captain peroxide Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 As for her health, Dawn DOES have cancer. No I have not seen the xrays, but I have seen pictures of her after chemo where she lost almost all of her hair except some stragglers. I saw the pictures as it started to grow in. I was in the room when she put on her wigs. I have seen the battle scars, medications, etc. She had surgery last week to remove tumors from her liver which have been discovered as non-tumorous. No, she is not in either hospital someone was looking for her at. Not all people have drastic weight loss after chemo depending on what hormones or drugs you are also on at the time. I dont know any of what she is taking, but know chemo is different for everyone. If she really does have cancer, she's severely exaggerated and/or lied about it in the past. As Beth said, no doctor in the world would just let you be taken off a respirator to fly across the country. Dawn has accepted responsibility for the airline thing and only she and her traveling companion know what truly happened. People should just leave it at that. I know the incident does not show her in a favorable light, but she did what she did for her reasons and her reasons only. She lied about her mother dying in order to get a bereavement fare to go to the show. We know that already. Telling us to leave it at that isn't very constructive. It's relevant information to this whole affair. She was injured overseas, but what put her in a wheelchair was due to botched surgery from that injury. Yes she was a dental tech, but dont most people in service also have some sort of other duty or job they can perform when not performing military activities? Sort of like those that clean latrines or cook, couldnt she possibly have been a dental tech there and then done that full time while in Texas? So Fox News got it wrong when they said she was injured in a fall? (I'm not saying that sarcastically, I'm legitimately asking you). Because again, I very much doubt Fox News would've avoided the chance to mention that she was a purple heart recipient who had been injured overseas. This also doesn't explain why Marian couldn't find any accidents in the database for the date Dawn stated the accident occurred, nor the numerous discrepancies about her uniform. Sorry, I'm not buying it. There's just still too many holes in this story. If you can correct any of the observations I've made, please do, because the rest of what you said sounds at least vaguely plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasalaska Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 And what about the $850 she owes that was leant to her to get to the Costa Mesa show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammy Ferin Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 I would like to speak about a couple of things regarding Dawn. First, to user "Placenta": Hi. I just wanted to let you know that your Billie Joe signed copy of 39/Smooth has an authentic signature. I'm the one that Sent Fallyn those links of a few items on Amazon that were obvious fakes. I have a very good eye for fakes, and I'm 100% positive that yours is a real signature. I have a lot of items signed by Billie, most of which I obtained in person. Also, most of the ebay/amazon items that Dawn put up for auction/sale had authentic signatures. It's the more recent items, from the last few months or so that are questionable, both regarding signature authenticity, and were some of those items actually in her possession, ie, hers to sell? That part I don't know. I know that not everything that was signed that she was selling were from meeting them in person. Some items she had purchased already signed (by Billie or all 3) from other sellers on ebay. Most everything was from her personal collection, with a few items being donated to her for gdatw charity. I didn't notice any fake signatures until the more recent items from the last couple months or so. Again, your 39/Smooth signature is authentic. For anyone wondering about the full-sized "Blue" replica guitar, many can attest that Billie signed that in person, and there are photos of Billie signing and then holding it. I was lucky enough to actually get to hold it that weekend of the party back in February. It was amazing. I even bid on it, but unfortunately (for me) it went beyond what I could afford. I got to spend a lot of time with Dawn the day before her party. She was telling me about her money troubles. I asked her why did she have to sell her entire collection for the charity. And why did all the proceeds of her personal items had to go to charity? She said that she was selling everything because she didn't think she had much longer to live. And that she had already said that all of it was going to charity, so she could not keep any of it for herself to help pay her bills. She had been complaining about giving away tickets and other stuff and not having any money for her bills. That's why I brought it up to her. It seems that she may have changed her mind regarding in recent months. FYI, some cancer patients can actually gain weight--I ended up gaining weight while undergoing chemo for breast cancer back in 2002. The reason was that the chemo made me feel queezy, and that the only relief I got was from eating. Having food in my stomache made me feel better, so I ate, a lot. So, chemo can have very different effects on different people. Also, I did lose all of my hair, and it didn't start growing back until I had completed my 6 months of treatments. I have to say that my hair came back nicely; did not ever look like someone hacked it off unevenly while growing back (like Dawn's looked on that AA video on Fox). I'm not trying to defend Dawn, or take anyone's side. I just wanted "Placenta" (why you chose that user name, I don't want to even know) to know