Guest Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Beerjeezus said: I’m not an expert in demonology, so you’re probably right! I didn't know what either of these were and had to look them up LOL. It appears that @Slave To The Network is correct. I love how we always end up back on the "Billie as sex demon" theme. 🤣 If Billie wants to turn into a demon and have sex with me while I sleep, I give prior consent right now. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jengd Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 11 hours ago, BillieMyLove said: I didn't know what either of these were and had to look them up LOL. It appears that @Slave To The Network is correct. I love how we always end up back on the "Billie as sex demon" theme. 🤣 If Billie wants to turn into a demon and have sex with me while I sleep, I give prior consent right now. 🤣 I was going to make a comment about bisexual demons but think I’ll back off…. 😍😍😈😈 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 1 minute ago, jengd said: I was going to make a comment about bisexual demons but think I’ll back off…. 😍😍😈😈 Wait, I want to hear this now just because I am confused as to how it relates. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jengd Posted May 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 29, 2021 Well if an incubus is male and a succubus if female, both prone to preying on the opposite sex, and Billie is bi, where does that leave him? A biccubus? A Billiecubus? A Billiebicubbus? Am I turning into @That Dude 🤣🤣😘😘 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, jengd said: Well if an incubus is male and a succubus if female, both prone to preying on the opposite sex, and Billie is bi, where does that leave him? A biccubus? A Billiecubus? A Billiebicubbus? Am I turning into @That Dude 🤣🤣😘😘 Well, let me preface this by saying that I was literally today years old when I learned any of this exists, but my understanding is that the name is based on the sex of the demon. So Billie, being male, would still be an incubus regardless of his sexuality. In fact, I just started reading about this on Wikipedia and in some traditions an incubus is actually considered bisexual: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incubus Can't believe this is how I am spending my Saturday night.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Also the part about it seducing by playing the guitar outside the window. It's all starting to make sense. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 I googled it as well and apparently the names succubus and incubus come from Latin incubare which means lie on and succubare which means lie under, so I think gender is ascribed to demons based on whether they're a top or a bottom??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said: I googled it as well and apparently the names succubus and incubus come from Latin incubare which means lie on and succubare which means lie under, so I think gender is ascribed to demons based on whether they're a top or a bottom??? OK, that seems very different than what I read here, though I guess that makes sense to then assign genders that way if we are going to consider some very strict gender roles LOL. Feel like this could then vary a lot though regardless of whether the demon is gay/straight/bi/etc. Who gets to pick the position? The demon? The sleeping person? Is this a mutual decision? So many questions. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, BillieMyLove said: OK, that seems very different than what I read here, though I guess that makes sense to then assign genders that way if we are going to consider some very strict gender roles LOL. Feel like this could then vary a lot though regardless of whether the demon is gay/straight/bi/etc. Who gets to pick the position? The demon? The sleeping person? Is this a mutual decision? So many questions. 🤣 I think the problem is that that this lore comes from a time in history when fear of these demons was a way of maintaining social order and gender roles. I mean, there was no way you could scare men by the possibility that a twink demon visits them in their dream at that time, because obviously, a good Christian man wouldn't want to get involved with a male demon and a good Christian woman wouldn't want to peg a guy. The victims had to be innocent by very concrete standards. However, that also means that if you look past these morals, you can get seduced by a demon in any way you'd like to be seduced (which imo should be the point! if you're going to hell for this, it better be worth it) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 2 hours ago, jengd said: Well if an incubus is male and a succubus if female, both prone to preying on the opposite sex, and Billie is bi, where does that leave him? A biccubus? A Billiecubus? A Billiebicubbus? Am I turning into @That Dude 🤣🤣😘😘 I typically don't come over to this topic, now I see why 😁. Haven't had a Green Day related dream in a while, just the usual dinosaurs in air ducts. Maybe tonight, although I've currently been overdosing on Saw movies so probably not. It's going to be torture device kind of night. I can feel it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali89 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Who knew that my little dream would spark such an interesting discussion 🤣 You guys are entertaining as hell, in the best way possible of course 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave To The Network Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 I'm mainly familiar with Succubi and Incubi from D&D, but I do know that they're rooted in real world mythology, obviously (D&D takes a lot from mythos). @jengd I like Bicubus for the term. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jengd Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 I should not let the silliness take control, apologies @That Dude, hope I haven’t derailed your slumber! I love @Beerjeezus “twink demon” (do we all have the same picture in our minds….) and can imagine the Google stats people pondering the sudden upswing in searches for incubus and succubus, bet they won’t even be close to why! 