oda Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 She said that Billie Joe was really honoured, and said something like he "wanted to swallow it" so it was part of him - that kind of thing. Yeah i remember that. I also remember thinking that Beej had some odd ways to express his apprechiation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abbey. Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 She said that Billie Joe was really honoured, and said something like he "wanted to swallow it" so it was part of him - that kind of thing. Hey, can someone please go tell Billie Joe he can shit that purple heart out now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overjoyed Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Ok I shouldn't post here since I’m not affected in any way but I had to look up what a Purple Heart is. The Wikipedia article is very detailed and I’m not sure if I understood it right but it says that one receives this medal if they’ve been wounded while serving in an armed force or something like that, not due to an accident. So she couldn’t have received the Purple Heart if the newspaper article is correct. Are we sure the article is correct regarding her military service only being in Texas as a dentist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 Ok I shouldn't post here since I’m not affected in any way but I had to look up what a Purple Heart is. The Wikipedia article is very detailed and I’m not sure if I understood it right but it says that one receives this medal if they’ve been wounded while serving in an armed force or something like that, not due to an accident. So she couldn’t have received the Purple Heart if the newspaper article is correct. Are we sure the article is correct regarding her military service only being in Texas as a dentist? From what I've seen and read it doesn't seem like she was ever deployed. There always the small chance that Fox News reported incorrectly, but considering everything else, I don't think that's as likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gloria123 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 this whole thing bothers me, it's mostly the fact that none of these stories line up. at this point i'll willing to say that she lied quite a few times about different things because i don't believe that Fox news or whoever is going to make crap like this up. and as a person who did buy something and didn't receive it it really pisses me off that she just fell off the face of the earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain peroxide Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Trust me, there's no way Fox News would pass up the ability to play up the fact that she was a Purple Heart recipient who had been injured overseas. There's no way they would've left that out, unless it wasn't true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
November's Storms Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 This is, in a way, a lovely example of the positives of GDC and fans in general. Not what Dawn did or may have done, but the reaction from everyone else. Times like this, where people work to support each other, make me proud to be part of the Green Day family. Okay, squishy sentimentality over. Continue legitimate discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolkev Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 With the whole Purple Heart thing.... Yes, Alex, you have to be correct. It's so sad that a person does so much good, so much to help the world, and then is found out to have ran a whole scam. And then she dissapears. I mean, if you go that far to do good, at least do it RIGHT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollard_11 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 This is, in a way, a lovely example of the positives of GDC and fans in general. Not what Dawn did or may have done, but the reaction from everyone else. Times like this, where people work to support each other, make me proud to be part of the Green Day family. Okay, squishy sentimentality over. Continue legitimate discussion. Soppy group bro hug!! No idea what to make of GDATW, never got involved with it myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
November's Storms Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Soppy group bro hug!! No idea what to make of GDATW, never got involved with it myself Nah it never got going in Ireland. A good thing looking back on it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollard_11 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Nah it never got going in Ireland. A good thing looking back on it now. Well that was mainly due to one of the main organizers in Ireland being a tool we all wanted to avoid, but that is best saved for the regulars thread where all the gossip is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendaytone Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Nah it never got going in Ireland. A good thing looking back on it now. Well, i still think the day itself was worthwhile and a success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolkev Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Nah it never got going in Ireland. A good thing looking back on it now. A good thing it never got going.... Sad, but true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendaytone Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I want to add that i think there is a danger that Dawn is vilified for this, when it's possible that she had good intentions and never went out to purposely scam people for money. I do believe she is very sick and that is a big contributor to all of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoodleBob Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 This situation is getting more and more dodgy as the replies continue to grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overjoyed Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Trust me, there's no way Fox News would pass up the ability to play up the fact that she was a Purple Heart recipient who had been injured overseas. There's no way they would've left that out, unless it wasn't true. I didn't know how trustworthy the article was because I don't live in the US. But I see, well then...I'm speechless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Well, i still think the day itself was worthwhile and a success. Agreed. That day of people doing worthwhile environmental stuff really isn't related to the auctions she's done or any of the other stuff. It was just different people around the world doing various stuff to help the environment and any money they raised they sent off to charity themselves. There's nothing dodgy about that part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 All these issues currently raising concerns were all much less to do with the actual day that people met-up and did something good. Thay day was absolutely a success, with people all over the world working to do some good in their communities. Even the original charity went by without any concern as it seems most people got their items. It's only been in the recent months where things seem to have gotten weird. I'm glad we helped promote the GDATW event itself. That was where GDA was involved and I think it was a worthwhile event and something I hope we can organize and run ourselves in the future, without all this extra stuff that eventually led to the situation we see today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollard_11 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Well, i still think the day itself was worthwhile and a success. Not saying anything bad about the day itself. Yes organising a charity day was amazing and showed a real unification in our fanbase. I fully believe its a tradition that should continue. Its a shame that these issues have cast a shadow over and distracted people from the real purpose of the day. I was merely commenting on the poor organisation in myself and Stephens local area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 I