Red Lights Flash Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 What I find very interesting is that none of the interviewers, after listening to the three albums or parts of the 2nd and 3rd, have not said that there were parts in it that were slightly boring or less powerful. Instead they are extremely enthusiastic about everything they got to listen to. Nobody who got to listen in advance said that about 21stCB either though. At least not as far as I can remember! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Nobody who got to listen in advance said that about 21stCB either though. At least not as far as I can remember! Yeah the critics who listened to 21st CB early were raving about it just as much as with these albums. You can't really judge by people's first impressions. But in this case I'm pretty sure they're right! (and I think they were right with 21st CB too) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDirnt Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Pretty sure Danny hadn't read the article when he posted. He just likes the song title and doesn't (didn't) know what it's about. No, I don't know. What's it about? I just read Little Boy Named Train and thought of a funny song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Duck Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Yeah, if you're one of the first however many people it was to listen to the trilogy you're not going to write an article about how shit the songs were. I'm pretty sure you'd probably be blacklisted by Warner if you did that! Previews of albums are nearly always positive! Hell, I bet even NME will say that the albums sound great but when it comes time to review them they'll give the albums a low score, probably because the albums don't sound hipster enough for their liking or there's no song featuring Noel Gallagher on any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sara_gd Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 But Billboard says it's on Dos... Which one do we believe? @claudiotelehit said that it's on Tre also (via direct message), but I suppose Billboard is more reliable. The important thing is that it's in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastard of 1967 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Yeah the critics who listened to 21st CB early were raving about it just as much as with these albums. You can't really judge by people's first impressions. But in this case I'm pretty sure they're right! (and I think they were right with 21st CB too) I recall the 21stCB reviews -- even the early ones -- as being much more lukewarm towards it. Much different this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixtrix Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I recall the 21stCB reviews -- even the early ones -- as being much more lukewarm towards it. Much different this time. Actually, I remember even Billie Joe being a bit lukewarm about it at times. It could be me, but when explaining the process of writing and recording 21stCB he ended his sentences quite often with words like "I guess" which sounds kind of like there was some doubt hanging around caused by the high pressure of the aftermath of AI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie, get your gun Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 But Billboard says it's on Dos... Which one do we believe? In the end... I don't know. I was so happy that they said it was on ¡TRÉ! but if it's on ¡DOS! it's better 'cause we'll hear it sooner. I'm loving the fact that everybody who has already listened to this trilogoy is super happy with how it turned out to be. Seems like these three albums are way more amazing than we can actually imagine right now.. Me too, it's great that so far the opinions were super positive. But I'm SO jealous that some people already listened to the 3 records and we haven't even listened one yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cris. Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Nobody who got to listen in advance said that about 21stCB either though. At least not as far as I can remember! That's because 21stCB wasn't boring or less powerful. It was a great album too! (With the exception of Restless Heart Syndrome, god I don't like that song ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Lights Flash Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Actually, I remember even Billie Joe being a bit lukewarm about it at times. It could be me, but when explaining the process of writing and recording 21stCB he ended his sentences quite often with words like "I guess" which sounds kind of like there was some doubt hanging around caused by the high pressure of the aftermath of AI Exactly, in one of the first articles that were published, it said that Billie Joe "still wasn't really sure" about Horseshoes and Handgrenades. And they were also talking about how he had a very hard time writing Restless Heart Syndrome because he never really felt like working on that song, but Butch Vig convinced him to try it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDirnt Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 That's because 21stCB wasn't boring or less powerful. It was a great album too! (With the exception of Restless Heart Syndrome, god I don't like that song ) I like RHS. Sounds extremely overproduced, though. Now, with all these comments, I see this trilogy will be much better than 21CB (which is my least fav album by GD). After this I can't see how other people say it was the same reaction as now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellista Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Actually, I remember even Billie Joe being a bit lukewarm about it at times. It could be me, but when explaining the process of writing and recording 21stCB he ended his sentences quite often with words like "I guess" which sounds kind of like there was some doubt hanging around caused by the high pressure of the aftermath of AI Exactly, in one of the first articles that were published, it said that Billie Joe "still wasn't really sure" about Horseshoes and Handgrenades. And they were also talking about how he had a very hard time writing Restless Heart Syndrome because he never really felt like working on that song, but Butch Vig convinced him to try it anyway. I have been thinking this for awhile now and I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. I swear I remember Tre saying in multiple interviews "This album is the most like Green Day than any other" (or something like that). Since he said that more than once it makes me get think that they were 'selling' the album to themselves . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cris. Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Exactly, in one of the first articles that were published, it said that Billie Joe "still wasn't really sure" about Horseshoes and Handgrenades. And they were also talking about how he had a very hard time writing Restless Heart Syndrome because he never really felt like working on that song, but Butch Vig convinced him to try it anyway. Well that explains why that song was so wrong. It should have never been in the album in the first place . It really is my least favorite Green Day song. But I think everyone is too hard on that album, I really really loved it. /Off topic chat off/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pieterv Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I like RHS. Sounds extremely overproduced, though. RHS is one of the songs where changing Billie's vocals so much is justified imo, it makes him sound more distant and weak and actually adds to the emotion being evoked already instead of working against it in the angry songs. The effect should have been toned down at the end though imo, when his voice becomes more powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solongfromthestars Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I know nobody said this exactly, but Green Day did not hate 21st Century Breakdown. Billie said they'd "made the album of their lives" and was very proud of it. I know the stuff about him being hospitalized is bullshit but he still had a hard time writing it, whereas with these albums they've been able to let go of that stuff. So of course their attitudes would have been less "yaaay!" while recording it. I'm sure these were way more fun to record and maybe Green Day do like them better - or not - but no they didn't dislike 21CB. Off topic rant over (how did 21CB manage to make its way into this thread? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Android Jesus Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I like the RHS lyrics, the sound is not that good, but it's acceptable, they always include that kind of quiet songs, at the end it sounds good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritz Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Please get some World Tour info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gd86arg Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Please, not in Rock In Rio Buenos Aires! Just a Green Day's stadium date.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pucky Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I have been thinking this for awhile now and I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. I swear I remember Tre saying in multiple interviews "This album is the most like Green Day than any other" (or something like that). Since he said that more than once it makes me get think that they were 'selling' the album to themselves . I also think that 21CB was their weakest album, and I agree with the idea that even themselves weren't really sure about it. But every band has one or two albums less inspired and we are lucky that (in my opinion), 21CB is the only album that doesn't reaches an excellent mark (though it's still good). Also, their current energy, their mind state towards the trilogy and the trilogy itself is a result of the mistakes of 21CB. They needed to be lost for a while: not knowing what to do after the huuuge succes of AI, trying to repeat the American Idiot formula; they needed to realize how uninspired were songs like KYE, RHS or 21 guns in order to awake and become again the strong, alive and self-confident band they are right now. If they hadn't gone through the mental process of making 21CB and all that, they would have probably released an "ok" album. Not bad, but not as good as AI or the previous ones. After an album like AI, which was such a huge impact, any band would be lost and we are lucky enough to say that GD could get over it and come back in such a good way (even though they had to go through the """"failure"""" of 21CB). They say that "the night is darker just before the dawn". Well, 21CB was the darkest hour, but now it's dawn time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sara_gd Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 So now an opinion from a 21stCB lover (besides the over production and certain songs like KYE or Christian's Inferno). I think that if they finally put RHS and Horseshoes and Hangrenades into the album is because they wanted to. Even if Butch Vig was the one that encouraged Billie Joe to finish RHS (I didn't know that, btw), I really don't think that they would have put it out if they weren't sure of it. What I was thinking when I saw all these comments was this thing that Billie Joe always says: that when something makes him afraid, it's the sign that he should go for it. I think RHS is a really deep song, and of course it must have been difficult to write, and to perform (also because of the falsetto), but I don't see where that means that they don't like the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDirnt Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 So now an opinion from a 21stCB lover (besides the over production and certain songs like KYE or Christian's Inferno). I think that if they finally put RHS and Horseshoes and Hangrenades into the album is because they wanted to. Even if Butch Vig was the one that encouraged Billie Joe to finish RHS (I didn't know that, btw), I really don't think that they would have put it out if they weren't sure of it. What I was thinking when I saw all these comments was this thing that Billie Joe always says: that when something makes him afraid, it's the sign that he should go for it. I think RHS is a really deep song, and of course it must have been difficult to write, and to perform (also because of the falsetto), but I don't see where that means that they don't like the song. In fact, RHS is one of my favorite songs in the album. They only performed it once live and I loved it. It would be amazing for me if they performed it more often in the trilogy era. But what I'd like is that they perform all the songs in the albums like they did for AI. It's a shame that some great songs in other albums didn't get good quality recordings of performances, and I don't want that to happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie, get your gun Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Please, not in Rock In Rio Buenos Aires! Just a Green Day's stadium date.... THIS!THIS!THIS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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