The Trilogy Albums: ¡Uno!, ¡Dos!, and ¡Tré!

[M1KEY]

Even tho we know it's Mike, I wonder if we'll have to wait two months for the cover of "¡Dos!"? Hope not... I'm craving more updates... more previews... more more more!!

[bjrules]

I'm just desperate for a confirmed tracklist, and I'm looking forward to when the interviews about the albums start.

[DannyDirnt]

I'm not doubting the boys and how much material they have, but from a marketing perspective, it's not logical to do (for instance) 17 on Uno, 12 on Dos, and 7 on Tre. Consumers would think they're getting screwed and would not want to buy Tre as much. Spread all the material out as equally as possible. I think it's safe to assume they have at least 30 songs they're going to put out. So minimum 10 per album. I think 40 is quite a bit of material and is too much so around the mid-30's mark sounds good. Which means around 12 tracks per album, which is what we've seen so far on the boards in the videos.

But that's just my opinion and I think it just makes sense from a marketing standpoint on Warner's end.

We still don't really know how much material they have. And we haven't seen all the song titles. Why is everyone assuming there are around 30 songs? And article said it, but I don't think even Green Day themselves knew it certainly at that time. I think it's perfectly possible that there are 17 songs in Uno, and that doesn't have to mean Dos and Tré will have that many less.

[sara_gd]

I don't think it matters how many songs there are in each album, if they're good, that's it. Before 21stCB they said they had a ton of songs, but they picked the best ones, mixed them or whatever, and they put out a great album. So yeah, quality over quantity. I think it's great that they're releasing three albums if the material is good, and I'm sure it is if they're putting it out.

And I like this "fresh" ideas for the songs, that they're not as deep as AI and 21stCB, but I would also like that they have some of those albums. A few political songs, or some 8 minutes songs.

[PaulS]

I'm going to get beat up for this, but I feel more apprehension when I think about these albums than excitement. Sure, a trilogy is cool and all, but what ever happened to quality, not quantity? I feel like they don't know how to top themselves at this point, so they're just trying to create this grandiose event, as opposed to just put out an album the old school way. Trust me, I'm crossing my fingers for three amazing albums, but I think we'll be lucky if we get more than 15 stellar tracks.

It's almost certainly true that the trilogy is an attempt to do something purposefully 'different' from before. If this were the 90s, and they had the same volume of material, I think we'd be getting Nimrod. Individually, there is little chance of any of these new records being Green Day's best. None of them are going to be as precisely honed as American Idiot, certainly. They're throwing (nearly) everything at the wall to see what sticks, which is going to have consequences for the final product.

That said, I prefer to think of it this way: we're getting 30+ songs. Plausibly, a handful of them are going to be mediocre. Maybe one or two you're really not going to like. That's okay. Because when all is said and done, you're going to be getting 15 superb tracks. Another 6 or 7 you like a lot. As a cohesive statement, the trilogy is going to fall down. As a final count of memorable Green Day songs, I think we're going to be even more blessed than usual.

Is it better to release albums that are as 'perfect' as you can make them? Albums that will still feel momentous in decades to come? Maybe. But Green Day have already done that. They've done their rock operas, and their perfect pop-punk records like Dookie. They've sung about religion, war and fundamentalism. They've written odes to a lost generation and to lost loves. Now is their time to fuck and party. We don't need another 21st Century Breakdown, because we already have 21st Century Breakdown. Not every album The Clash put out was London Calling, but Sandinista! didn't somehow take away from those big records. If anything, it enhanced them because it showed The Clash as a band of versatility and invention, not repetition.

This is Green Day's Sandinista!, and I couldn't be more excited.

[DannyDirnt]

Oh, long songs are ok but please no more political songs. They aren't that relatable and I don't like politics.

[bluefloyd.94]

I love Stray Heart, but it just sounds so much like Town Called Malice by The Jam and I can't get that out of my head.

actually a Town Called Malice was a rip-off of a Motown bassline

[jacknovella]

Yeah I'm not worried about Green Day putting out loads of mediocre songs for money - c'mon, it's Green Day. Like others have said, I'm sure they wouldn't put the stuff out if they didn't believe these songs were worthy and all they could be. I really can't wait for these albums to come out and for the band to start touring and doing interviews, because I almost feel like this is what should've happened after American Idiot.

Don't get me wrong, I loved 21st Century Breakdown - I'm just glad the guys are out of that zone where they feel they need to follow something as successful as AI. It seems like they're in their element now and I for one can't wait to hear the results

[Disapperingirl]

I've never heard that line before. But reading it here for the first time, makes me think it means she's old enough to menstruate?

Well you can see it like that, in the most close to the words and "concrete" way. I remember there has been a discussion about that in the Q&A thread...

Because you can also interpret the line in a more metaphorical way, and personally it's the first one that came to my mind when I first heard the song.

Like, she's old enough to go out, see and live in the real world where you don't have protection anymore but you have to face difficulties on your own...where nothing's easy and nothing's free, but it's so easy to get hurt, feel pain, and so to "bleed"...