want to add that i think there is a danger that Dawn is vilified for this, when it's possible that she had good intentions and never went out to purposely scam people for money. I do believe she is very sick and that is a big contributor to all of this. I feel the same way. If this really was some grand-scheme to make money, she did a pretty poor job of it because we all know first hand that she did do stuff for the community. I don't want people to feel like we're trying to defend any of her actions or bad decisions, but I am a strong believer of innocent until proven guilty, and I don't think anyone here has all the facts. There is some chance that all the of the worst is true, but until we know, I just don't like people assuming they are. And like I already said, the military service stuff, while also incredibly egregious, it's not as important to this community as the fact that anyone here might have been taken advantage of. That's an issue that is less relevant to this, even if still very important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starbug Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Oh balls, this is so sad. I know she's lied, and as a result, hurt people. Whether she be sick or not, that's no excuse. And I seriously question that, too... It's just sad, sad, sad, and I hope if GD are aware of this in any way, that it doesn't put the whole fan community in a bad light, because there are some beautiful people involved. THAT pisses me off. Purple heart my sweet patootie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallorymaloney Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Something that still angers me to this day is the fact that Dawn blatantly stole the idea of 'Green Day Across The World' from two younger GDCers who came up with the idea first. She came into their thread and started taking the entire thing over, even though they didn't want or ask for her 'help'. She ended up twisting the fuck out of it, of course, and made it into the massive money/attention grabbing scheme that it's become. It was originally meant to be a simple day once a year on which Green Day fans were to celebrate the fact they liked Green Day by doing simple shit, like listening to Nimrod, or smoking a joint, or watching Bullet In A Bible, or hanging with fellow Green Day fans, or running around screaming Green Day lyrics in public, or trying to get #greenday trending on Twitter, or whatever. In other words, it was supposed to be like Flag Day for Green Day fans, not Earth Day the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starbug Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Something that still angers me to this day is the fact that Dawn blatantly stole the idea of 'Green Day Across The World' from two younger GDCers who came up with the idea first. She came into their thread and started taking the entire thing over, even though they didn't want or ask for her 'help'. She ended up twisting the fuck out of it, of course, and made it into the massive money/attention grabbing scheme that it's become. It was originally meant to be a simple day once a year on which Green Day fans were to celebrate the fact they liked Green Day by doing simple shit, like listening to Nimrod, or smoking a joint, or watching Bullet In A Bible, or hanging with fellow Green Day fans, or running around screaming Green Day lyrics in public, or trying to get #greenday trending on Twitter, or whatever. In other words, it was supposed to be like Flag Day for Green Day fans, not Earth Day the second. How does that differ from any other day of the year? I respect what she was trying to do (well, what it SEEMED like she was trying to do) I just smell horseshit alllllll over this. I hope it all gets straightened out and resolved happily, but I think this lady has dropped off the face of the earth, at least for now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 Something that still angers me to this day is the fact that Dawn blatantly stole the idea of 'Green Day Across The World' from two younger GDCers who came up with the idea first. She came into their thread and started taking the entire thing over, even though they didn't want or ask for her 'help'. She ended up twisting the fuck out of it, of course, and made it into the massive money/attention grabbing scheme that it's become. It was originally meant to be a simple day once a year on which Green Day fans were to celebrate the fact they liked Green Day by doing simple shit, like listening to Nimrod, or smoking a joint, or watching Bullet In A Bible, or hanging with fellow Green Day fans, or running around screaming Green Day lyrics in public, or trying to get #greenday trending on Twitter, or whatever. In other words, it was supposed to be like Flag Day for Green Day fans, not Earth Day the second. Yeah, but honestly, that idea sucked. I loved the idea of organizing people to give something back to their community and the environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placenta Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Being a collector of anything Green Day-related, I was very interrested when I first saw the eBay-auctions pop up a while ago. I was highly sceptical to the authenticity of the signed items, especially seeing so many different items from the same seller - including some items that I guess the band would declined to sign. Seeing the auctions go towards a good cause, I decided to bid on a auction for a 39/smooth-vinyl that i ended up winning it on 25th february. The vinyl arrived safely, and I was promised that the money went towards a charity (witch was why I bothered to pay a relatively high price for the vinyl). The user ID on eBay was greendayacrosstheworld2011, and on questions on the authenticity of the signature, i was told (direct quite): "it was signed by billie after the talk backs in nyc on jan 9th as for the wording i don't know it was donated". A little while later, I noticed the same seller (but with a new eBay ID: gdatw_may_28_2011) posting auctions for various posters - some signed and some not signed. Since i have doubts on signed items, I wanted to go for one of the non-signed posters, but pointed out a duplicate listing with the same picture being used on two posters. I got a explanation that made me a bit suspicios, but ended up bidding on the item, and winning it. I was then told not to pay for it with PayPal due to "PayPal not accepting GDATW as a charity", but the item was placed on Amazon for me to buy it for the same price instead. I got suspicious, and never went on with that. Quote: "here is my Amazon store link and i listed the items you won for the same price you won it.if you dont have an amazon.com account they are very easy to get,easier than ebay even." A little while later, I noticed that the vinyl I previously won on eBay (and recieved) is listed on the same Amazon-store: http://www.amazon.com/GREEN-BILLIE-ARMSTRONG-AUTOGRAPHED-SMOOTH/dp/B005534XIW/ref=sr_1_37?ie=UTF8&m=A2FY1Q1XSV8I0L&s=generic&qid=1317762812&sr=1-37. At the same time, the exact same vinyl was being posted for sale on eBay. Picture of my vinyl, as proof: http://www.greendaycollector.com/temp/smooth.jpg My conclusion: Bad #1: I have doubts about the money that I paid have gone to any charity. I feel I've been sold something on the wrong premises (I would not have bought it if it wasn't for the fact that it was being fronted as a charity - supporting a good cause). This leads me to think that the whole thing actually could be a scam. Good intentions? Fair enough - but I actually gave money to this! Bad #2: Items that are no longer in possession of the people/person behind GDATW are currently being offered for sale on Amazon and have been tried offered on eBay. This is a obvious attemt to rip people off. On a "neutral" side note: The signature on this (and other items offered) are most likely fake. I assume we all can live with this, as any signed item from any known artist could possibly be a fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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