that his Billie signature is real. And also that chemo doesn't always make you lose weight. Side note--when I found out I had breast cancer, I was actually looking forward to chemo treatments because I thought I could finally lose the extra weight that I gained since having a kid. Was I ever surprised to find that it had the opposite effect on me. Oh well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatherotti Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 I can't believe that something like this can happen to our wonder community of fans. For someone to come in here and cause harm like this knowing they can get away with it. Sad.....that's what this is. This is sad. I honestly hope she is telling the truth and she is a real person. If not this is just plain disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 She offered to auction off and give away prizes which were items from her personal collection that she accumulated over years and years. Some recently in NY, but others she got off of ebay or from private sellers. Personally I believe some autographs are not originals, but I don't think she intentionally bought them knowing that. I believe she does have multiple copies of items and used the same picture to represent the different auctions. But again Im not sure. What about the photos of items she was selling where you can clearly see the autographs were drawn on using MS paint? Her photo: http://www.amazon.co...21549311&sr=1-4 Original photo: http://ring.cdandlp....114991277-2.jpg Another one: http://www.amazon.co...21549249&sr=1-2 Surely this was a deliberate attempt to deceive? Also she had other items for sale on Amazon that she was claiming she'd handmade that were the exact same items listed by an ebay seller in Singapore, she had obviously just used their photos. Not shooting the messenger lol, but just pointing out that really doesn't explain away the auction dodginess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IscoredWaddlesgoals Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 I really hope she gets the courage one day to (openly) come on here and explain herself. It feels like we're caught in the middle of people making -fairly reasonable- accusations and people trying to defend/explain her. Neither approach appears to be helping people get their money back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendaytone Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 As an aside, i want to say this (although sad) experience makes me really proud of this community, it's collective honesty and determination to ensure that the good will out. A big thanks to everyone who has stepped forward with constructive comments that are helping us towards finding a decent end result. If nothing else, i feel like this has had the affect of bringing this community closer together, and it bodes well for our future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharon mitchell Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 As an aside, i want to say this (although sad) experience makes me really proud of this community, it's collective honesty and determination to ensure that the good will out. A big thanks to everyone who has stepped forward with constructive comments that are helping us towards finding a decent end result. If nothing else, i feel like this has had the affect of bringing this community closer together, and it bodes well for our future. It WAS good. The day in London was amazing - friendships formed in the course of a day between people that would otherwise not have met. THAT is why it would be good to keep it going. The date of late May was pretty much perfect for the event in Europe - the last Monday in the month is a bank holiday in the UK and in other countries as it coincides with the religious holiday of Whitsun, the weather is usually quite kind at that time of year and it is perfect for tree planting, etc. Foliage growth is minimal, too, making clear ups possible in places that are later overgrown, and of course there is the concept of 'spring cleaning'. No one date is going to be suitable for both northern and southern hemispheres As far as Dawn goes, I bought one item from Amazon - and it took forever to arrive, but after several e-mails to her 'son' (and no, I am not convinced my messages were answered by anyone other than Dawn herself), it arrived with 'extras' to make up for the wait. One of these was a pick, signed by Mike (faked) and a press photo signed by all three - and although the signatures look genuine, it was merely a photocopy. I am not disappointed - I only paid for the vinyl, a 1994 Italian bootleg that I had wanted for ages, but when I hear of how others have been duped, it hurts. You don't deserve that, any of you. Something so similar happened on Facebook just over a year ago - a woman was apparently involved in a near-fatal car accident involving a drunk driver in her native Australia and her profile 'taken over' by a well-meaning friend ..... a friend who then started to ask for donations to get an apparently comatose patient an air-passage and a ticket for the Green Day show in Wembley, on the other side of the world. I became suspicious, and carried out some investigations. Her local newspaper carried a story about the theft of a refuse bin from a house, but said nothing about what sounded like an horrific road crash. I, among others, exposed her (getting blocked by her for my troubles) and did as much as I could to alert the kids that were promising to send their pocket money out to the "friend" 's address - which actually checked out to be a house left vacant for several months. That woman is still on Facebook, still with hundreds of friends that believe everything she says - and I hoped she was a one - off. Sadly, it seems that she wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripe Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Kat, your