Abbey. Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 So we are not getting scans because of copyright? Sorry Andres but I don't understand that reasoning when all the other magazines are scanned. The only difference is that other writers don't usually hurl 'uneducated' personal insults to fans. It would be good then if a download was for sale with the money going to charity rather than into the pocket of a man who bad mouths Green Day fans. I don't know what gigs he has been at but I see tons of guys, (a lot with kids but somehow they are not classed as 'lost' or 'eerie') at concerts. I wanted to read the interesting parts about Green Day and I am really pissed off as I refuse to pay for this on principle. I feel he has to be taught a lesson. I don't expect someone to download 90 pages of rambling, Just quotes about the band would be good. this is just a warning, the retard police have been called. buy the damn zine from GDA and stfu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I don't suggest anyone order it through GDA unless they're willing to wait until 2012 to read it, and by that time the world will have ended anyways. Damn the apocalypse. Just so you know, we will be using a new distribution process and personnel. I expect it will go very smoothly and quickly once we receive the zines (which are on their way now). Ouch. I was waiting for a comment like that. FYI, i'm not doing the distribution on my own, which is what I've done in the past. This time it will be handled by J'net with more people helping her. We'll make sure everyone's orders get out quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDM Posted February 11, 2011 Author Share Posted February 11, 2011 I wanted to read the interesting parts about Green Day and I am really pissed off as I refuse to pay for this on principle. I feel he has to be taught a lesson. I don't expect someone to download 90 pages of rambling, Just quotes about the band would be good. I'm not going to harsh on you like others because a friend of mine who I respect greatly, when I talked to him about it, suggested the same thing. However, it is a relatively small part of the story, and while it's harsh in its reading, overall, the material is well worth it. Like I wrote on my blog, he has the right to his opinion, as do you, and he's a salty writer, so ultimately, just take it with a grain of salt and read it. so I don't see why anyone has a problem with getting it from LastGasp.com Plus, who doesn't love Pinhead Gunpowder!? Aaron Cometbus drums for em The issue with LastGasp was the overseas rates. They charge $30 to Europe, $40 to Australia, hence, people did'nt want to pay that price for a book that costs $4.24 with tax in New York City. And yes, we know he drums for PHGP. There were some issues with him and female fans when people saw them play last year at Gilman. So, there were still some feelings of frustration from that issue, combined with some of his writings in this volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastard of 1967 Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Just so you know, we will be using a new distribution process and personnel. SNEAK PREVIEW!! Go ahead, say it, I'm a dork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J'net Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 SNEAK PREVIEW!! farm3.static.flickr.com/2708/4182313921_c9e6bb33ce.jpg Go ahead, say it, I'm a dork. You've been spying on us!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21Heart_Grenades Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Ahhh!!! This looks sooooo awesome! Wish I could get it, but 1. I'm completely broke right now and 2. My 'rents would never let me get it if I asked. oh well. (Scrabble just got way cooler. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Billiejoezee- Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 I have a question, is this a good read or not? I've read that people are bothered about stuff but i'm confused and i don't know what it's about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 I have a question, is this a good read or not? I've read that people are bothered about stuff but i'm confused and i don't know what it's about. A lot of people seem to really like it. The part people are bothered about is relatively small. Here's a bit of a write up from larry livermore that describes what it's about, without giving many details away. http://larrylivermore.com/?p=2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Billiejoezee- Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 A lot of people seem to really like it. The part people are bothered about is relatively small. Here's a bit of a write up from larry livermore that describes what it's about, without giving many details away. http://larrylivermore.com/?p=2018 I just read it. hmmm.... well, I think I'll buy it and read it myself and see what I think of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOMERTEN Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 this is just a warning, the retard police have been called. buy the damn zine from GDA and stfu. Lat me know how it goes and if they charged you. I hope you get released ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOMERTEN Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 I'm not going to harsh on you like others because a friend of mine who I respect greatly, when I talked to him about it, suggested the same thing. However, it is a relatively small part of the story, and while it's harsh in its reading, overall, the material is well worth it. Like I wrote on my blog, he has the right to his opinion, as do you, and he's a salty writer, so ultimately, just take it with a grain of salt and read it. Thanks hon. I really like your way of thinking. Do you have a link to your blog? I'd like to read it. Your friend can see what I am trying to say. I do appreciate Cometbus is entitled to his opinion and I don't take it personally. He was making judgements that were wrong and it looks like those same Green Day fans are now going to make him a lot of money, but that is their choice. I wasn't attacking anyone personally (unlike some childish morons that start name calling), but just trying to make people think about things before they buy. Some people who post here state they are only into the music and have no interest in the band personally (and berate people who do). However they are now falling over themselves to buy this, a personal insight. I think some people get angry more at themselves for being a hypocrite and they start to get abusive. One of the posters here has her nose so far up Cometbus's arse she is either him in disguise or his mommy. There are also some people who have switched opinions when bullied. I have had personal messages in the past from people who say they agree with me but are too afraid to post their opinion because the bully brigade get too nasty, so the discussions often look more one-sided than they actually are. Shame really. maybe that is why some people have thousands of posts and others hardly any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abbey. Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Lat me know how it goes and if they charged you. I hope you get released ok. FOR THE MOTHERFUCKING WIN!!!!!!!!! Yes, I have been convicted by the retard police, Ive been in their care for some time now. Luckily I am let out for the occassional Green Day event. it looks like those same Green Day fans are now going to make him a lot of money There cant be any way that Aaron makes much $$ off his zine. One of the posters here has her nose so far up Cometbus's arse she is either him in disguise or his mommy. There are also some people who have switched opinions when bullied. Personally, I have tried many times to crawl up his ass, unfortunately its so damn small. I would much prefer however to crawl in between his ears to hear what he is thinking. All in all, I had some really harsh words about COMETBUS #54 and my opinions have softened on it. The absolute shock and horror of seeing those two paragraphs by a writer I am overly obssessed with and regularly superfan over sent me over the edge. I still think it will be difficult for 99.999% of the Green Day fans/readers to understand his perspective on what he is TRULY trying to express in that section of #54, but he is an intelligent man and understands that. Also, I think people SHOULD be falling over themselves to buy this. You will NEVER EVER EVER read more of an insiders view of the personal dynamics of Green Day. That is, untill Billie Joe puts pen to paper. Are you listening Billie?? All kidding aside I invite you to buy it and read it and form an opinion for yourself with an understanding of his unique perspective on life, come back and share it here. Abbey There are also some people who have switched opinions. I am the first to admit that while my feathers are still ruffled by what he wrote, I am no longer ANGRY over it. I have switched my opinion based on some deeper thought and analysis. I was wrong wrong wrong in my interpertation of that section and what Aaron is trying to highlight. While I do not agree with the words he chose to attempt to get his point across I see what he means. Its ok to change opinions. I do all the time. Espcially in this case when I sit back and really think about Aaron and his DEEEP DEEEEP beliefs about the world around him. Ab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzard Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Did he says things about Green Day fans in general or just a certain group of Green Day fans...becasue from what I understand it was only about a certain group...at least that;s the way Larry Livermore made it sound....and in that case why would you care if you're not apart of that group of people? Anyways...so is it a good read than? Will it only be available online? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDM Posted February 12, 2011 Author Share Posted February 12, 2011 Did he says things about Green Day fans in general or just a certain group of Green Day fans...becasue from what I understand it was only about a certain group...at least that;s the way Larry Livermore made it sound....and in that case why would you care if you're not apart of that group of people? Anyways...so is it a good read than? Will it only be available online? I have to say, when I read responses like this (and the way Larry put his query), I get flummoxed. There are people who travel around to the shows a lot, but how Aaron characterized them just isn't true and it's hurtful. I don't understand how people don't understand that... whether they are a part of that group or not. When I wrote about this, I specially mentioned that and another part of the work that talks unkindly about fans, too. You can read my blog post here and maybe can then understand why some people would be upset by the characterization... which is what it was... and a highly inaccurate portrayal of people, some of whom from the GDC you may know. And yes, he did say at least one other thing about Green Day fans in general, too, that was a bit off the wall. To me. Other than that, as many have stated, it's a great read, and yes, you can find it at some independent bookstores if you live near them and if they carry zines. I really hope that this great conversation we have all been having doesn't turn into bashing, but continues to be the great discussion it should be. That would be so disappointing it became that, I can't even tell you how disappointing that would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzard Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 I have to say, when I read responses like this (and the way Larry put his query), I get flummoxed. There are people who travel around to the shows a lot, but how Aaron characterized them just isn't true and it's hurtful. I don't understand how people don't understand that... whether they are a part of that group or not. When I wrote about this, I specially mentioned that and another part of the work that talks unkindly about fans, too. You can read my blog post here and maybe can then understand why some people would be upset by the characterization... which is what it was... and a highly inaccurate portrayal of people, some of whom from the GDC you may know. And yes, he did say at least one other thing about Green Day fans in general, too, that was a bit off the wall. To me. Other than that, as many have stated, it's a great read, and yes, you can find it at some independent bookstores if you live near them and if they carry zines. I really hope that this great conversation we have all been having doesn't turn into bashing, but continues to be the great discussion it should be. That would be so disappointing it became that, I can't even tell you how disappointing that would be. Only I don;t know what he said sooo.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirnt286 Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 I got this zine. I read it. I loved it. I loved the parts about Green Day. I loved the parts about being in new places. He really captured the band, crew, atmosphere really well. Very personal. And to be honest, his take on the "fans" was only directed towards the swarms of people who showed up in mobs at the airport or in random places. Not to say they aren't "real" fans, but he really was only unkind to this instance of fandom. Not the people at the shows, or anything else. I think you guys are blowing this way out of proportion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nele Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Sooooo, I just ordered it for $10, which is pretty cheap with the international shipping and all. Can't wait to read it, it sounds pretty interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarina. Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Sooooo, I just ordered it for $10, which is pretty cheap with the international shipping and all. Can't wait to read it, it sounds pretty interesting. Yeah Nele, that's great! Now the question.. from where did you get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nele Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Yeah Nele, that's great! Now the question.. from where did you get it? From here: http://microcosmpublishing.com/catalog/zines/3501/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarina. Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 From here: http://microcosmpublishing.com/catalog/zines/3501/ Thanks a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bastard_0f1969 Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 I really want one, i dont live in new York and i cant really order online but still will try to get one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
November's Storms Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Regardless of how interesting and well written the whole zine is, I can't wait to get this purely to have a reminder of this fantastic time in GDC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daughter.of.Rage.and.Love Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 I'm being all paranoid it'll sell out before I can order it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
November's Storms Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 I wonder what the typical sale rate for one of AC's zines are, and how this one will differ. That should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Livermore Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 I wonder what the typical sale rate for one of AC's zines are, and how this one will differ. That should be interesting. Around 10,000. This one will almost certainly sell a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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