[WhatserKinx]

^I must admit that's how I have always seen that line. If you take the line on it's own then yes it seems as if it's saying she's old enough to menstruate but collectively with other lines such as "her life is now unfolding" it's saying she's making her own mistakes- and she's taking the consequences.

[DannyDirnt]

Well you can see it like that, in the most close to the words and "concrete" way. I remember there has been a discussion about that in the Q&A thread...

Because you can also interpret the line in a more metaphorical way, and personally it's the first one that came to my mind when I first heard the song.

Like, she's old enough to go out, see and live in the real world where you don't have protection anymore but you have to face difficulties on your own...where nothing's easy and nothing's free, but it's so easy to get hurt, feel pain, and so to "bleed"...

I understood it that way too. I'll wait to judge though, I haven't listened to Drama Queen and now that it's gonna be in the trilogy I won't till it's released. I already know 3 songs, I don't want to spoil more.

[TaylorKlinke]

I'm just desperate for a confirmed tracklist, and I'm looking forward to when the interviews about the albums start.

Can't wait for them to perform on Letterman hahaha...and see what Tre does this time

[solongfromthestars]

"Old enough to bleed now" made me think old enough to have sex. I guess it could mean any of those things, we'll have to wait and see. The song could even be completely different now.

I like the live version of Drama Queen that we've heard although I can't say that I'm really excited or happy to see it on there. But I'm not going to judge anything until I've heard the whole thing as a studio version.

[BJWolf]

I'm super excited to get three albums and I will definately buy them all and listen and hopefully enjoy every song. However, like some other people, I am really worried about all of this. It all feels so foxboro hottubs. Like why cant they just release a hottubs album if they are going to make music like the hottubs? I want Green Day. I want punk. I want rock. I dont want 60s retro stuff. Also, im really worried about the quality. As others have pointed out they would write tons of songs for each album but only 12 or 13 would make the final cut. Dont get me wrong, I LOVE Green Day and they have been my favorite band for 8 years since I was 10. But I'm really concerned about the album being a bunch of 60s retro stuff (the dumb, goofy titles for all the albums and half the songs dont ease my anxiety) and/or most of the songs being mediocre stuff that wouldnt normally make a Green Day album. Again I adore Green Day and I know I will love a lot of the music, I'm just worried its not gonna live up to my expectations and that its not gonna sound like the Green Day I grew up with and still love.

[TaylorKlinke]

I think everyone should stop doubting the rock god's decision to release 3 albums, they wouldn't do it if it wasn't going to be epic Just have trust.

[Elena]

We still don't really know how much material they have. And we haven't seen all the song titles. Why is everyone assuming there are around 30 songs? And article said it, but I don't think even Green Day themselves knew it certainly at that time. I think it's perfectly possible that there are 17 songs in Uno, and that doesn't have to mean Dos and Tré will have that many less.

i think Green Day knew it really well ...you know, we even got a hint in their studio update vid 2/29 where all three members had the crossed out eyes, so i guess even there they knew how the cover would look like...in other vids we've seen those boards on the backround and in one vid Billie made a three with his hand, so they already knew that they'd release three albums...then i guess they already knew which songs they'd release, at least roughly ;D ...and well, we've seen the whole board in past vids and there were only about 10-14 songs on each ...sure there might be more songs and those might not be the complete lists of songs, but it's pretty possible and the reason why everyone is assuming it'll be about 10-14 songs

...but yeah if iUNO! has 17 songs, i also highly doubt that the other albums have less songs on them ;D

Well you can see it like that, in the most close to the words and "concrete" way. I remember there has been a discussion about that in the Q&A thread...

Because you can also interpret the line in a more metaphorical way, and personally it's the first one that came to my mind when I first heard the song.

Like, she's old enough to go out, see and live in the real world where you don't have protection anymore but you have to face difficulties on your own...where nothing's easy and nothing's free, but it's so easy to get hurt, feel pain, and so to "bleed"...

i've always seen it as a mix of both somehow

[WhatserKinx]

I personally love the 60's retro garage rock sound... But that's maybe because of musical influences from my dad.

[Disapperingirl]

i've always seen it as a mix of both somehow

Yep well a mix is always the best solution, but the greatest thing is that Green Day don't give you "the right interpretation", so you're free to choose the one you prefer, and to like or not the song

[Elena]

Yep well a mix is always the best solution, but the greatest thing is that Green Day don't give you "the right interpretation", so you're free to choose the one you prefer, and to like or not the song

yeah i agree, i love it how you can interpretate so much into most of their songs and everything seems to be right

[DannyDirnt]

I'm super excited to get three albums and I will definately buy them all and listen and hopefully enjoy every song. However, like some other people, I am really worried about all of this. It all feels so foxboro hottubs. Like why cant they just release a hottubs album if they are going to make music like the hottubs? I want Green Day. I want punk. I want rock. I dont want 60s retro stuff. Also, im really worried about the quality. As others have pointed out they would write tons of songs for each album but only 12 or 13 would make the final cut. Dont get me wrong, I LOVE Green Day and they have been my favorite band for 8 years since I was 10. But I'm really concerned about the album being a bunch of 60s retro stuff (the dumb, goofy titles for all the albums and half the songs dont ease my anxiety) and/or most of the songs being mediocre stuff that wouldnt normally make a Green Day album. Again I adore Green Day and I know I will love a lot of the music, I'm just worried its not gonna live up to my expectations and that its not gonna sound like the Green Day I grew up with and still love.

