November's Storms Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 When the lights came on, I was surprised to find the opening band standing nearby. I reassessed my low opinion of them. Any band that was also fans was alright by me. Later it became clear that they hadn't been mingling without a purpose: the dressing room was filled with women with whom they'd presented with special backstage laminates. The shirtless singer pointed out the one he liked best, sending the roadie over to play fetch. The singer ws just a kid, and the woman didn't seem all that into him, but she accepted her cliched role half in jest. Soon they were making out. I sat in a corner with Billie, Bill Schneider, and the Big Three, literally turning our backs on the whole thing. Then I felt something cold and slimy slip down my shirt. I turned and let out an involuntary scream: it was Tre, with a live octopus, one of whose tentacles was reaching into my pants! It was truly a nightmare. Tre cackled evilly as he pulled the octopus off me. Then he opened his mouth wide and began to devour it alive. He had mentioned a desire to try some of the more unusual local delicacies, but I hadn't taken the part about live animals literally. Tre had taken one bite before the octopus wrapped one of its tentacles round his neck and started to squeeze - first tentatively, then with more force. The octopus got another tentacle down his throat, and Tre started to choke, All the while, the limeys were in a frenzy of flashbulbs, egging him on. Billie and I turned away, too revolted and unsettled to watch - only to see the opening band's singer sucking the girl's face and slipping his hand underneath her skirt. It was all too much! The bodyguards did not step in to save Tre from the octopus, but once he'd freed himself from its grip, one went with Tre to the bathroom to help him puke. The other two hacked away at the still writhing animal with knives. Get the singer for the opening band too! To read...to not read... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvgirlcl Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 After reading the actual text (thanks, Tripe), the first thing I thought was that if it's a common thing to do/eat over there, then I don't see the big problem about this situation, because it would be a guy trying on a local tradition. And probably the fact that Cometbus begins the bit with 'Tre cackled evilly', it just gives you this caricaturized image of the whole situation. Yes, we all know that Tre is insane/crazy as hell, but you also have to see the context of this, especially the cultural context. If I had read this about anyone else or an unnamed person, knowing that this is a common thing in China, it wouldn't have surprised me more than when I see people from Japan or any other Asian countries eat insects, even though I would never do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
November's Storms Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Most of this thread seems to be "Reasons not to read Cometbus #54" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripe Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Most of this thread seems to be "Reasons not to read Cometbus #54" No, you totally MUST read it!!! There is so much great stuff in it. The things that jumped out at people are of course the ones that made us uncomfortable - Aaron dissing the superfans and Tre's grossness with an octopus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
November's Storms Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Oh I will be reading it, already have it ordered. Anything could be posted in here, I still can't wait to get into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnA_ELM Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I agree with Andres, we shouldn't judge anyone. So Tre has done a weird thing, well. But that won't change the fact that he's a great drummer, the only thing he's supposed to be admired for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anja Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Is this $3 or $4? I forgot. Thanks Also, I will buy a bunch of mags when I'm in NY so if I have any left after sending those out I have promised to send out, I will let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Is this $3 or $4? I forgot. Thanks Also, I will buy a bunch of mags when I'm in NY so if I have any left after sending those out I have promised to send out, I will let you know. $4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abbey. Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 i think TRE was portrayed in #54 as the least "grown up" of the bunch. if by grown up you mean not openly running to brothels and eating live octopi. but by the end of #54, i felt a lot of compassion and a bit of sadness for TRE and his over the top antics. eating a live octopus inhumane and sadistic? noooooooooooo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan86 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 That Tré eating the octopus story wasn't half as bad as I was expecting it to be. Sounds to me like the Octopus got the better of Tré. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IscoredWaddlesgoals Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I don't what's the most minging - Tre's octopus antics or the Prima Donna bloke's busy hands. The laminate thing wasn't great either. I don't care whether it's considered a 'delicacy' or not, I still find it awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripe Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I love that word - "minging!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IscoredWaddlesgoals Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I love that word - "minging!" You need it in your life. Try and fit in a sentence without anyone noticing. Or shout MINGERS at Prima Donna and see what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daughter.of.Rage.and.Love Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Eating live octopi being a delicacy or what I think about that aside; what Tre did is not the usual way of eating live animals, it's just cruel. If he wanted to try it, go ahead and go to a restaurant, but I personally think that what he did is cruel and gross. And I haven't forgotten about the fighter fish either, which I think was cruel as well. I think killing an animal just for shits and giggles is cruel, and the octopus thing makes two. [i'm not telling him what he should or shouldn't do, just saying what I think of what he did.] sorry to bring that topic back... ------ When will GDA start selling these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripe Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 You need it in your life. Try and fit in a sentence without anyone noticing. Or shout MINGERS at Prima Donna and see what they do. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Thanks for posting the extract. To be honest it hasn't changed my feelings. During the Pop Disaster tour Tre took a fish and deliberately put it with another fish so they'd fight, then once the fish was badly injured he just left it in a bowl like that. Then he took it out of the bowl and (instead of putting it out of it's misery or helping it) pretended to give it mouth to mouth before putting it back in the bowl again and leaving it to suffer. So... That Tré eating the octopus story wasn't half as bad as I was expecting it to be. Sounds to me like the Octopus got the better of Tré. Except Tre caused the octopus a huge amount of completely unnecessary pain and distress before killing it. Whereas the octopus desperately tried to defend itself and caused Tre a bit of minor annoyance for a moment. I find it quite sickening that anyone wouldn't consider these actions to be inhumane and cruel. If I see a story in the paper about yobs abusing an animal for fun I judge them for their actions thanks very much. This is no different. It's not nice when someone you're a fan of does something reprehensible, so it's easier to make excuses for their actions or just try to make a joke out of it than it is to face up to the truth. Whatever, I look forward to reading the rest of the magazine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan86 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Except Tre caused the octopus a huge amount of completely unnecessary pain and distress before killing it. Whereas the octopus desperately tried to defend itself and caused Tre a bit of minor annoyance for a moment. I find it quite sickening that anyone wouldn't consider these actions to be inhumane and cruel. If I see a story in the paper about yobs abusing an animal for fun I judge them for their actions thanks very much. This is no different. It's not nice when someone you're a fan of does something reprehensible, so it's easier to make excuses for their actions or just try to make a joke out of it than it is to face up to the truth. Well Tré didnt kill the Octopus, and im not trying to argue the point that animal cruelty is ok, because its not. But eating live octopus is a seen as a delicacy in that part of the world. Its completely different to "yobs" torturing an animal for fun. Tre tried something which is accepted in the country where he was and by the sounds of it he failed miserably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daughter.of.Rage.and.Love Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Well Tré didnt kill the Octopus, and im not trying to argue the point that animal cruelty is ok, because its not. But eating live octopus is a seen as a delicacy in that part of the world. Its completely different to "yobs" torturing an animal for fun. Tre tried something which is accepted in the country where he was and by the sounds of it he failed miserably. I think anyone with common sense can realize that what Tre did is not the usual way to go about eating live animals as a delicacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzard Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 ok...buying this with my first pay check!!!! can't wait until next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDM Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 I think what's she's saying is that when people eat these octopus live as food, there is a protocol of some sort, as opposed to the actions of Tre trying to eat it. And while he may not have killed it himself (and luckily it got in a bit of fuck you to Tre before it died), it was killed due to his actions. As to the fighting fish, it's not the first time that people have felt awful about the fish's death. Combined with the two incidents, I am sure they would make people feel a little weirded out by Tre. should I put the first part like in spoilers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan86 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I think anyone with common sense can realize that what Tre did is not the usual way to go about eating live animals as a delicacy. True he could have eaten it in the more accepted way, but I still think this is been blown up into something bigger than it actually is. I dont see it as the samething as someone who tortures animals for fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzard Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Tre is a public offender #1. Didn't Billie say in behind the music that Tre offended Men, woman, animals ect. So really it's not very shocking to me...I don't really agree with it but I'm also not that surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Maybe my ignorance is that I don't know the proper way to eat a live octopus....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDM Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 Maybe my ignorance is that I don't know the proper way to eat a live octopus....... Complete with videos! Eating Live Baby Octopus in Korea I think maybe you are aiming your comment at me. I am not taking a for or against position about the octopus thing because I know that people do this. I'm just trying to suggest that there may be a reason why people are uncomfortable with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Complete with videos! Eating Live Baby Octopus in Korea I think maybe you are aiming your comment at me. I am not taking a for or against position about the octopus thing because I know that people do this. I'm just trying to suggest that there may be a reason why people are uncomfortable with it. I actually had googled it before my earlier comments just to make sure it really was a common thing - couldn't get myself to watch video. As I said before, I completely understand why some people can be bothered by this. Just as some people would be bothered by someone killing a rabbit to eat, or any other animal. and I understand the difference here, but it's simply just not the type of thing that really bothers me, or at least not to the point that it changes my view about someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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