loyalty to Dawn and GDATW is admirable. There are so many unanswered questions and so many discrepancies with her various stories, though, that I don't think anyone can believe her side of things without full disclosure. And I do think her situation with the airlines is relevant, as well as her obvious lying about the auctioned Green Day items and "handmade" clothing. Because if someone lies once, it's usually not a one-off occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommy's Little Nightmare Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Kat, I love you to death. I fully support you trying to help, but I think that Dawn duped you even worse than she duped the rest of us. I understand you staying neutral, but I don't believe a goddamn thing that comes out of that woman's mouth. There really are far too many holes in the story, and I don't buy into them. I feel like I'm watching her take advantage of you, and your kindness and willingness to help, and I really don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandi509 Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 I think she's a pathological liar. That might just be me though. From what it seems, she's lied to us, a lot - so much that maybe she's even started to believe herself. Agreed! I really am starting to think that's the case - she's a pathological liar - it's almost like she can't even help herself and is to the point of believing the lies herself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommy's Little Nightmare Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Agreed! I really am starting to think that's the case - she's a pathological liar - it's almost like she can't even help herself and is to the point of believing the lies herself... I absolutely agree with this. Maybe she is sick. Maybe she does have cancer- but I don't think it's at all to the point of being nearly dying the way she led everyone to believe. Furthermore, I agree with the person who said she was mentally ill. Because I truly do not believe the vast majority of things that have come from her side. There continues to be far too many holes in the stories. So if she is ill, I do believe she's mentally so more than physically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 She was injured overseas, but what put her in a wheelchair was due to botched surgery from that injury. Yes she was a dental tech, but dont most people in service also have some sort of other duty or job they can perform when not performing military activities? Sort of like those that clean latrines or cook, couldnt she possibly have been a dental tech there and then done that full time while in Texas? In addition to what Alex has said, her being a dental tech there doesn't match up with what she said in this interview: http://greendaymind....qi-war-veteran/ How were you injured? What is the extent of your injuries and how is your recovery going? DAWN71: I got injured while out on routine patrol and our Humvee hit an IED. I was the only Soldier in the vehicle that survived. I’ll never forget my battle buddy, my good friend. We went to basic training together. I’ll never forget when she died in my arms as I tried with all I had to save her. I was a combat medic and it was my job: Fight when needed and to help Soldiers when injured and try and save their lives to get them stable till medivac arrived. I had several pieces of shrapnel in my body. I had a big gash where my forehead and scalp meet, a piece in my leg and arm but my worst injury was my back, my L3-4, L4-5 and S1 were herniated and pinched several nerves in my back. It wasn’t until after my surgery that I was unable to walk or use my right leg. Some nerves that was pinched between the discs were severed when they were trying to fix it. My recovery is going pretty slow. Unfortunately, nerves do not regenerate. But I haven’t given up hope. I refuse to except this as my fate. It is kind of weird that I’m still at war but instead of with another Country, I’m at war with my body. It’s a war I will win or die trying. I’ll never give up. She claims to have been a combat medic not a dental tech and I'm sorry but the whole description of what she was doing there and how her injury happened sounds fishy to me. Can't help but think it's much more likely that the injury to her back described here was caused by a fall like it said in that Fox article, not by being blown up. Maybe someone with more knowledge about the miltary than me could shed some more light on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Judge Judy material, right here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris P FaFu Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 "Coming Clean" would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 To use a borrowed line: "It's a sad, sad situation. And it's getting more and more absurd". We can only hope that everyone effected by this will get a full and honest explanation, and that those who have been left out of pocket will be recompensed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daughter.of.Rage.and.Love Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Dawn is not the type of person to ever ask for help and that is why GDATW had so little involvement from other people. Believe what you want, but this was her baby and she had a vision and wanted it done a certain way. It was her way of thanking the band the best way she saw fit, basing it off of someone elses idea or not. She stubbornly did what she could BY HERSELF which was way too much for one person to handle. I offered help as I know several others did but she would never take it. It wasn't her baby though, it was a baby from all Green Day fans wanting to organize and celebrate that day, and she snatched it out of our hands and never even