I like that. I like all albums from Green Day and I'm liking the trilogy's sounds so far.

[solongfromthestars]

Aren't loads of the old titles kind of goofy, though? Chump, Longview, Jackass, Dominated Love Slave, Fuck off and Die, Ha Ha You're Dead... the list goes on.

I'm not saying it's not a valid point or that I don't understand why people are worried, it's just that particular thing, well, those titles all jump out at me there. I don't think we can really judge anything by the titles we've seen.

[DannyDirnt]

I prefer random funny titles. I prefer funny songs over serious ones mostly. For me, Green Day was too serious in AI and 21CB.

[Disapperingirl]

I'm super excited to get three albums and I will definately buy them all and listen and hopefully enjoy every song. However, like some other people, I am really worried about all of this. It all feels so foxboro hottubs. Like why cant they just release a hottubs album if they are going to make music like the hottubs? I want Green Day. I want punk. I want rock. I dont want 60s retro stuff. (...) I'm just worried its not gonna live up to my expectations and that its not gonna sound like the Green Day I grew up with and still love.

Ok I get your worries, and this change of music style surely surprised most of us, in a positive or negative way. But still, Green Day have never been just punk, or just rock, we've learned how allergic they are to labels and how much they love to experiment and dare- not only in the last years with AI and 21stCB, but in the 90s too.

In the end Green Day is The Foxboro Hot Tubs because the people behind them are the same, so that music, that vibe and style kind of retro that we always associated with the Foxboros have always been inside the three members of Green Day too. And maybe now they feel that so much, as their style now, as the music style of this era, that they decided to use it for Green Day albums, kind of combining the two bands.

Green Day are a band that grows, that changes and is not afraid of doing so, so sorry but I see it "wrong" to say that you want the band "I grew up with and still love"...it's exactly what Billie was trying to tell us not to do, "To reminisce is to die", right? Ok, we had great times with them, with their music, we didn't like some choices, we loved them for others, but now they're saying it's a brand new thing and you should all stand with us, because we fucking love it and it's gonna be fucking awesome, one more time.

[WalkingContradictionPL]

I personally love the 60's retro garage rock sound... But that's maybe because of musical influences from my dad.

I love Foxboro and the 60's sound also thanks to my dad. I was brought up with The Beatles songs and many Polish bands playing this kind of music. It's really nice to sit togehter and listen to music together, so why not to listen together Green Day now?

And I treat Stop Drop and Roll not as a Foxboro record, but as a Green Day record. That's still the same people who made Dookie, AI and Foxboro. For me it's just another name for these guys (and another type of package for CD ).

Oh, long songs are ok but please no more political songs. They aren't that relatable and I don't like politics.

Politics is quite interesting. And when politiacal songs critisise politicians which I really don't like, it's really superb. And when songs are about society... But we need also funny and party songs. That's right/

[Elena]

Ok I get your worries, and this change of music style surely surprised most of us, in a positive or negative way. But still, Green Day have never been just punk, or just rock, we've learned how allergic they are to labels and how much they love to experiment and dare- not only in the last years with AI and 21stCB, but in the 90s too.

In the end Green Day is The Foxboro Hot Tubs because the people behind them are the same, so that music, that vibe and style kind of retro that we always associated with the Foxboros have always been inside the three members of Green Day too. And maybe now they feel that so much, as their style now, as the music style of this era, that they decided to use it for Green Day albums, kind of combining the two bands.

Green Day are a band that grows, that changes and is not afraid of doing so, so sorry but I see it "wrong" to say that you want the band "I grew up with and still love"...it's exactly what Billie was trying to tell us not to do, "To reminisce is to die", right? Ok, we had great times with them, with their music, we didn't like some choices, we loved them for others, but now they're saying it's a brand new thing and you should all stand with us, because we fucking love it and it's gonna be fucking awesome, one more time.

wow how well said

...actually i always loved Green Day for NOT doing the same over and over again, for trying out something new...i've loved how they had serious songs on e.g. AI and 21CB cos to me they're very important and help me, but i also love their fun songs...and we can't really tell whether this trilogy is really just all about fun, maybe there's something very serious is it, too...like e.g. you can see Carpe Diem just as this party song that you should enjoy the moment and all but you can also see it more serious and it really actually helps with your problems, cos (at least me) it tells you that you just should seize the moment and have fun and together with the "To reminisce is to die" it tells you that you shouldn't looks back too much and just think about the moment and enjoy it...to me it's kinda an as serious as the songs before song just in a happier way...