Sixtrix Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Jesus Christ those are a lot of buttons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amydc Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 For some reason, I'm still not excited at all for these albums. I don't really know why, but the fact that we'll have to pay for three albums annoys me. The whole concept didn't convince me so far... You gotta be kidding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixtrix Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 For some reason, I'm still not excited at all for these albums. I don't really know why, but the fact that we'll have to pay for three albums annoys me. The whole concept didn't convince me so far... It would be crazy if they would give their albums away for free. If the money is a big issue for you, then you can eventually download the songs somewhere for free. So I don't entirely understand your problem with the concept of the trilogy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather. Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Someone brought up the song "Dreamcatcher"... if that one winds up on any of the albums I will die happy. I like everything I've heard from the secret shows, and I'm sure I won't be too disappointed, but I hope they haven't shelved that song, I think it's a real gem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastard of 1967 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Do you guys think we'll be getting fuck time? If we don't see it on one of the albums, I think we might get it as a B-side. Billie's on record as saying it's a Green Day song now, they played snippets of it occasionally on the last tour, and the tea leaves suggest they've been itching to track a proper studio version of it. If they did use some of their time in Jingletown to fuck around with it at all, I'd think the chances would be pretty good that they'll get it to us in some form. Hell, I'd take it as a (nudge nudge wink wink) leak! Also hoping they did a studio version of Cigs & Vals, that song is way too good to omit from the trilogy now that they've finally 'fessed up to having it in their arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollard_11 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Yeah, I have to be grateful that they are releaseing three albums and I must not criticize them for something I'm still not sure of because Green Day is one of the best bands ever and I have to praise everything they do... I just stated my opinion about this concept which is why the argument "don't buy it then" will never work for me.. I kind of agree with you. There is a good chance that there will be like 8-10 songs on each album, ie enough the could have fit over 1 disc or just released a double album. If this is the case I would feel royally screwed over and ripped off as it would show that this was just a cheap marketing ploy But the other scenario is that we get 3 full albums which are totally worth our money. That is what I am sure everyone here is hoping for and will be awesome if it happens. But alas I remain doubtful until I see a tracklist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJedi Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 some of you sound so negative :/ i honestly don't think Green Day would release three albums just to get as much money from us as possible. i think they release three albums 'cause they think it's a fun idea and 'cause they have too many songs to only release one xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastard of 1967 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 ^^^ That. SO fucking that. When was the last time any of us saw Green Day do *anything* half-assed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollard_11 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 ^^^ That. SO fucking that. When was the last time any of us saw Green Day do *anything* half-assed? I'm not referring to Green Day themselves, its more the record labels. They screwed over Green Day with the promotion of 21CB and I just have a funny feeling they will try to milk as much money out of this as possible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixtrix Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 I'm not referring to Green Day themselves, its more the record labels. They screwed over Green Day with the promotion of 21CB and I just have a funny feeling they will try to milk as much money out of this as possible! Screwed over is a big word. 21CB was just a difficult album to promote. It had less potential singles compared to American Idiot. And of course does their record company want to get some money out of it, as they probably provide the band a budget to record the album. They eventually want to get that back plus some profit, that's how the business flows. Apart from that, Reprise has always given Green Day way more freedom than most of the record labels out there will ever provide. They could have dropped Green Day after Warning because sales were very low with that album. But instead they allowed the band to record 2 9 minute epic songs. Which other record label would put so much faith in a band? I doubt there is a nasty marketing scam behind the trilogy. I really don't believe it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colour_me_stupid_ Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 If people are worried about the price of them, wait til they drop in price. Bingo. Listen online while you are waiting. Bingo. Sure I still don't even own a copy of AAF : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubbie Head Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 You know, I couldn't care less if they promote or don't promote the album nicely this time, as long as I can have it and get to see them live I'll be more than happy. (I don't think they worry about that either, at this point) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elena Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 I also don't worry about it, cos the songs we've heard so far also don't sound like they were trying to make money...usually when you wanna make money, you make mainstream rock (or pop ) but those songs don't sound like that at all, so it wouldn't make sense to release 3 albums of not so mainstream songs to make money with, if they tried to make money with it, they'd now stick to sth more mainstream and release three bubblegum pop albums... also: sure a label wants to make money but they could also make enough money with just one album and i doubt that ANY label would ever force a band to release three album to make more money, i think labels more force a band to a specific music style and probably releasing albums more often, but not to trilogys ..and also as Sixtrix already said: Green Day have more freedom than most other bands...usually a label wants that a band releases albums often but Green Day waited 5 years between AI and 21CB and as Sixtrix also said, they could have dropped Green Day after Warning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastard of 1967 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 I'm not referring to Green Day themselves, its more the record labels. They screwed over Green Day with the promotion of 21CB and I just have a funny feeling they will try to milk as much money out of this as possible! Cavallo's got his own skin in the game this time, he ain't gonna hang his old friends out to dry just to make a quick buck. Have some faith please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwood Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Screwed over is a big word. 21CB was just a difficult album to promote. It had less potential singles compared to American Idiot. And of course does their record company want to get some money out of it, as they probably provide the band a budget to record the album. They eventually want to get that back plus some profit, that's how the business flows. Apart from that, Reprise has always given Green Day way more freedom than most of the record labels out there will ever provide. They could have dropped Green Day after Warning because sales were very low with that album. But instead they allowed the band to record 2 9 minute epic songs. Which other record label would put so much faith in a band? I doubt there is a nasty marketing scam behind the trilogy. I really don't believe it myself. At no point was Reprise ever thinking of dropping Green Day. They have been the biggest artist on that label for the past 18 years. Furthermore, I have always thought it was ridiculous to deem an album a commercial failure just because it sold a million copies in the United States. Not one Foo Fighters album has ever sold over a million copies in the U.S., and yet I have never heard anyone call those records commercial failures. Unfortunately, because the band has been so monumentally successful, there are judge by a different standard. In many ways, I think this has caused people to wrongly equate high albums sales with good music. I remember many people on this forum did not care for ‘American Idiot’ when it first came out. However, after the record had been a huge commercial success, people deemed it one of the greatest albums of all time. If ‘21st Century Breakdown’ had sold just as many copies, people would most likely be praising the album in the same fashion as its predecessor. In short, I believe both the press and the fan base place way too much emphasis on commercial success when it comes to this band, thus creating a false perception of reality in regards to the actual quality of a given album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter. Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 I don't know if this was said before, but you can give them your email now, and then they can later notify you how and when you can pre-order the trilogy. Here's the link: http://greendaytrio.warnerreprise.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJedi Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 ^^^ That. SO fucking that. When was the last time any of us saw Green Day do *anything* half-assed? exactly! we shouldn't be worried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkingContradictionPL Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Do you guys think we'll be getting fuck time? I think it will be on Tre. Everyone knows about what are Tre's songs. Billie said that there will be a song or a record, I don't remember well (mission: watch again all the videos from studio). And when Billie announced on twitter that they started recording, he said that it's fuck time. For me this is clear. Fuck Time must on one of these records I don't care about money, I don't care about labels. I'm a fan of Green Day. I'm interested only in music and maybe in their concert in Poland or somewhere else where I could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacknovella Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 I have a feeling this album trilogy will be fucking amazing. Just from what I've heard from the secret shows, and the whole vibe around it, I feel like it may be a mix of old and new Green Day. Throw the Foxboro Hot Tub influence into the mix and I'm pretty sure this will be the best we've heard from Green Day so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo. Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 I also don't worry about it, cos the songs we've heard so far also don't sound like they were trying to make money...usually when you wanna make money, you make mainstream rock (or pop ) but those songs don't sound like that at all, so it wouldn't make sense to release 3 albums of not so mainstream songs to make money with, if they tried to make money with it, they'd now stick to sth more mainstream and release three bubblegum pop albums... but, in my opinion, green day is mainstream. and they are earning money because they have a lot of fans who are buying the albums. and if an album hits # 1 in the album chart the single will be played on radio stations which has the concequence that more people will buy the album , and dos and tre too. --> so they are earning a lot of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solongfromthestars Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 I don't know why everyone assumes Tre will be full of typical Tre songs. It's never occurred to me, I think it really is just a pun on his name rather than using the correct spelling. And I don't mean Tre shouldn't write or sing or anything like that, so please nobody take that the wrong way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastard of 1967 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 but, in my opinion, green day is mainstream. and they are earning money because they have a lot of fans who are buying the albums. and if an album hits # 1 in the album chart the single will be played on radio stations which has the concequence that more people will buy the album , and dos and tre too. --> so they are earning a lot of money. Ok, gotta take the gloves off now...... They own their own sets and ride a fucking BUS when they tour so they can keep their ticket prices low enough for people who otherwise wouldn't be able to afford to go. You've got acts like Madonna, U2, Springsteen, even (retch) RIHANNA charging $200+ a seat for a 90-minute phone-it-in performance...and then there's Green Day. For less than $100 you can have literally the time of your life in the pit or the 100-level seats, watching one of modern rock's most potent live acts play like every fucking note were their last ones on earth. Yeah, they're in the mainstream now, and they make a good living for themselves doing it....but PLEASE don't dish out this bullshit that they're only in it for the money. If they were, you'd know. Believe me, you'd know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elena Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 but, in my opinion, green day is mainstream. and they are earning money because they have a lot of fans who are buying the albums. and if an album hits # 1 in the album chart the single will be played on radio stations which has the concequence that more people will buy the album , and dos and tre too. --> so they are earning a lot of money. but they don't make music for the money and they also don't make that kind of music to make easily the most money with, if they did, it would sound a lot different...it's still rock music, sure rock is also mostly mainstream and they DO earn a lot with that, but still rock isn't as popular as pop and i'm sure if they tried to make money or if the label forced them to anything their music would be a lot more pop-ish...but they still have songs like St Jimmy ...in my last post i didn't mean that they're completely not mainstream, i just meant that they still do what they want and not everything is mainstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo. Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Ok, gotta take the gloves off now...... They own their own sets and ride a fucking BUS when they tour so they can keep their ticket prices low enough for people who otherwise wouldn't be able to afford to go. You've got acts like Madonna, U2, Springsteen, even (retch) RIHANNA charging $200+ a seat for a 90-minute phone-it-in performance...and then there's Green Day. For less than $100 you can have literally the time of your life in the pit or the 100-level seats, watching one of modern rock's most potent live acts play like every fucking note were their last ones on earth. Yeah, they're in the mainstream now, and they make a good living for themselves doing it....but PLEASE don't dish out this bullshit that they're only in it for the money. If they were, you'd know. Believe me, you'd know. i don´t say that they are for money. i only wanted to say, that the reason that a band earns money are the fans. not more. and in times in that music is mostly downloaded illegaly on the internet. A band is nothing without live shows because only a few people buy their records. but they don't make music for the money and they also don't make that kind of music to make easily the most money with, if they did, it would sound a lot different...it's still rock music, sure rock is also mostly mainstream and they DO earn a lot with that, but still rock isn't as popular as pop and i'm sure if they tried to make money or if the label forced them to anything their music would be a lot more pop-ish...but they still have songs like St Jimmy ...in my last post i didn't mean that they're completely not mainstream, i just meant that they still do what they want and not everything is mainstream mainstream is when bands are played on the radio and if i ask people if the know green day they say "oh 21 guns / WMUWSE is such a great song. i love this band" if i ask them: "if you listened to christie road?" they are replying with "what the hell is christie road???" so they are mainstream because a lot of people know them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJedi Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 mainstream is when bands are played on the radio and if i ask people if the know green day they say "oh 21 guns / WMUWSE is such a great song. i love this band" if i ask them: "if you listened to christie road?" they are replying with "what the hell is christie road???" so they are mainstream because a lot of people know them but, why does it matter if Green Day are "mainstream"? why always make that sound like a bad thing? be happy that they still play Green Day on the radio instead.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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