let us visit it, to use a bad metaphor. She did not listen at all to what others had to say. Saying "she had a vision and wanted it done a certain way" is a great understatement. It wasn't even about taking help, it was also about hogging a plan and running all over it without listening to the fans it was about. As for the rest of your post, thank you for explaining. I want to believe it and because I'm well, gullible, I am believing it, but I'm not sure. I think that most of it is true, but as she told it it was exaggerated (and I still have big doubts about her working in the military as a soldier). I hope it's true. I think it will be very hard for Dawn to ever explain what happened, because she'll meet a lot of skepticism here. I'm not sure if anything she (or a messenger like you) will say will be believed at this point, unless it has some solid proof, which is hard if not impossible to provide. Regardless of whether she's speaking the truth or not. Agreed! I really am starting to think that's the case - she's a pathological liar - it's almost like she can't even help herself and is to the point of believing the lies herself... Yes, I think this too. I do not know whether she also did it for the attention or to get pity/self-pity (because of the amounts of times she spoke about how bad she felt and tried to guilt-trip us). Not an accusation, just something that has gone through my mind before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IscoredWaddlesgoals Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Judge Judy material, right here. Or Jeremy Kyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tina Mary Keane Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 If GDATW was her baby why did give out to people saying they weren't helping when in fact they were trying to help but she wouldn't let them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 Kat, thanks for posting here. I'm glad you encouraged people to cancel any outstanding orders they had, as I do feel that is the best situation. It not only gives them a refund, but it does stop the real problem in it's tracks. As I mentioned to people early on in the thread, there are discrepancies and it does make people doubt the situation, but at the end of the day, what we should be doing as a community is helping those who were honestly affected. I don't think her story about her military service quite lines up with the facts we've seen. But I also think that's an issue for others to be concerned about. The people who haven't got their items or feel they got fake items is the biggest concern, as was the issue of money going to charity. That's the stuff I hope gets solved for this community. I feel like dawn really did want things done her way, and I think that's come back to cause problems now because we're at this point where it was impossible for any of us to really know what was going on and it led to the current situation. And because of that, I don't think GDATW will be able to continue with her leading it, (at least not with this community) simply because many of the people who invested time and money into it and into her, don't feel they had the transparency deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gmcloughlin Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Jeez I'm really glad I didn't buy anything now. I was so tempted to, and nearly convinced my mam to lend me her credit card because it was, supposedly, for charity Well I suppose its good to know that GDA/GDC is standing behind its members on this Proves that this place is a real community. On the whole point of Dawn taking control of GDATW, I can remember the original idea for GD fans getting together and celebrating the band we all adore together. Dawn then went on to take over everything and changed what the day was supposed to be about which annoyed me tbh. Its not that I didn't agree with her intentions for a big cleanup day, but thats not what it was supposed to be about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 I don't know how people could feel annoyed about her trying to make that day into something more than just appreciation. It was about showing appreciation by doing more than we could do on just a regular day. I still think that's an idea worth doing, because getting involved in communities and helping out is a much more worthwhile than just saying we're fans like any other day. The problem with this wasn't that she wanted it to be more than the original idea, but that she tried doing it alone and without keeping people in the loop with what was going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
**nobodylikesyou** Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 I don't know how people could feel annoyed about her trying to make that day into something more than just appreciation. It was about showing appreciation by doing more than we could do on just a regular day. I still think that's an idea worth doing, because getting involved in communities and helping out is a much more worthwhile than just saying we're fans like any other day. The problem with this wasn't that she wanted it to be more than the original idea, but that she tried doing it alone and without keeping people in the loop with what was going on. I think they are more annoyed that she took over their idea, and on top of that, wouldn't let them participate in what she decided it would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmcloughlin Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 I think they are more annoyed that she took over their idea, and on top of that, wouldn't let them participate in what she decided it would be. Yes this is what I meant. And of course I think it was a good idea, I'd never deny that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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