😂😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 15 hours ago, Beerjeezus said: I think the problem is that that this lore comes from a time in history when fear of these demons was a way of maintaining social order and gender roles. I mean, there was no way you could scare men by the possibility that a twink demon visits them in their dream at that time, because obviously, a good Christian man wouldn't want to get involved with a male demon and a good Christian woman wouldn't want to peg a guy. The victims had to be innocent by very concrete standards. However, that also means that if you look past these morals, you can get seduced by a demon in any way you'd like to be seduced (which imo should be the point! if you're going to hell for this, it better be worth it) I agree with all of this. Obviously this was a way to enforce gender roles. I would say we still have a lot of ways of enforcing gender roles today, even if supernatural stuff is usually no longer involved LOL. You do know there are ways for a woman to be on top without pegging right? Because pegging was not even close to what I had in mind when I made that comment (though there is nothing wrong with that if that's what someone is into). 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 51 minutes ago, BillieMyLove said: I agree with al of this. Obviously this was a way to enforce gender roles. I would say we still have a lot of ways of enforcing gender roles today, even if supernatural stuff is usually no longer involved LOL. You do know there are ways for a woman to be on top without pegging right? Because pegging was not even close to what I had in mind when I made that comment (though there is nothing wrong with that if that's what someone is into). 🤣 I used pegging as an example because it seemed a reasonable guess that it was considered off-limits. I do not know what stance medieval Catholic church held on cowgirl and I do not have my copy of Maleus Maleficarum on me to consult. You don’t have to worry about my sex life lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 3 hours ago, Beerjeezus said: I used pegging as an example because it seemed a reasonable guess that it was considered off-limits. I do not know what stance medieval Catholic church held on cowgirl and I do not have my copy of Maleus Maleficarum on me to consult. You don’t have to worry about my sex life lol Believe me, I was trying to make a joke; I am not at all worried about your sex life LOL. 🤣 It seems like we both are on the same page about some of the idiocy of rigid gender roles, so I have no complaints. I am not a particularly religious person, but I have read the gospels, and I don't recall Jesus ever talking about sex. I do remember him talking about feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, healing the sick, welcoming the stranger, etc. All the rest of these stupid social rules were invented by people in power to keep themselves in power by oppressing others. 9 hours ago, Slave To The Network said: I'm mainly familiar with Succubi and Incubi from D&D, but I do know that they're rooted in real world mythology, obviously (D&D takes a lot from mythos). @jengd I like Bicubus for the term. I don't know much about D&D but many of my students play it. I am really curious now how sex demons play a role LOL. Also, the game seems pretty progressive, as do those who play it. I am honestly surprised there isn't a way of handling sex demons of more diverse sexualities and gender identities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave To The Network Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 How did I miss twink demon? Billie would absolutely be a twink demon! 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykeyway Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 I had a dream a while ago that Green Day was staying at a hotel near my house. I went to the park and for some reason, they were there. Billie took my phone and took selfies of us and we hung out the rest of the day. It felt so real that when I woke up, I checked my phone for the pictures and they weren’t there ☹️ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave To The Network Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 I had a dream last night with Billie that I think involved informal wine tasting. I can't remember very well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 I had a Billie sex dream last night and it was so good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykeyway Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 3 hours ago, BillieMyLove said: I had a Billie sex dream last night and it was so good! Wow I wish I had those kinds of dreams more often.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave To The Network Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 I had such a chaotic, crazy dream last night. It's way too long, but I will say the memorable parts were Billie almost dying, Billie dressed in bronze colored plate armor (it obscured his face, unfortunately) for a movie GD was making I guess, and Billie lounging above a shark carcass deep underwater (dressed in regular clothes, not SCUBA gear) while raising a champagne glass for a music video (?). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montclare Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 58 minutes ago, Slave To The Network said: Billie lounging above a shark carcass I just read this as "Billie lounging around in a shark carcass". I think that's a sign I should go to bed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jengd Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 So, finally had the dream we all want to have about Billie…… except it wasn’t Billie, it was George f*****g Clooney who I have never had a thing for……..wtf, do I have to wait another 15 years or so for the dream with Billie 😤😤😤😂😂😂 who will it by then!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykeyway Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 I had a dream where I met Tre Cool in Walmart (lol) and I asked for an autograph and he said no :(. I somehow tracked him down at a mall and I asked for a picture and he said “fine!” (This was part of the dream too) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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