solongfromthestars Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 just a thought; had we never heard AI I don't think people would find 21CB a let down, because there would no bar set I think 21CB isn't bad maybe it's average and it's just because AI was so extremly epic that 21CB seems like a let down in comparison. (or maybe this is just my point of view) I agree. If it'd been the first concept album nobody would have complained about that either. I've already said it once but I loved 21CB. Definitely one of my favourite albums. Sure there's songs I'm not crazy about on there but most of it is great, especially listened to all the way through. And don't get me started on the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elena Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 imo on 21CB are amazing songs that i just love when i listen to them seperately...and then it doesn't sound very over-produced, butb when you listen to the whole thing it does sound over-produced, though it's still a great album, just not really one of my faves musically....lyrically it's one of my favorites of all time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDirnt Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Yeah,same as Elena<3. What I don't like about the piano is that piano and all the things they included aren't rock instruments,so it sounds more pop-like,and although I like pop,I'd like that 21CB was more rock and punk and less pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elena Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Yeah,same as Elena<3. What I don't like about the piano is that piano and all the things they included aren't rock instruments,so it sounds more pop-like,and although I like pop,I'd like that 21CB was more rock and punk and less pop. i have to say i actually loved the piano ...and i wish they wouldn't have put away the piano intro of 21st Century Breakdown and also would have let a bit more from the original lyrics...although i can totally understand why they changed that all: they have the Song Of the Century before and it would be odd if they'd put a piano intro on the next song ...it just had to start a bit more rocking i partly agree with the pop thing...though 21 Guns or iViva la Gloria! count to my faves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDirnt Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 21 Guns is the best of the whole album imo.What I really didn't like was the intros,like Song of the Century,the ultra slow aprt before real 21 Guns starts, the small part before EJN...etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Now Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 The 21st Century Breakdown demo was so much better then the one on the album, the lyrics made more sense, and the piano was amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley! Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 21 Guns is the best of the whole album imo.What I really didn't like was the intros,like Song of the Century,the ultra slow aprt before real 21 Guns starts, the small part before EJN...etc I like the intros, it builds up the excitement/anticipation. Especially when they are played live. And I think song of the century did a really good job of setting the mood for the album. It's not a song I listen to often, but I don't think 21st CB wouldn't be the same without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elena Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 21 Guns is the best of the whole album imo.What I really didn't like was the intros,like Song of the Century,the ultra slow aprt before real 21 Guns starts, the small part before EJN...etc hm...yeah i see what you mean...imo those parts are the parts who also (with some other things) make you think the record is over-produced, but when you listen to the songs seperately, i just love those intros...also: imo it just connects the songs a bit more...like Song Of The Century has the same melody as the beginning of American Eulogy, good, you could say it's enough when it's on the record once, but for me it somehown connects everything... ..and well, i understand you opinion about the beginning of EJN...and cos there are more of those beginnings (also like in 21 Guns etc) i think it's one of the reasons why it sounds so over-produced, though when you just listen to EJN seperately i like the intro (and also 21 Guns etc) The 21st Century Breakdown demo was so much better then the one on the album, the lyrics made more sense, and the piano was amazing. yeah i agree...i love the song as it's on the album, the lyrics are still just amazing and the melody, too, but the demo was just better...though i can understand why they cut the piano intro...i think they just wanted something more rocking after somethig so slow, silent, non-punk start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanity Loan Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Don't we have a thread to talk about 21CB? If you guys could keep it in there that'd be awesome. Let's have this thread be about the new albums please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDirnt Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I just don't like listening to a 21CB song in my faves playlist abd then I have to stand a boring 10 secs intro before actually hearing the song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 The thing is though, when 21st CB first came out I don't remember many people on here saying it was overproduced, and music magazines were giving it rave 5/5 reviews with some even saying it was better than American Idiot. But then it was promoted really badly and had bad/boring single choices and mostly mediocre videos, and the band basically abandoned it as soon as the musical came out only a few months after the album was released. When it first came out fans and critics loved it (I mean it won the Best Rock Album Grammy!), and I think if it'd had better singles and videos and promotion it really could've made a lasting impact and wouldn't be looked back on so negatively. I love it, it's my favourite Green Day album. From what we've heard I have a sneaking suspicion the new 3 might overtake it though (not that I have overly optimistic expectations or anything ). Really hope it's gonna have better promotion and single choices too. Oops sorry Matt didn't see your reply. On with talking about the new albums then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestboundSign! Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Don't we have a thread to talk about 21CB? If you guys could keep it in there that'd be awesome. Let's have this thread be about the new albums please This. I mean, not that the discussions aren't interesting. It's just a little annoying to visit this thread every now and then to find out if there's something new about the triology and then you come upon a conversation about something that just doesn't belong here. I don't even know if there was news after I was able to read about them in here for the last time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solongfromthestars Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Yep, you come in here and at best get a conversation about 21CB... at worst get Lord of the Rings, Pokemon and/or Star Wars. And usually the 21CB part has already been discussed at least twice before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanity Loan Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Oops sorry Matt didn't see your reply. On with talking about the new albums then No worries. Your post is a great way to wrap it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elena Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 This. I mean, not that the discussions aren't interesting. It's just a little annoying to visit this thread every now and then to find out if there's something new about the triology and then you come upon a conversation about something that just doesn't belong here. I don't even know if there was news after I was able to read about them in here for the last time well, no there wasn't any news, otherwise we'd talk about that ...but i agree Yep, you come in here and at best get a conversation about 21CB... at worst get Lord of the Rings, Pokemon and/or Star Wars. And usually the 21CB part has already been discussed at least twice before. no, the other way round: at best get a convo about LOTR, Pokemon and/or Star Wars and at worst get one about 21CB ...kay, now i better stop posting spam in here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanity Loan Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I just don't like listening to a 21CB song in my faves playlist abd then I have to stand a boring 10 secs intro before actually hearing the song Please, no more 21CB. I wasn't joking. ...kay, now i better stop posting spam in here You better, yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDirnt Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Please, no more 21CB. I wasn't joking.Sorry,you posted while I was typing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJedi Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 when do you think we will get more news about the albums? it's been so quiet.. i know it's just 12 days but still x) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanity Loan Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I would hope this week. But I wouldnt be surprised if we're in the dark until July or August Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJedi Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I would hope this week. But I wouldnt be surprised if we're in the dark until July or August yeah.. i wouldnt be surprised either, i really hope it wont be totally quiet .. i loved the studio videos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizziebix Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I hope we do get more info, but it's entirely possible we'll only get new show dates (whenever those are decided) and nothing more on the albums. Always the pessimist on this subject. Not really sure why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan86 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 It's also possible that if a new video comes this week that it won't contain any new news. Most of the videos are very vague. The press release gave away everything really 3 albums and 3 release dates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatserKinx Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Always the pessimist on this subject. Not really sure why. If you're a pessimist then you're never let down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizziebix Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 If you're a pessimist then you're never let down Good point! And I'm always pleasantly surprised! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJedi Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I hope we do get more info, but it's entirely possible we'll only get new show dates (whenever those are decided) and nothing more on the albums. Always the pessimist on this subject. Not really sure why. I'm quite happy as long as we get more tour dates soon ^^ It's also possible that if a new video comes this week that it won't contain any new news. The press release gave away everything really 3 albums and 3 release dates. yeah, but would be fun with interviews and stuff, and to hear something about the songs.. x) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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