farley drexel hatcher Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I think I remember reading something about when Billie Joe was at his dads funeral, he went into another room because he was just so sad. Some one walked in (maybe his mom or brother) and he said "just wake me up when September ends" and that's where the title came from. But I don't of that's accurate info. BOBD and Macy's Day Parade may have some thin in common. I would say probably not. For I understand that BOBD is part of the AI story, but I don't what it really means to Billie. As well as MDP, I don't how he came to the idea for both songs soni can't say much. But I would say that they probably dont have anything in common, but I could be wrong. Yeah that thing about WMUWSE is just a dumb rumour that's spread on Tumblr. There is absolutely nothing to back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissawebster Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Yeah, it would be really sad if that were true, but I don't think it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisionsofGreenDay115 Posted January 30, 2012 Author Share Posted January 30, 2012 Hasn't Billie compared his song writing to The Beach Boys a few times? lol if we could find something to prove that, I would laugh!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather. Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Yeah that thing about WMUWSE is just a dumb rumour that's spread on Tumblr. There is absolutely nothing to back it up. Really? I always thought it sounded a bit hokey, but I've heard it so many places I kinda figured he told that story once. I'd prefer that WMUWSE wasn't just a quote from his childhood. It's a little too poetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissawebster Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancid punk:LTD Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 lol if we could find something to prove that, I would laugh!! why would you laugh? They're great writers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonia. Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Longview and welcome to paradise....... Anything in common? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScatteredPictures Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Longview and welcome to paradise....... Anything in common? What are you trying to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissawebster Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 What are you trying to say? Bwahaha! "Longview" is about boredom and loneliness and masterbating to fill the emptiness. And "Welcome to Paradise" is a mockery of getting out on your own away from your parents, or in this case his mother, for the first time only to find it kind of sucks. Both seem to be a mockery of this new life, a sarcastic acceptance that reality isn't at all what it was supposed to be. A lot of the songs in Dookie seem to carry this theme, and then reinforce it in some of the songs in Nimrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScatteredPictures Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Bwahaha! "Longview" is about boredom and loneliness and masterbating to fill the emptiness. And "Welcome to Paradise" is a mockery of getting out on your own away from your parents, or in this case his mother, for the first time only to find it kind of sucks. Both seem to be a mockery of this new life, a sarcastic acceptance that reality isn't at all what it was supposed to be. A lot of the songs in Dookie seem to carry this theme, and then reinforce it in some of the songs in Nimrod. Well, ok ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastard of 1967 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Haha! He really is addictive to listen to. I don't know why, but I was expecting him to be much older. You know, one of those old school theater icons, not someone my own age who's so accomplished and relateable. Totally off-topic here, but: One thing I observed during the whole AIOB run was that Michael Mayer and Billie Joe Armstrong found themselves to be creative soul-mates. It really shows during the interviews, and I doubt that American Idiot "the musical" will be their only collaborative work. "Welcome to Paradise" is a mockery of getting out on your own away from your parents, or in this case his mother, for the first time only to find it kind of sucks. In part, yes, but there is also something very liberating about it -- eventually making peace with that which scared the living shit out of you at first, coming to terms with it, and even enjoying it. "For some strange reason it's now feeling like my home / and I'm never gonna go." In that sense it's very, very different than Longview even though both have roots in a similar theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissawebster Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Well, ok ^^ Oh shit. Sorry! I wasn't laughing at you or the question that was raised about the connection between the two songs, which I found to be valid and interesting. I was laughing at the part about "What are you trying to say?" because I thought there was a double entendre in it. Sorry, my mind immediately went to the gutter. Now that I think about it, I probably make no sense. Totally off-topic here, but: One thing I observed during the whole AIOB run was that Michael Mayer and Billie Joe Armstrong found themselves to be creative soul-mates. It really shows during the interviews, and I doubt that American Idiot "the musical" will be their only collaborative work. In part, yes, but there is also something very liberating about it -- eventually making peace with that which scared the living shit out of you at first, coming to terms with it, and even enjoying it. "For some strange reason it's now feeling like my home / and I'm never gonna go." In that sense it's very, very different than Longview even though both have roots in a similar theme. You're right. They really do seem like creative soulmates. In that one interview I've seen, they just seem to click. I hope it's not their only collaborative work, even if I didn't get a chance to see it on Broadway. If it comes out on