actually made me see it in a completely different perspective, because it would make a lot of sense.

[Cob]

That actually made me see it in a completely different perspective, because it would make a lot of sense.

If it didn't have that filter BJ's vocals would either be to high or low in the mix. Filtering it is a way to get it in line, so to speak, with the sounds of the other levels. Remember to that a lot of the instruments were recording in big live rooms with lots of ambiance on this album, that would also explain the need for a filter.

[Asa.]

Now that I listen to it again, the bass is audible in the last 45 seconds or so.

[drugstore hooligan]

If they play the songs in full, tomorrow will be a good day . Looks like my plan of keeping Dos fresh turned to shit Oh well, new music

[Comrade]

I'm not going to lie, Amy is one of the most immediately boring, vapid and contrived sounding songs I've heard from Green Day. It's just 'meh' to be.

Stop When The Red Lights Flash sounds cooler, but it still feels like a bread and butter album track. I can't wait to get to grips with a full studio recording of that, but Amy, so far, is my Christian's Inferno of the trilogy.

[WrongWayToSalvation]

I think it's happened too many times now. I am kind of feeling that if they'd given these songs a bit more time to settle they'd have been able to work on ironing things out like this, and also the one too many choruses problem that I think a lot of them suffer from. Time will tell and obviously I won't be able to confirm it till Tre's been out for a few weeks, but I am starting to suspect quality control was a bit more lax on these songs.

However in their defence, maybe part of the reason for that is the way they wrote the previous album, I know they spent a lot of time with Butch Vig amalgamating a lot of different ideas and piecing them together to make 21st Century Breakdown, whereas with these songs it seems like each song stems from an idea, be it a mood, a chorus hook or a riff, and the same thought process hasn't quite gone into "how can we tighten this song up so that it's all killer no filler" in the same way.

It's ironic that you say "all killer no filler" considering the number of times the band has stated this in interviews. Either their not that good at critiquing themselves or they just have bloated egos, which to be honest I could kind of see based on Tre saying "this shit is fucking genius!" in that studio update video. Nothing I've really heard so far is of "genius" level, it's more along the lines of "gets by". And I'm not going to lower my expectations of them, because why should I? That just means their quality is declining. I hope iDos! and iTre! change my mind.

[Todd]

Amy sounds a bit empty...empty. Vocals are good, but the woah-oh-oh's are a bit choppy. Guitar/bass is too choppy also. wish there was more bass

[1039SweetChildren]

Amy sounds a bit empty...empty. Vocals are good, but the woah-oh-oh's are a bit choppy. Guitar/bass is too choppy also. wish there was more bass

Yeah definitely.. It's clear they were going for that more raw, demo-feel, but I think the song could have benefited from some more development.

[Heather.]

Amy sounds a bit empty...empty. Vocals are good, but the woah-oh-oh's are a bit choppy. Guitar/bass is too choppy also. wish there was more bass

I'll agree that I wish the "whoaaaa" was sung-through instead of "oh-oh-oh".

[Ritz]

Amy is really good, the lyrics and Billie's voice!

Can't wait for the studio version and I'll agree to everyone here who says it sounds empty. Yeah it does!

But I got goosebumps, it has got the effects!

[justcause]

I'm not going to lie, Amy is one of the most immediately boring, vapid and contrived sounding songs I've heard from Green Day. It's just 'meh' to be.

I guess everyone's response to stuff is different. The first time I heard 'Amy', it brought me to tears because it was so tender and simple, so personal, a soul-to-soul response ; people were writing all kinds of tributes in mostly the formal way, but Billie Joe took it to heart and gave his heart and he wrote this song. I loved the purity of the impulse that brought it - this is a lament, something that's a rarity in contemporary music, and shows Billie Joe's stamp as a true balladeer. The lyrics are so vivid and painful - the bloodstained shoes, the tattoos warding off evil, the whole sense of someone stumbling thru emotional chaos and in the midst of it, the appreciation of her place in music. 'I want you around' - it's that feeling about people in the larger music scene, or any scene, people who can seem peripheral and who you can take for granted, and then you realize how very essential they were. To me, it's a heartfelt, heartbreaking song.

[Freezing Melons]

I felt the same about Amy. First listen I'm like, "somethings missing" but the more i listen to it, the more perfect it becomes.

[Clockwise]

I certainly wouldn't call the vocal effect on Amy heavy, or too heavy. The vocals in Stop When The Red Lights Flash were more jarring to me at first. And I really think it sounds good though, but all of us are so fucking used to the live versions, that it's weird that these songs are so polished.

[Cob]

The part where he says "Amy don't you go" gave me chills. Its so good. Even with the filter nonsense people are talking about Billie's passion is just pulsating through. I think the change to ohs is a conscious effort because Amy would do that in some of her songs live. Overall I feel hes emulating her performance style but in a subtle, classy way. Now if only it was on an acoustic guitar...

[**nobodylikesyou**]

I guess everyone's response to stuff is different. The first time I heard 'Amy', it brought me to tears because it was so tender and simple, so personal, a soul-to-soul response ; people were writing all kinds of tributes in mostly the formal way, but Billie Joe took it to heart and gave his heart and he wrote this song. I loved the purity of the impulse that brought it - this is a lament, something that's a rarity in contemporary music, and shows Billie Joe's stamp as a true balladeer. The lyrics are so vivid and painful - the bloodstained shoes, the tattoos warding off evil, the whole sense of someone stumbling thru emotional chaos and in the midst of it, the appreciation of her place in music. 'I want you around' - it's that feeling about people in the larger music scene, or any scene, people who can seem peripheral and who you can take for granted, and then you realize how very essential they were. To me, it's a heartfelt, heartbreaking song.

I think Amy is a beautiful song and have loved it since I heard it and recorded it for everyone at the tiki bar last year. The lyrics are heartfelt for sure but the

music sounds to me like a complete copy of Pearl Jams Last Kiss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_sEtNrYlC4

[JellyTime]

I love Amy so much Usually I don't like slow songs and ballads, but Amy is just perfect for me.

[Homero]

Some people are just bashing a song completely (or a whole album) because they've heard a snippet and they didn't like it. I know, it's just opinions, but still.