DVD, I am definitely buying it. Good point about that difference in the songs. They do seem to diverge in the end. "Welcome to Paradise" in the end finds and accepts and is content with his new home, where in "Longview" he still seems to be lost and still searching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScatteredPictures Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Oh shit. Sorry! I wasn't laughing at you or the question that was raised about the connection between the two songs, which I found to be valid and interesting. I was laughing at the part about "What are you trying to say?" because I thought there was a double entendre in it. Sorry, my mind immediately went to the gutter. Now that I think about it, I probably make no sense. Haha, it's ok. I didn't get offended or anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisionsofGreenDay115 Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 yeah Longview is simply about boredom. A guy tried telling it was all about masturbation and i was like, "you dumb ass, just because it has the word masturbation in the song, doesnt mean its about it..." So yes Longview is about boredom where as Welcome to Paradise (im listening to it as i write this lol) is about moving out and living a dump with other pot-heads and bands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastard of 1967 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 yeah Longview is simply about boredom. Good observation. The lyric is "when masturbation has lost its fun" -- when you're so bored and apathetic that even jerking off doesn't trigger any sense of enjoyment anymore. It's being used as just one example of how fucking dull life is, rather than as a focal point of the whole song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissawebster Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I don't see it as about how dull life in general is, but rather how bored and lonely he is in that moment. The first time I heard "Longview" the image that popped into my head was of a musician masterbating in a hotel room because he just didn't have anything better to do and needed "something." Specifically, I saw Billie Joe Armstrong stuck in a hotel room bored and masterbating, and when that didn't relieve the boredom and loneliness and make him feel better, he wrote a song about it to get it out of his system. By the way, does anyone know the story behind the title of that song? It always seemed like a strange title to me, so I figured there was a reason behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScatteredPictures Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 By the way, does anyone know the story behind the title of that song? It always seemed like a strange title to me, so I figured there was a reason behind it. Yes, to be honest I don't even really know what "Longview" even means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissawebster Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Haha! I don't even want to speculate 'cause my mind immediately goes in the gutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_and_the_ave Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I don't see it as about how dull life in general is, but rather how bored and lonely he is in that moment. The first time I heard "Longview" the image that popped into my head was of a musician masterbating in a hotel room because he just didn't have anything better to do and needed "something." Specifically, I saw Billie Joe Armstrong stuck in a hotel room bored and masterbating, and when that didn't relieve the boredom and loneliness and make him feel better, he wrote a song about it to get it out of his system. By the way, does anyone know the story behind the title of that song? It always seemed like a strange title to me, so I figured there was a reason behind it. he tweeted about the title about a year ago https://twitter.com/#!/BJAofficial/status/35415649631223808 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissawebster Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Cool. I can't believe you were able to find that so quick. Thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisionsofGreenDay115 Posted February 3, 2012 Author Share Posted February 3, 2012 Help!! I dont understand who is talking at the end of Jesus of Suburbia... "I dont feel any shame I wont apologize, when there ain't nowhere you can go. Running away from pain when you've been victimized, tales from another broken..." who is speaking here, and to whom is he/she speaking to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissawebster Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I think it's Johnny (Jesus of Suburbia) justifying running away and that he doesn't feel any shame for it because it's just another sad consequence of a broken home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classof12 Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I think it's Johnny (Jesus of Suburbia) justifying running away and that he doesn't feel any shame for it because it's just another sad consequence of a broken home. I concur! I was about to say it but I didn't know how to express it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScatteredPictures Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Johnny (Jesus of Suburbia) How do you all actually know that his name's Johnny? I feel like a retard now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissawebster Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 How do you all actually know that his name's Johnny? I feel like a retard now. Great question. I wondered the same thing. I think Johnny comes strictly from the stage play. When you read the lyrics, the closest you get to Johnny is "J". Maybe to distinguish him from St. Jimmy? If you look at the lyrics in the booklet, my take on it is that his name is Jimmy, and then he takes on the St. Jimmy persona when he has his break from reality. And then Jesus of Suburbia is the other facet of his personality that is really symbolic of anyone and everyone in modern America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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